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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 22:22:38 GMT
Good evening all, A friend of mine was on the Jubilee line this evening, he noticed that on some trains the whole seat design had been changed and fitted with the new barman moquette as seen on the 1992ts refresh. Also lately I have noticed the door indicator light bulbs have been replaced with LED's and the cabfronts seem to have recieved a clean recently on some units. Update: Some of the units with the interior treatment: 96002, 96038 and 96115. Apparently there are more but these are the only ones my friend wrote down.   |
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Post by vic09 on May 1, 2012 6:39:06 GMT
Wow!!! But how many trains are they actully fitting with this moquette!! If they fit it too anymore then it will actully start to look quite generic  but brilliant pics thank you!!! Are they still springy??? Or a they hard like the 378s?? |
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Post by DWS on May 1, 2012 7:03:51 GMT
The springy seats are being removed due to the problems with the springs poking through the moquette.
It will take some time to do all the fleet of 63 trains, as only 1 train is available to be worked on each day, (Monday to Friday).
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Post by Alight on May 1, 2012 10:24:24 GMT
Whoa, I certainly didn't expect to see that! Well, to be honest while they will never beat the original 1996 stock moquette, they are still a darn lot better than the current 'Tubelines' blue one. Speaking of the original, let's hope complete 1996 MkIIs are excluded from this programme!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 13:38:09 GMT
That would be good, I like the novelty of still having the old moquette on the mark IIs, if not then I hope they will start selling it at the LTM shop. Also glad they aren't changing the seat design as I find the 1995/6 stock seats are a lot comfortable than other stock.
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Post by allan60 on May 1, 2012 14:58:02 GMT
I saw that aswell when I flew passed one while on the met but didn't believe me eyes.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 15:26:04 GMT
The only time I have noticed the springs digging into your rear was on the 96ts, glad they are fixing it! But lets hope the perfectly find springy seats on 73ts and 95ts are not touched!
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Post by vic09 on May 1, 2012 15:29:22 GMT
Oh thats a shame about the springyness of these seats does anyone know if the 95 stock will have this too? Because the seats on them are in far better condition than the 96 stock. The 1973 stock is also having new seats, but the LTM are running a competition for a new moquette  that will be interesting. |
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Post by allan60 on May 1, 2012 15:43:44 GMT
Oh thats a shame about the springyness of these seats does anyone know if the 95 stock will have this too? Because the seats on them are in far better condition than the 96 stock. The 1973 stock is also having new seats, but the LTM are running a competition for a new moquette that will be interesting. Submit the metropolitan line motuette  |
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Post by kabsonline on May 1, 2012 16:06:54 GMT
Disappointed. You beat me to it by 24 hours! Saw 26002 earlier today and have been remembering the number all day to put it on here lol! Looks much better than what it does on the 1992 Stock |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 17:07:22 GMT
Im just glad the 96ts are getting some attention, they are in a horrendous conidition
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 18:59:19 GMT
I wouldn't say horrendous, the 1992 stock pre-refresh was horrendous! But there are some issues like minor exterior paint work and interior damage from vandalism on both the 1995/6 stock that are mounting up and gradually looking making them look shabby.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 19:17:03 GMT
Personally I would say the 96ts are looking worse. The roundels are cracking, the cab roof domes are cracked and taped up on most, various stickers are wearing off, the interiors are looking shabby. The 95ts however is still excellent
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Post by Ben on May 1, 2012 20:46:53 GMT
The cushions still look relatively deep in the pic at the top. Its suprising how the springs are poking through the moquette; how comes this isn't such a pressing (or indeed noticeable)problem on other stocks?
Or is it just another excuse to use and make cheap tacky seats?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 20:57:16 GMT
Poor maintenence of 96ts maybe?
