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Post by prjb on Jul 10, 2011 16:15:29 GMT
All, Just thought you might like to know that Pre-Production Train 1 carried out its first run to Hammersmith last night. Following a successful gauging and testing run on the branch it is now located at it's new stabling point (away from Neasden).
As usual, I will send photo's to one of the admins and they will post them on my behalf (still haven't figured out how to do it!).
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 10, 2011 16:17:47 GMT
Is it stabled at Hammersmith?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 16:40:58 GMT
Where is it stabled?
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Post by prjb on Jul 10, 2011 17:38:40 GMT
It is stabled at a location on the Hammersmith and City line. I don't really want to go in to too much more detail for fear of the train being visited by ' our friends' in the amateur arts community!  |
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Post by SE13 on Jul 10, 2011 18:23:24 GMT
Pictures are as follows: PP1 at Hammersmith  PP1 at Hammersmith platform 3  PP1 at Ladbrooke Grove  S7 at Hammersmith P3 ('S' Stock Pre-Production Train 1 at Hammersmith Platform 3. This is the view from inside the 'box' area where the new train arrestor is located which is formerly the train crew accommodation. This is an unusual view as this is a non passenger area.)  S7 at Wood Lane ('S' Stock Pre-Production Train 1 at Wood Lane Westbound, this is the first time an 'S' Stock has entered this platform.)  C stock meets S stock at Hammersmith  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 18:25:21 GMT
Most excellent pics! the second one looks great, framed!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 18:29:55 GMT
Ah right fair enough about the location
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Post by prjb on Jul 10, 2011 18:49:28 GMT
Thanks for posting these SE13. Apologies for the relatively poor quality, I forgot my camera last night and so had to use my iPhone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 19:29:36 GMT
What do the DMIs say? It's a bit hard to tell from the pictures...
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Post by SE13 on Jul 10, 2011 19:53:33 GMT
What do the DMIs say? It's a bit hard to tell from the pictures... Looking at the originals, I think it just says "Not in service" on both lines, but there is a number on the very top that I can't make out. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 19:58:46 GMT
All, Just thought you might like to know that Pre-Production Train 1 carried out its first run to Hammersmith last night. Following a successful gauging and testing run on the branch it is now located at it's new stabling point (away from Neasden). As usual, I will send photos to one of the admins and they will post them on my behalf (still haven't figured out how to do it!). Congrats on reaching Hammersmith! Didn't you say you had pics of the S-Stock at Edgware Road? Are there any other stations apart from Aldgate East that has the "S7" Sign on them? Looks like 545 |
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Post by SE13 on Jul 10, 2011 20:08:32 GMT
All the pictures sent have been posted, and labelled as they were sent. I've not seen an Edgware Road unless it's stuck in cyberspace somewhere  That said, the picture numbers have a few missing, so I presume they aren't for public consumption, or weren't forwarded on for any one of many reasons that I'm not privvy to (Remember, I'm not LU staff) |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 10, 2011 20:24:53 GMT
Yes - there was another picture that prjb took when the first S7 was tested to Hammersmith Edgware Road.
Edit: Correction from Hammersmith to Edgware Road. Typed Hammersmith because it was in my mind at the time!
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Post by prjb on Jul 10, 2011 20:47:27 GMT
SE13, I took loads of photo's of the same thing as iPhone's don't have the best camera and I knew some would be blurry or just no good! So where there are gaps in the numbering it is just where I have cherry picked the best ones.
The DMI says '545' and 2 lines of 'Not in Service'.
I may have some images of the first run to Edgware Road, I will check and send them to SE13 if I do have them. The images above are from the early hours of this morning (03:11 at Wood Lane) and this is the first time the train has run on the H&C beyond Edgware Road.
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Post by prjb on Jul 10, 2011 20:50:42 GMT
Are there any other stations apart from Aldgate East that has the "S7" Sign on them? Aldgate East got the 'S7' Chevrons early on because we used an experimental platform barrier system for protecting staff working on the station which allowed trains to continue running at that location. Don't qoute me but I do not think we have them in anywhere else. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 21:50:29 GMT
Nice pics. As the S7 get rolled out, will they be general C stock replacement or is one line getting them first?
Once the S7 are introduced, will those barriers on the Wood Lane platforms be taken down?
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Post by prjb on Jul 10, 2011 23:12:33 GMT
H&C/Circle first. Wood lane was designed with the 'S' Stock in mind, so once introduction begins the barriers will be removed. Although the benches behind the barriers will need a clean - I sat on one last night/this morning during testing and it was filthy!!  |
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Post by edwin on Jul 16, 2011 1:41:25 GMT
Does this train have all longitudinal seating?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 2:04:32 GMT
I believe it does.
