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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 9:41:31 GMT
5034+5231 was one of them. I saw this formation departing Baker Street platform 3 for Aldgate yesterday (Sunday 24/06/12) at about 18.30. A fabulous sound and one which is soon to become history. I think we can be virtually certain that this weekend was the last one of A stock operation on the Met. The consensus seems to be that all A Stock operations (apart from hot spare rungs when an S Stock fails) are finishing this Friday (29/06/12), but I haven't seen any official confirmation of this. Does anyone have any definitive info please? Best Wishes to all Green Lion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 16:13:24 GMT
Seen today mainly at Northwood
5012/5180
5062/5161
5090/5061
5094/5102
5024/5119
5116/5188
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 25, 2012 18:45:35 GMT
25/06/2012:
A stock:
S 5012 + 5181 N 717
S 5022 + 5113 N 473 (PM)
S 5034 + 5231 N 442
S 5062 + 5161 N 4xx
S 5090 + 5061 N 406
N 5116 + 5189 S 4xx
S stock:
N 21013 423
N 21023 424
S 21027 415
S 21029 403
N 21033 445
N 21043 422
S 21049 416
S 21051 413
S 21057 447
S 21065 470 (PM)
N 21067 4xx
N 21071 474 (AM), 461 (PM)
S 21073 405
S 21075 4xx
N 21077 444
N 21079 443
? 21081 4xx
N 21089 4xx
S 21095 463 (PM, arrived at North Harrow NB showing Wembley Park, announced next station as Liverpool Street)
N 21097 4xx - Display blank (Terminating at Harrow after AM peak)
N 21103 476
N 21107 443
S 21113 450
S 21115 4xx
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Post by graeme186 on Jun 25, 2012 20:43:07 GMT
Further change: 5100+5203.
Was in the North Shunting Neck at 1745 and not numbered for an evening peak starter
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 10:43:25 GMT
today passing Rayners lane
5103/5094 on T450 heading south
was about 12 S8 stock past at same time so seem not many on uxbridge today, unless all at city end when I watched.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 17:50:30 GMT
FULL P.M. ALLOCATIONS Tuesday 26th June 2012 (North/South)
401 21033
402 21097
403 21089
404 21049
405 21104
406 21028
411 21005
412 21031
413 21052
414 21093
415 21107
416 21105
421 21043
422 21023
423 5119 5024
424 21020
425 21071
426 21062
427 21113
430 21055
431 21109
441 5113 5022
442 21102
443 21008
444 21083
445 5161 5062
446 21030
447 21053
450 5094 5103
451 21010
452 21058
453 5061 5090
454 21081
455 21096
456 21079
461 21016
462 21025
463 21040
464 21066
465 21112
466 21086
467 21067
470 21013
471 21021
472 21077
473 5231 5034
474 5116 5189
475 21041
476 21074
477 21092
NEASDEN DEPOT
5100 5203 Withdrawn
21003
21011
21017
21035 Test
21047 Test
21059 Test
21069
21075
21087 Test
21115 Test
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 23:08:57 GMT
FULL P.M. ALLOCATIONS Tuesday 26th June 2012 (North/South) 401 21033 402 21097 403 21089 404 21049 405 21104 406 21028 411 21005 412 21031 413 21052 414 21093 415 21107 416 21105 421 21043 422 21023 423 5119 5024 424 21020 425 21071 426 21062 427 21113 430 21055 431 21109 441 5113 5022 442 21102 443 21008 444 21083 445 5161 5062 446 21030 447 21053 450 5094 5103 451 21010 452 21058 453 5061 5090 454 21081 455 21096 456 21079 461 21016 462 21025 463 21040 464 21066 465 21112 466 21086 467 21067 470 21013 471 21021 472 21077 473 5231 5034 474 5116 5189 475 21041 476 21074 477 21092 NEASDEN DEPOT 5100 5203 Withdrawn 21003 21011 21017 21035 Test 21047 Test 21059 Test 21069 21075 21087 Test 21115 Test Saw most of these, and had a little trip on 5024+5119 working the 1859 Aldgate - Chesham semi fast (423)  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 8:21:36 GMT
Hi all!
From the full list of yesterday's PM allocations kindly posted by bentley67502000, it would appear as if A stocks are already only being used on peak services. Although I'm not overly familiar with the train numbers, there didn't seem to be any of the remaining As on all day circuits. Certainly all the daytime Chesham and Amersham runs were all S Stock.
Please would someone correct me if I'm wrong; am planning a last trip to London on Friday daytime, but seems like I'll be waiting until the peak before one of the few remaining As appears. Luck of the draw I guess.
