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Post by kabsonline on Mar 3, 2012 20:23:57 GMT
Hello I think I read in previous threads that some C Stocks did work on the Met. I have also seen a picture of one at Harrow on the Hill. I was just wondering: 1) Why? 2) When? 3) Any Pictures? 4) Did any make it to Amersham or Chesham? Thanks for your help in advance! kabsonline
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 20:32:49 GMT
Hello I think I read in previous threads that some C Stocks did work on the Met. I have also seen a picture of one at Harrow on the Hill. I was just wondering: 1) Why? 2) When? 3) Any Pictures? 4) Did any make it to Amersham or Chesham? Thanks for your help in advance! kabsonline 1) Shortage of Stock?
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Post by 1018509 on Mar 3, 2012 20:39:33 GMT
2) 1970's 3) ? 4) Uxbridge, Watford certainly - Amersham, Chesham - don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 20:42:51 GMT
I'm pretty sure I remember reading on this forum that (maybe planned but never happened) that a C stock once ran from Upton Park W/B to Baker St, onto the met main line and up to Wembley Park for a football special. Could anyone clear that up too?
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Post by redsetter on Mar 4, 2012 0:38:51 GMT
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Post by causton on Mar 4, 2012 0:40:49 GMT
Crikey, Baker Street doesn't look half as nice as it does today! Then again, that C stock...!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 9:32:06 GMT
There were football specials from time to time when there were guards. These ran either to Wembley Park and/or to Harrow.
Then there were the 'diversions' from the Circle or H&C (although the latter would require a Baker Street crew as H&C crews didn't know the Met main), often during the guards shortage of the 1970s. They worked to Uxbridge, Amersham and Watford - nothing 'scheduled' as such, just 'as and when'.
Certainly as a Controller at that time, I often 'pinched' a Circle to go out on the Met main to fill, say, a 40-min gap to Uxbridge and the like.
Zooming off topic, I also organised the first 1972 MkII to Watford Junction the very afternoon the 'ok' was given for them to run there!!
Happy days. There was no such thing as "can't" then - we just got on with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 10:06:14 GMT
Early 90’s there used to be timetabled late evening moves from the Circle Line to Wembley Park (and before that to Harrow on the Hill). The last Circle used to be described as a Circle to Tower Hill then Wembley Park at Aldgate. This was either the last train or the penultimate last train to Wembley Park.
Apparently at that time Neasden carried out servicing on C stock, hence the reason for the timetabled moves. There was also a counter move in the morning, returning the train in service. Travelling on a C stock on the Met fast lines was something akin to a fairground ride. You got thrown all over the place. Nonetheless it was sufficiently special for me to go out of my way to sample the trip a few times!
I also recall travelling on one late at night back to Harrow. It might have been due to rail replacement work or something similar. Apparently Harrow was the original late night destination, with the train returning out of service to Neasden. However by the time I had started to rely upon the last trains, the scheduled Harrows had ceased.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 11:07:53 GMT
On Sunday mornings and Sunday late evenings some of the C Stock workings north of Baker Street called at all (Bakerloo/Jubilee) stations.
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Post by Oracle on Mar 4, 2012 11:12:41 GMT
Also wasn't it the case that the Met started earlier/finished later than the Bakerloo on Sundays?
We had a clip in a film shown one LURS evening of a C Stock at Finchley Road, having traversed the crossover that was then just south of the Bakerloo platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 11:52:43 GMT
Yep, you're right, but I think it was a case of the (then) Bakerloo starting later rather than the Met starting earlier - oh well, swings and roundabouts
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 14:13:16 GMT
I'm pretty sure I remember reading on this forum that (maybe planned but never happened) that a C stock once ran from Upton Park W/B to Baker St, onto the met main line and up to Wembley Park for a football special. Could anyone clear that up too? I most certainly travelled upon one, as a minor, that came from Wembley Park sidings (sheds) and ran passenger to Barking. (Along with threats to "tip it out" at Moorgate as some unruly football supporters were holding doors open.) There were several C stocks in Wembley Park sheds on that occasion so I assume more than one such train did that run on that day.
