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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 23:39:48 GMT
@tecchy, that there is exactly why I personally think anything can last forever just keep replacing the parts, yes it may not be cost effective as parts get rarer and even get to the point of having to make new parts from scratch but its still possible.
5038 was back in service today, dont know if it has been since this thread was started
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Post by alex92ts on Jan 9, 2012 17:37:49 GMT
Managed to find the time to go up to London today to have another 'last' ride on the A-stocks. Baker Street was full of A-stocks with no S-stock in sight. They all looked a right state though! There was a group of tourists waiting on the platform, and they didn't look impressed when they saw their train pull in! It was a nice ride to Liverpool Street though - engine seemed fine. Didn't see a single S-stock passing all the way from Baker St to Liverpool St!
I agree that not so much effort should be given to the A-stocks seeing as they are being withdrawn, but I do think they should be given a little more care seeing as some will remain in service over the Olympics, and also the few months before the Olympics there will probably be an increase of tourists.
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Post by eurostarengineer on Jan 9, 2012 18:55:16 GMT
They *should* make more of an effort with the interiors but to be fair, for the work that gets done on the interiors, you'll lose work thats done on the operational aspects of the train like relays, RPA's, Doors etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong teccy but my guess is that Neasden is understaffed?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2012 23:44:25 GMT
Just look at the Routemasters in London! They were/are a fantastic, lovely vehicle that gave years of brilliant service to the capital BUT towards the end all you ever saw was the poor things on the back of a recovery truck. I don't recall ever seeing an RM on tow - plenty of more modern buses though. It was elfin safety and a premature response to the DDA which saw them off. (A few of them are still working on routes 9 and 15) Sadly, there's not a lot of data about injuries caused by falling off RM platforms, but a bus nerd friend of mine assures me that RMs were responsible for rather a lot of transport-related injuries in London! The risk was probably increased by the growth in passenger numbers, which was also a factor in the RMs' demise. The thing is, as much as I love trains and buses, they are tools to serve the needs of the travelling public. When their needs change, the tools need to as well. And having had a mother who was in a wheelchair for the last 2 years of her life, I'm grateful for the changes that the DDA has brought about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 18:30:51 GMT
I don't recall ever seeing an RM on tow - plenty of more modern buses though. It was elfin safety and a premature response to the DDA which saw them off. (A few of them are still working on routes 9 and 15) Sadly, there's not a lot of data about injuries caused by falling off RM platforms, but a bus nerd friend of mine assures me that RMs were responsible for rather a lot of transport-related injuries in London! The risk was probably increased by the growth in passenger numbers, which was also a factor in the RMs' demise. The thing is, as much as I love trains and buses, they are tools to serve the needs of the travelling public. When their needs change, the tools need to as well. And having had a mother who was in a wheelchair for the last 2 years of her life, I'm grateful for the changes that the DDA has brought about. Dont forget though, the number of injuries racked up by theyre years or service! |
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Post by superteacher on Jan 10, 2012 20:10:04 GMT
I don't recall ever seeing an RM on tow - plenty of more modern buses though. It was elfin safety and a premature response to the DDA which saw them off. (A few of them are still working on routes 9 and 15) Sadly, there's not a lot of data about injuries caused by falling off RM platforms, but a bus nerd friend of mine assures me that RMs were responsible for rather a lot of transport-related injuries in London! The risk was probably increased by the growth in passenger numbers, which was also a factor in the RMs' demise. The thing is, as much as I love trains and buses, they are tools to serve the needs of the travelling public. When their needs change, the tools need to as well. And having had a mother who was in a wheelchair for the last 2 years of her life, I'm grateful for the changes that the DDA has brought about. Personally I think that the increase in injuries over the years is more do with an increase in people's stupidity, and an unwillingness to take care of their own health and safety. The growth in passenger numbers was not a factor in their demise. In fact, even as late as 2002, TFL were buying old Routemasters back from private owneership to increase theiir numbers in London. Then the DDA came along . . . |
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