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Post by metman on Jul 16, 2011 9:25:11 GMT
I don't know why it would. It is an S8 train reduced to 7 cars so I wouldn't imagine the seats would be changed just for testing.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 16, 2011 12:30:15 GMT
Both recent 7-car trains are S8 -1, so still retain transverse seats.
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Post by Ben on Jul 16, 2011 14:45:22 GMT
I wonder if its likely that in the fullness of time we'll end up with S8s and S7s with a mixture of transverse and longetudinal seating.
For example, say a few production S8s are delivered as S7s to speed things up on the H&C, or if the S7s on the District are at some point lengthened to S8s.
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Post by 21146 on Jul 16, 2011 14:54:42 GMT
I wonder if its likely that in the fullness of time we'll end up with S8s and S7s with a mixture of transverse and longetudinal seating. For example, say a few production S8s are delivered as S7s to speed things up on the H&C, or if the S7s on the District are at some point lengthened to S8s. The short-sighted Sub Surface Lines Upgrade programme will not allow for S8 operation on the District Line. Never mind, there will be another opportunity in around 40-50 years' time, |
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Post by andypurk on Jul 16, 2011 15:15:48 GMT
I wonder if its likely that in the fullness of time we'll end up with S8s and S7s with a mixture of transverse and longetudinal seating. For example, say a few production S8s are delivered as S7s to speed things up on the H&C, or if the S7s on the District are at some point lengthened to S8s. I think it has already been mentioned that the 'early' S7 deliveries are just S8 with the extra car stored. Once the real S7 units are delivered, the early units will be returned to S8 formation and delivered to the Met. None of the final S7 fleet will end up with transverse seats. |
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Post by londonstuff on Jul 16, 2011 16:12:04 GMT
I wonder if its likely that in the fullness of time we'll end up with S8s and S7s with a mixture of transverse and longetudinal seating. For example, say a few production S8s are delivered as S7s to speed things up on the H&C, or if the S7s on the District are at some point lengthened to S8s. The short-sighted Sub Surface Lines Upgrade programme will not allow for S8 operation on the District Line. Never mind, there will be another opportunity in around 40-50 years' time,  I never realised that. Is it just due to too many short platforms? |
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Post by metman on Jul 16, 2011 16:26:31 GMT
I thought that all 58 S8s were going to be delivered first now to the Met?
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Post by citysig on Jul 16, 2011 17:29:45 GMT
The short-sighted Sub Surface Lines Upgrade programme will not allow for S8 operation on the District Line. Never mind, there will be another opportunity in around 40-50 years' time, Much as having "go anywhere" stock would have been a bonus on paper, in reality it would have been very unlikely to see a Met (S8) diverted onto the District. It would also be a waste of money making sure S8s could serve the District, given the rarity of such an event. S7s will be fully interchangeable between lines, meaning stock can easily be utilised as required - as currently happens with the C-stocks for the Wimbledon branch. This gives more than enough scope to still classify the S-stock as "go anywhere" stock. |
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Post by Phil on Jul 16, 2011 22:02:16 GMT
This gives more than enough scope to still classify the S-stock as "go anywhere" stock. Except down the pipe at Baron's Court ;D ;D ;D. |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 17, 2011 12:52:50 GMT
The short-sighted Sub Surface Lines Upgrade programme will not allow for S8 operation on the District Line. Never mind, there will be another opportunity in around 40-50 years' time, Much as having "go anywhere" stock would have been a bonus on paper, in reality it would have been very unlikely to see a Met (S8) diverted onto the District. It would also be a waste of money making sure S8s could serve the District, given the rarity of such an event. S7s will be fully interchangeable between lines, meaning stock can easily be utilised as required - as currently happens with the C-stocks for the Wimbledon branch. This gives more than enough scope to still classify the S-stock as "go anywhere" stock. I don't want the odd Met S Stock diverted onto the District Line, I want the latter operated by S8s, not S7s. It would help compensate for the reduction in seats per car. They could run trains of this length on the DR up til 1971, why not again? More short(!)-sightedness, just as having three, or it if four, incompatable signalling systems nowadays? |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 17, 2011 12:59:17 GMT
Are the stations on the District main line long enough for S8s?
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That said, the picture numbers have a few missing, so I presume they aren't for public consumption, or weren't forwarded on for any one of many reasons that I'm not privvy to (Remember, I'm not LU staff)
