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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 12:20:21 GMT
One for the diary!
tfl website - 'Saturday 31 March and Sunday 1 April, no service between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Croxley/Rickmansworth. A special service will operate between Watford, Croxley, Rickmansworth and Amersham/Chesham. Replacement buses operate'
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Post by melikepie on Jan 23, 2012 12:40:14 GMT
Is this an advanced warning of an early practical joke?
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Post by metman on Jan 30, 2012 23:33:31 GMT
Saw an S stock with Fast Moorgate displayed earlier!
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Post by Ben on Jan 31, 2012 1:01:46 GMT
One good thing about the DMI, it can display FAST [anything]. Now, if only it were legible in terms of brightness, font and size...
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Post by citysig on Jan 31, 2012 10:35:01 GMT
With the current timetable, the most common way to recover lost minutes is to divert via the fast, so the now "rare" fasts will more than likely be seen more often than not ;D
Nobody spotted the Semi-Fast Baker Street to Northwood service yesterday evening then? Baker Street, Finchley Road, Harrow then all stations to Northwood.
It cannot be displayed on the DMIs, but that doesn't mean we won't run the occasional one ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 14:25:07 GMT
I saw a Fast S8-Stock to Aldgate (not stopping at Wembley Park as well) around 12pm at HOTH Pfm 5, Train ID was 424 or something like that
Also M404 5134+5121 10:27 Aldgate-Chesham worked fast from Harrow to Moor Park (no idea if it did fast between Wembley-Harrow)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2012 15:05:22 GMT
One for the diary! tfl website - 'Saturday 31 March and Sunday 1 April, no service between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Croxley/Rickmansworth. A special service will operate between Watford, Croxley, Rickmansworth and Amersham/Chesham. Replacement buses operate' Chesham/Amersham to Watford trains then!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 1, 2012 20:11:34 GMT
One for the diary! tfl website - 'Saturday 31 March and Sunday 1 April, no service between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Croxley/Rickmansworth. A special service will operate between Watford, Croxley, Rickmansworth and Amersham/Chesham. Replacement buses operate' Can someone tell whoever runs the TfL Journey Planner? Put in a Watford Met to Amersham journey for March 31st and it tells you to change at Croxley and Rickmansworth, making use of the hourly Green Line 724 (Harlow to Heathrow) bus to bridge the gap!
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Post by metman on Feb 1, 2012 21:02:29 GMT
I doubt it has been updated yet from the sounds of it.
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Post by pitdiver on Feb 2, 2012 8:00:01 GMT
One for the diary! tfl website - 'Saturday 31 March and Sunday 1 April, no service between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Croxley/Rickmansworth. A special service will operate between Watford, Croxley, Rickmansworth and Amersham/Chesham. Replacement buses operate' Chesham/Amersham to Watford trains then! Perhaps they could be run using Steam Locos. STEAM ON THE MET 2012 WOW!
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Post by graeme186 on Feb 2, 2012 22:01:47 GMT
Also M404 5134+5121 10:27 Aldgate-Chesham worked fast from Harrow to Moor Park (no idea if it did fast between Wembley-Harrow) It's all very well diverting slow NB Amersham / Chesham trains to run down the Fast Lines to make up lost time but these trains are now scheduled and advertised to stop at all stations. I would find it difficult to believe that on each occasion a slow Chesham is diverted to the Fast Lines, passengers at intermediate stations are advised of that fact and advised to travel to Harrow / Moor Park as appropriate. Also, given that ALL NB Met trains are now scheduled and advertised to stop at Wembley Park, shouldn't Wembley Park now be considered a mandatory stop in the NB direction like Finchley Road, Harrow and Moor Park?
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Post by citysig on Feb 5, 2012 20:31:06 GMT
When trains are diverted via the fast lines, information / arrangements are made for those that will "miss out."
Generally, if a train is late enough to be diverted, it means the following, same destination train, is not that far behind (or in some instances, has already served the stations concerned.)
If the diversion will cause a delay to other customers, information to "travel forward" is usually passed on. That is the good old "take the first train and change where necessary" announcement that is given out. So few people heed it's message.
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Post by metman on Feb 6, 2012 23:16:15 GMT
The service must have been totally up the wall today. A TSR in the Wembley area removed all fast trains heading south this morning and my A stock from Baker Street at 2045 was a semi-fast Ruislip! It was going to pass Wembley Pk but stopped there. There were about 8 S stock queuing between Wembley and West Harrow going south! ;D
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Post by citysig on Feb 8, 2012 22:42:46 GMT
The morning was indeed a "thinning" of the service, and rather than cause confusion to everyone, one pattern of trains was withdrawn. By doing this, staff could easily predict which trains (the minority of the service) would be taken out.
