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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 15, 2006 14:44:05 GMT
What a shame West Ruislip has an island platform! It would have been awful [if the next train used another platform] for her to drag the pushchair all over the station again!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2006 17:29:24 GMT
I asked myself, was there really any need for that outburst? All i did was offer my assistance and look what happens.
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Post by Tubeboy on Aug 15, 2006 17:40:52 GMT
She might have had awful news 5 minutes beforehand or be depressed or something else. No defence though for the way she treated you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2006 20:08:09 GMT
I never knew anyone used West Ruislip after the peak! Bar a few Americans from next door that place was always dead as a door nail, or perhaps they were avoiding me Still no excuse to be rude - got what she deserved. Only hope is the next train in was going off to the depot and her next eastbound was turned early at Northolt.
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Post by Oracle on Aug 15, 2006 22:35:28 GMT
Look... for those guys and gals that let my kids through the gates when the stupid SWT-issued Travelcards don't work THANKS! Yes, my younger son has tried to swipe his ticket. Yes. we hva ehad problems every darned time we come up to Town. And yes, we have always been helped and said thank you to the staff. We have always been offered "Come through here" or words to that effect and with no ill manner, grumpiness, or resignation shown. Teaches my kids that being polite works wonders in today's world!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2006 10:23:53 GMT
Ah, but then theres the other side of the coin. At West Ruislip once helped a woman trying to bring a pushchair down the stairs, she had two kids in it! Walked up and asked her if she'd like any help and got "No I ----- don't need your ------ help, so ---- off" Okay, fine no probs. Wanders back down. Only train in station, next one a few minutes away. Looks at platform cctv display, can see her pushing the chair up the platform, stops by the third car, stick clears, so I shut the doors, just as she lifts the chair up. "You are the weakest link, good bye", say me to the monitor. Jabs the ATO buttons and off we go! Bit of a thread revival I know, but not having much access to a pc these days means I've just read this thread........that story is hilarious!! You are the weakest link...goodbye!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 0:52:47 GMT
I've just come across a Leafet, Get The Most Out Of Your Oyster..
Page 16, a very interesting statement; 'Use the card ONLY for it's intended purpose.' So, just what else can you use an Oystercard for???
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Post by Chris M on Dec 15, 2006 2:07:39 GMT
just about anything you can use any credit card-size object for - bookmark, lock picking (apparently), car windscreen ice scraper, stuff to put on your cat, advertising board on a model railway, discount entry into certain London attractions, playing card... the list is endless
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2006 2:20:30 GMT
alright, maybe I shouldnae have asked! ;D
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Post by Colin on Dec 15, 2006 3:56:28 GMT
You should know by now Artery ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2006 19:40:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2006 21:56:03 GMT
Splendid idea, Watson! So, instead of being able to buy a pint of milk, you can now by a loaf of bread, some cereals and a pint of milk...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 17:36:28 GMT
And ONLY be charged an APR of 19.9% variable.
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Post by compsci on Dec 17, 2006 20:00:31 GMT
At least the cap for purchases without authentication is only £10. Otherwise you could do some huge frauds using a man in the middle attack. I think I explained the details before.
I really don't see the point of having two effectively separate cards in one piece of plastic. The New York version has the fares coming directly out of the credit card account.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 20:34:17 GMT
So, let us say you have Pre-pay only on this Barclay-Ster/Orclay Card... A value of £10 say... Let me guess, you would be charged for the privilage of having PP on the card, no doubt they will deduct a Transaction Fee...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 21:09:41 GMT
why not just set up auto-top up from your credit card when it falls below £10.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 21:21:25 GMT
Most customers probably do that...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 21:26:32 GMT
so what's the problem with having the separate accounts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 21:33:16 GMT
I'm just saying that Barclays will probably make a charge for cardholders to use the Prepay part of the card...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 21:38:24 GMT
probably as installing the equipment will cost money. I will be good to pay for a parking meter or pay for a paper or sandwich with an oyster card. The only problem is that if you loose your oyster you loose your bank card and if it is stolen they can make lots of £9.99 purchases.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 21:52:07 GMT
Exactly one of the reasons [misuse] why I would not have a BarclOyster!
There was an idea to be able to buy groceries with yer Osyter, that plan has been cancelled... wether or not it will be re-ignited, is anyone's guess...
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Post by compsci on Dec 17, 2006 23:27:46 GMT
If you read the small print you will discover that there is no connection between the oyster and barclaycard parts of the card. The only way to top up will be one of the methods available to everybody else. I can't see the masses running to their door for the sake of one less piece of plastic. My oyster lives in my sleeve pocket. My wallet wouldn't fit there, nor would I want it to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 23:30:30 GMT
but you can pay for convenience things with very little effort, just placing a card on the reader, no chip and pin and no cash. Very easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2007 22:34:28 GMT
Apologies for the slight bump of this thread, but just thought I'd keep some of those who may not already know, updated...
Okay, London National Rail now has a unified zonal fares system... All the TOC's agreed to this as a pre-condition of thr future roll out of Oyster PP on National rail Services... As we know, Silverlink will jettision the North London Line to TfL in November, which will make Oyster PP available...
Now, several TOC's have said it's not a business case for Oyster PP to be used on their services... We already know that it can be used on a rather limited number of routes... This was set to change..
Theres £20 MILLION available to help set up the system at National Rail stations, but half of them are not interested, and can't see it's merits... This means that some passengers will be forced to buy more expensive ODTC's...
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Post by Tubeboy on Jan 11, 2007 22:36:58 GMT
I think the TOC's main concern [and it is justified] is that if gates are put in across London, they will have to be staffed. They wont pay for gates to be manned, simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2007 22:50:18 GMT
Yes, I see that Equipment will cost money to be maintained.. So... Nine TOC's work into London... 20million sovs in a pot... just over 2 mill each... Work out how many stations, on average, each TOC has, then factor in maintenace of readers/ staff provision... My guess it that that "mill won't last very long at all... Also... most stations are unstaffed either permanently or after the AM peak... now, gates on a platform without shelter over them, probably won't last long either... I see where the TOC's are coming from, so maybe that cookie jar needs to be filled up a bit more... They have until 31st Jan to decide...
My bet is they will be forced to accept it...
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Post by Chris M on Jan 11, 2007 22:54:25 GMT
Why do they need gates? Why not the walk-past readers they have at places like Finsbury Park and Ealing Broadway?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2007 22:57:50 GMT
Which thread discussed the 2 hour limit on tube journeys? I went through Journey Planner and found that Chigwell - Chesham on a Sunday afternoon takes 2hrs 2mins. Mind you, would the Oyster fare for this journey be £4.00 anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2007 23:11:10 GMT
Chigwell is now a Z4 station... Chesham being in D... You'd be charged £4 to enter, and having the system presume you not to have touched out within the 2 hour time limit, would charge you another £4... the Z123456ABCD travelcard is just under £8.
with regard to gates, I meant to say gates/readers, but anything left in the open to the elements is just asking to malfunction/be vandalised...
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Post by compsci on Jan 12, 2007 7:02:21 GMT
City Thameslink currently has an oyster reader on either side of the concourse, and until recently nothing more. There are now some eerily gate shaped plywood boxes arranged in the manner of a gateline which will probably be removed to reveal gates, but that's another matter (naturally the staff know nothing other than that there is a leaflet on the rack about them).
Ultimately it is a decision on the part of the TOC whether they wish to have gates to protect revenue, using the same reasoning as would be used if Oyster didn't exist. The one thing that may have to change is the maximum fare, which might not be enough of a deterrent if longer distances are available.
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