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Post by kabsonline on Mar 4, 2012 14:54:48 GMT
I'm sure I read somewhere (maybe on here- but not sure if it was accurate) that a C Stock run the Chesham shuttle one day for some reason of other?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 15:08:24 GMT
I'm sure I read somewhere (maybe on here- but not sure if it was accurate) that a C Stock run the Chesham shuttle one day for some reason of other? Yes it did indeed, the Yellow pages C-stock did the Shuttle on one of the Steam on the Mets and another one did it as well
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Post by metman on Mar 4, 2012 15:20:40 GMT
Was the C stock operated in 4 car formation? Also the Cravens Heritage 1960 set ran it one year too!
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Post by kabsonline on Mar 4, 2012 15:40:19 GMT
Did it run the shuttle as a speical sort of service of was it purely because of a shortage of A Stocks?
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Post by kabsonline on Mar 4, 2012 15:45:48 GMT
Also found this which shows a C Stock and D Stock at Rickmansworth Sidings: www.cravensheritagetrains.co.uk/misc.htmThese pictures were taken during a Steam on the Met event. Forgetting my last post does this mean that the C Stock was running a journey as a special for the day or was it due to a shortage of the A Stocks?
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Post by Oracle on Mar 4, 2012 16:29:06 GMT
D Stock has also run to Chesham of course.
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Post by kabsonline on Mar 4, 2012 17:32:13 GMT
Before or after refurb or both?
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Post by andypurk on Mar 4, 2012 17:43:05 GMT
Did it run the shuttle as a speical sort of service of was it purely because of a shortage of A Stocks? The operation on the Chesham Shuttle was, as mentioned, part of the Steam on the Met event. My records show a four car train formed of units 5537 and 5593 on 17th May 1998.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 17:51:04 GMT
I remember going to Genesis and a David Bowie concerts at Wembley in the late 1980's and there was C stock running extra service to London om both occasions
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Post by 21146 on Mar 4, 2012 18:18:34 GMT
There was a plan to run a C Stock from Upminster to Wembley Park in the late-70s/early-80s when West Ham were in the FA Cup Final (IIRC). Scuppered by the unions who wouldn't allow a 'Met' train to run over District Line tracks. Not one of their better moments I think. There was a poster produced advertising this train which had a drawing of a C Stock complete with football special 'headboard', though I don't believe one would have been carried in reality.
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Post by 21146 on Mar 4, 2012 18:23:43 GMT
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Post by kabsonline on Mar 4, 2012 19:26:22 GMT
I want to go on one on the Met although that will probably never happen again
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Post by ruislip on Mar 4, 2012 21:40:40 GMT
When was the last time they operated on the Met?
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Post by rsdworker on Mar 4, 2012 21:52:51 GMT
When was the last time they operated on the Met? i think around 1980's to late 90's
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 4, 2012 22:20:54 GMT
The C Stock Blind I bought in 2010 (removed prior to the Spiral of Doom commencing) includes Neasden and Wembley Pack as destinations, up at the top. Where to now? by rincewindthefailedwizard, on Flickr
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 22:33:02 GMT
I remember last year someone on here mentioned having to take a C Stock up the Metropolitan Line and stopping in random places on the platforms (because there aren't any 6 car stopping signs up the Metropolitan Line and C Stocks are shorter than A Stocks).
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Post by metman on Mar 4, 2012 22:38:01 GMT
I'm sure a fairwell tour for the C stock will involved a run up the Met. It would be nice to run an 8 car C stock train.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2012 22:38:33 GMT
22/10/84 - Five C stock trains to stable overnight at Neasden instead of nine. No C stock passenger workings north of Baker Street – empty or staff only.
29/9/86 - OPO introduced on Metropolitan main line. Some C stock passenger workings reintroduced north of Baker Street.
2/6/96 - No Circle trains to stable overnight at Neasden with changes to early-morning and late-night A stock workings in consequence.
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