The evening was not strictly related to the TSR, but more a number of other issues which compounded to delay the service a little at a time until it slowly ground to a halt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 13:57:08 GMT
At 1013 an all stations Uxbridge train has been reformed at Baker Street to work a Chesham Super-Fast 422 5126+5169
And the same at Harrow just before 12pm, an all stations UXB-ALD was reformed to a Fast UXB-ALD 424 21039/40
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 14:43:01 GMT
At 1013 an all stations Uxbridge train has been reformed at Baker Street to work a Chesham Super-Fast 422 5126+5169 And the same at Harrow just before 12pm, an all stations UXB-ALD was reformed to a Fast UXB-ALD 424 21039/40 Whats a super fast?! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2012 14:49:03 GMT
At 1013 an all stations Uxbridge train has been reformed at Baker Street to work a Chesham Super-Fast 422 5126+5169 And the same at Harrow just before 12pm, an all stations UXB-ALD was reformed to a Fast UXB-ALD 424 21039/40 Whats a super fast?! ;D Finchley Road-Harrow on the Hill-Moor Park
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Post by njr001 on Feb 9, 2012 17:45:59 GMT
Oh for days of peak hour Amersham trains non stopping between Finchley Road Road & Moor Park. At least you could get a seat from Finchley Road travelling Northbound. I recall they would be announced at Amersham as fast city 'express' trains.
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Post by metman on Feb 9, 2012 18:08:59 GMT
Yes, the Harrow crowd had their own starters from Harrow or Uxbridge!
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Post by metman on Feb 9, 2012 18:10:19 GMT
I remember seeing a fast Watford service leave Harrow plat 1 a couple of years ago! It had to travel via Ricky mind you, but it was still fast!
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Post by citysig on Feb 9, 2012 23:53:33 GMT
At 1013 an all stations Uxbridge train has been reformed at Baker Street to work a Chesham Super-Fast 422 5126+5169 And the same at Harrow just before 12pm, an all stations UXB-ALD was reformed to a Fast UXB-ALD 424 21039/40 I don't want to put a big downer on anyone noticing these things, but this kind of thing happened before but is maybe more noticeable now. After the evening peak (as I normally work the late shift) I'm doing this sort of thing on a regular basis. I could probably list many more than the above from just the past week, and on the days I worked, nothing that significant occurred. My early-turn colleagues probably could as well. So, whilst the thread does concern fast trains, and whilst they may be more rare than they once were, they will still regularly happen when trains run late. In fact, with everything running "slow" it is more likely that something will run "fast" if running late. Running fast is now more likely than turning short - which was very regular under previous timetables. Of course, some trains will run fast AND turn short, but this will also be part of the great scheme of things to get everything running back to time. Like I said, I don't want to pour cold water on anyone's interest in these matters, and hope I don't come across as being too harsh
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2012 1:15:19 GMT
At 1013 an all stations Uxbridge train has been reformed at Baker Street to work a Chesham Super-Fast 422 5126+5169 And the same at Harrow just before 12pm, an all stations UXB-ALD was reformed to a Fast UXB-ALD 424 21039/40 I don't want to put a big downer on anyone noticing these things, but this kind of thing happened before but is maybe more noticeable now. Running fast is now more likely than turning short - which was very regular under previous timetables. That is a good idea, means everyone will get to their destination (a bit quicker ) I understand MetControl ,I just read your response (#Reply 15) on the other thread (Timetable Update) and now understand why that happens
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Post by Antje on Feb 10, 2012 8:05:03 GMT
Finchley Road-Harrow on the Hill-Moor Park Wouldn't that still count as a "fast" since the Wembley Park stop isn't usually guaranteed?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2012 17:31:36 GMT
On a personal note I would regard a "super fast" as - Finchley Road - Moor Park Finchley Road - Rayners Lane (or even Eastcote) Finchley Road - North Harrow .... like it was in the (good? - open to personal opinion!) old days. Then, they weren't "super fasts" ;D
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Post by a60 on Feb 11, 2012 17:57:43 GMT
On the subject of weekend closures. What is the ratio of A Stock to S Stock on the Uxbridge branch this weekend? Just outta interest.
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Post by a60 on Feb 11, 2012 17:59:06 GMT
On the subject of weekend closures. What is the ratio of A Stock to S Stock on the Uxbridge branch this weekend? Just outta interest.
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Post by citysig on Feb 11, 2012 20:06:17 GMT
On a personal note I would regard a "super fast" as - Finchley Road - Moor Park Finchley Road - Rayners Lane (or even Eastcote) Finchley Road - North Harrow .... like it was in the (good? - open to personal opinion!) old days. Then, they weren't "super fasts" ;D On my own personal note, I would like to run a super-fast as (at the very least) Finchley Road - Rickmansworth (stopping at Harrow if we must). However, apparently when diverting via the fast, we must still serve Moor Park - I have tried to omit the stop but have met with severe opposition. I did do one (or maybe two ) but was pulled up on it. Needs working on that one... ;D
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Post by superteacher on Feb 14, 2012 13:43:11 GMT
I remember the Finchley Road - Moor Park fasts. Quite a few years since they were removed from the timetable though. Did these often get a clear run, or were they help up? I assume they ran via platform 1 at Harrow.
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Post by metman on Feb 14, 2012 22:39:10 GMT
There are a couple of videos on youtube, one with a Chesham train strolling through Platform 1 at Harrow.
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Post by a60 on Feb 14, 2012 23:17:23 GMT
I did see an S Stock on a fast at Moor Park NB around 12:00 today
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