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Post by DWS on May 2, 2012 8:04:06 GMT
Personally I would say the 96ts are looking worse. The roundels are cracking, the cab roof domes are cracked and taped up on most, various stickers are wearing off, the interiors are looking shabby. The 95ts however is still excellent All of the above are being looked at by Tube Lines, and a programe to address these items will be done in a mid life refit. |
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Post by su31 on May 2, 2012 12:17:21 GMT
Oh thats a shame about the springyness of these seats does anyone know if the 95 stock will have this too? Because the seats on them are in far better condition than the 96 stock. The 1973 stock is also having new seats, but the LTM are running a competition for a new moquette that will be interesting. I wonder why... the Barman moquette is supposed to be 'industry standard' for all LU lines... |
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Post by jardine01 on May 2, 2012 13:37:29 GMT
The new seats look nice but the 1996 stock does not really suit them that well.They do however look better on the 1992 stock.
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Post by causton on May 2, 2012 21:54:06 GMT
I quite like this moquette - interesting now there are 3 versions of moquette available! Hope they don't get rid of the ones with the old moquette too soon (never got a train with the old moquette on yet - rushed to jump on one at Wembley Park but alas it was going to the siding rather than to Stanmore ) |
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Post by d7666 on May 2, 2012 21:57:08 GMT
I've noticed a couple of sets recently with additional anti-access devices between cars.
Is this new and part of the refresh ? Or something else but equally new ?
The devices are a series of black triangular wedges in two external vertical rows one each side of each communicating door, but staggered vertically with respect to the adjacent car so they would sort of interlock if moved very close.
I guess their function is to stop persons falling from between cars, rather than the inter car barrier blocks.
Despite using the Jubilee about 3-5 times each week I first noticed these only late last week so it must be something fairly recent.
Apologies if this has appeared in a different thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 22:44:17 GMT
I noticed them today was about to make a post here infact! Maybe this will mean that when the whole fleet gets those barriers fitted, just like the Bakerloo they can close all doors and head off into the siding without messing around on the platform
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Post by d7666 on May 2, 2012 23:30:07 GMT
I noticed them today was about to make a post here Thanks at least confirms I'm not seeing things and have noticed something new. -- Nick |
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Post by kabsonline on May 3, 2012 12:04:06 GMT
There are a couple of 96 stock units out there that have a mixture of moquettes. I've noticed a couple in the past where the normal blue moquette has obviously been ripped or damaged and been replaced by the old moquette on a couple of seats |
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Post by metman on May 3, 2012 18:38:09 GMT
I noticed that the tape has spread to the 96 stock! Oh dear...
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Post by kabsonline on May 3, 2012 19:44:05 GMT
Oh no! The dreaded tape! Its disappearing from the 92s and appearing on the 96s |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 20:43:59 GMT
These new seats may as well be wooden benches to perch on. Rock hard - I had the *pleasure* of sitting on one yesterday on the JLE. Not too bad there as the track is pretty good, but I wouldn't like to be sitting on it at speed on the rough bouncy track north of Finchley. Why do the 96's keep having springs popping through - is the seat cushion that different to other stocks?
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Post by jardine01 on May 4, 2012 18:13:19 GMT
Off duty driver then? If I were the driver I would not want to be stuck in the carriage I would want to be in the Cab |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2012 13:13:16 GMT
These new seats may as well be wooden benches to perch on. Rock hard - I had the *pleasure* of sitting on one yesterday on the JLE. Not too bad there as the track is pretty good, but I wouldn't like to be sitting on it at speed on the rough bouncy track north of Finchley. Why do the 96's keep having springs popping through - is the seat cushion that different to other stocks? Something is definitely wrong. Proper sprung seats being made for the 1967 stock at 10 mins and 10 seconds. Those springs never popped through! |
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Post by jardine01 on May 5, 2012 15:54:15 GMT
Proper building methods back in the 60's! Things were made to last hence why the 1967 stock and A stock lasted for so long!
Today everything or most things anyway are built on the cheap with hardly any quality control methods things don't last long these days!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2012 22:44:00 GMT
Half of that stuff in the manufacture of the 67ts in that video, if it were nowadays would be adhesives galore.
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but brilliant pics thank you!!! Are they still springy??? Or a they hard like the 378s?? 
that will be interesting.