Best Wishes to all
Green Lion.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 27, 2012 10:32:16 GMT
Hi all! From the full list of yesterday's PM allocations kindly posted by bentley67502000, it would appear as if A stocks are already only being used on peak services. Although I'm not overly familiar with the train numbers, there didn't seem to be any of the remaining As on all day circuits. Certainly all the daytime Chesham and Amersham runs were all S Stock. Please would someone correct me if I'm wrong; am planning a last trip to London on Friday daytime, but seems like I'll be waiting until the peak before one of the few remaining As appears. Luck of the draw I guess. Best Wishes to all Green Lion. The current OFF-PEAK numbering is as follows: 401-406 Chesham - Aldgate 411-416 Amersham – Aldgate 421-431 Uxbridge - Aldgate 441-456 Uxbridge/Watford - Baker Street 457 Watford changeover train 460-461 Rickmansworth changeover trains (weekends) 461-477 Neasden Depot interpeak stablers (Mon-Fri) On Monday T406 was an A Stock. Yesterday T423 is an all-day UXB-ALD working, T441, T445, T450, T453 are all-day UXB/WAT-BKr workings. T473/T474 were the only peak-hour only trains yesterday. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 10:42:30 GMT
Hi all! From the full list of yesterday's PM allocations kindly posted by bentley67502000, it would appear as if A stocks are already only being used on peak services. Although I'm not overly familiar with the train numbers, there didn't seem to be any of the remaining As on all day circuits. Certainly all the daytime Chesham and Amersham runs were all S Stock. Please would someone correct me if I'm wrong; am planning a last trip to London on Friday daytime, but seems like I'll be waiting until the peak before one of the few remaining As appears. Luck of the draw I guess. Best Wishes to all Green Lion. The current OFF-PEAK numbering is as follows: 401-406 Chesham - Aldgate 411-416 Amersham – Aldgate 421-431 Uxbridge - Aldgate 441-456 Uxbridge/Watford - Baker Street 457 Watford changeover train 460-461 Rickmansworth changeover trains (weekends) 461-477 Neasden Depot interpeak stablers (Mon-Fri) On Monday T406 was an A Stock. Yesterday T423 is an all-day UXB-ALD working, T441, T445, T450, T453 are all-day UXB/WAT-BKr workings. T473/T474 were the only peak-hour only trains yesterday. Also 435, 436 & 437 will be used during the Olympic's for return traffic from Wembley Park to Moorgate/Aldgate in the evenings (daily). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 12:54:29 GMT
in service today that i have seen
5090/5061
5062/5161 T425
5231/5035 T431
5100/5203 T717
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 15:21:32 GMT
Thanks very much to Dstock7080 for your helpful info re: the Met Line train numbers and workings. I might well try my luck one more time on Friday.
Best Wishes
Green Lion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 15:52:33 GMT
i was out on the Met between 1pm and 4pm yesterday (Tuesday 26th), and on my travels saw that 441, 445, 450 and 453 were all by A-Stock, definitely running during off peak hours.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 19:09:10 GMT
A stock in service during the off peak today - Wed 27 June
412 - 5189S* + 5116N*
421 - 5022S + 5113N*
422 - 5024S* + 5119N
425 - 5062S + 5161N (changed over from 443 at Uxbridge at about 12:00)
430 - 5090S* + 5061N
431 - 5034S + 5231N*
717 - 5203S + 5100N 5203 and 6203 gone by 15:40
5094+5103 in the sheds at Neasden.
A few sets out, was suprised to see almost all on the Aldgate - Uxbridge circuit, with one on an Amersham. None seen on off peak Watfords/Cheshams.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 16:21:02 GMT
Note one A stock working Uxbridge branch in the time I watched today
5231/5034
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Post by Antje on Jun 29, 2012 20:32:03 GMT
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Post by londonstuff on Jun 29, 2012 20:45:25 GMT
If someone could confirm whether there are any out tomorrow, I'd be really grateful. I'm at the tennis at Wimbledon tomorrow  but I'll try to get out on Sunday (though looking at where the closures are it's not going to be easy to get anywhere near the north end. Pity.) |
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Post by graeme186 on Jun 29, 2012 22:01:52 GMT
Change on T466 this evening: 5062+5119.
In addition to T463 (see picture above from antje) and T466, A Stock forms four other trains this evening.
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Post by Antje on Jul 1, 2012 17:28:03 GMT
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Post by graeme186 on Jul 2, 2012 12:33:24 GMT
A stock currently today 02/07 forms T421, 423, 426, 442, 447 and 455.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 13:01:48 GMT
If my figures are right, that makes 6 out of 6, or 100% A Stock availability now that the other train has reached Northwood. Can't be bad  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 13:04:04 GMT
Stabled at Uxbridge at the weekend were:
W 5022+5113 E
W 5119+5062 E
W 5098+5061 E
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Post by a60 on Jul 2, 2012 15:04:11 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 5098 now just a pile of mixed metals?
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Post by twobellstogo on Jul 2, 2012 15:19:40 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 5098 now just a pile of mixed metals? 5098 is a pile of mixed metals! I believe it's unit 5090 with 5060 |
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Post by Antje on Jul 2, 2012 17:56:48 GMT
5189 was at Aldgate the moment I entered the station. Also visually confirmed by me:  Unit 5022  Unit 5061  Unit 5062  Unit 5113  Unit 5116 |
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Post by metman on Jul 2, 2012 22:45:17 GMT
Yes good work! Saw 5189+5116, 5103+594 and 5022+5113
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 18:47:10 GMT
Unless there's been a formation change, 5090 was certainly with 5060 about a week ago, so I assume it still is.
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Post by metman on Jul 3, 2012 19:10:36 GMT
Yes saw 5061+5090 a few hours ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 21:39:23 GMT
Sorry if I've missed something on the other lengthy thread, but I've got different info from different sources, including some (clearly inaccurate) reports that last Friday was the last day of A stock in passenger service.
Am I right in thinking that the A stock will be around on peak hour only diagrams for the next week or two? (or is there a definite end date?)
Are they on specific lines / diagrams, or will the allocations vary from one day to the next?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 21:49:16 GMT
I wrote to London Underground asking whether last Friday was indeed the final day in 'normal' service when the rumour reached me in the middle of last week. This is the response I received today:
Thank you for contacting us about the A Stock Metropolitan Line Train service.
I appreciate that this is a momentum occasion, when a train that has been in service 50 years is about to be rolled back, to make way for a newer style train; the last of the Cravens stock that is still being used to this day.
I have spoken to the Performance Manager (Trains) Dave White and he has informed me that the last journey of the A Stock will be on 29 September 2012.
The plan is to keep 4 trains running until the first week of September and then reduce the trains once a week, eventually leaving 1 train for the final week of September.
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