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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2011 11:37:59 GMT
The section between Whitechapel and custom house is a right mess though! could surely be a lot better (why divert away from Limehouse when in real life the line goes right beside it?). I'm guessing it's to do with the positioning of the station names. I can't really see any other way of making the Limehouse area legible. |
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Post by Ben on Oct 3, 2011 12:43:10 GMT
Like the fact that for its own internal purposes, TfL gets rid of all the bull the rest of the map people always moan about  |
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Post by mikebuzz on Oct 3, 2011 16:09:12 GMT
^^That may also be why it doesn't look so bad... The section between Whitechapel and custom house is a right mess though! could surely be a lot better (why divert away from Limehouse when in real life the line goes right beside it?). I'm guessing it's to do with the positioning of the station names. I can't really see any other way of making the Limehouse area legible. Repositioning Wapping a bit further south leaves room for it.  |
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Post by revupminster on Apr 4, 2012 18:33:07 GMT
The tube map is a good guide to staff free travel availabilty. as crossrail is Tfl the extra availability from Shenfield to Maidenhead and then as allowed for Reading. It will be a great benefit or will there be restrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 14:48:30 GMT
The section between Whitechapel and custom house is a right mess though! could surely be a lot better (why divert away from Limehouse when in real life the line goes right beside it?). Because they've called the station "canary wharf" instead of the original "isle of dogs", and therefore seem obliged to show it linked to the other stations by that name, none of which are physically linked to each other. Its getting a bit like that irish airline's obsession with calling places "paris" when they are hundreds of miles away, rather than admitting where they really are. I don't see why they couldn't call it "poplar", and link it to that, on the tube map. Mind, they'd have to deal with Heron Quays as well. If the dock, and winter garden, wasn't in the way it would be quicker to walk from South Quays to the jubilee line than from Heron Quays. They've made a mess around woolwich as well. Woolwich arsenal DLR is less than 100 years or so away from "woolwich", close enough to be linked up underground if they'd planned it properly together (its about the same sort of distance for an underground passage as at bond street). But its miles away from abbey wood. |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Jun 6, 2012 14:53:33 GMT
I agree that DLR and LO should be on the map - they're just as important to people travelling as the tube is. I don't agree about the wheelchair symbols though as they're too blunt an instrument, as they only show step free access from all platforms to the street and real life is more complicated than that. For example going from Waterloo to Kings Cross looks like an easy journey via London Bridge for a disabled passenger, unfortunately there is no step free interchange at London Bridge - you have to exit from the station via one entrance and walk about 400 metres on the surface and re-enter at a different entrance to get to the Jubilee Line. This isn't well signposted. There are other stations where one can interchange but not exit, and these are not shown - for example a step free journey from London Bridge to Brixton can be made, using the cross-platform interchange at Stockwell, but tube map does not show this. There is a separate map showing the access in detail, including where you can and can't interchange, and what the horziontal and vertical distance between the train and platform is. This gives information that is actually useful and should be more available. At the very least, the large blue blobs should be replaced by a wheelchair symbol adjacent to the name (exactly like the NR, river service, tram, airport and dagger symbols are. This could be colour coded, so say blue for full access, red for partial - see details. Like, for instance, Berlin, where the step-free access is colour coded. (green for S-Bahn only, blue for U-Bahn only, yellow for all. Only problem is if a complex of multiple underground lines isn't fully step-free) |
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Post by rapidtransitman on Jun 6, 2012 15:22:37 GMT
Unfortunately about 8% of men are colourblind, so alot of signage and maps are now being designed to be universally read, so that the colourblind can read it too.
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Post by Alight on Jun 6, 2012 17:57:35 GMT
I'm surprised Tramlink isn't on the tube map. I'm not surprised given that Tramlink isn't a train service, contrary to the DLR and London Overground. Then again, if the cable car is going on the map... |
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Post by crusty54 on Jun 6, 2012 20:29:39 GMT
Crossrail and and the Chelsea- Hackney line were added to a trial map many years ago. The latter was going to be pale green.
The LO lines in West London look really messy nowadays.
Lose the wheelchair symbols on the map. Index is where they should be.
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Post by Fahad on Jun 6, 2012 22:58:29 GMT
Has everyone here seen the work of alex4d in redesigning the map for the future? He hasn't created a map including Crossrail, but has done one with the DLR to Dagenham Dock. He has found an unintrusive way of highlighting disability information, but it doesn't distinguish between step-free to the train or to the platform, or between step-free interchanges and step-free station ingress/egress |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 11:08:25 GMT
I hope not; it takes such a clunky zig-zag route through central london, bypassing key intersections like oxford circus and holborn, that it will only mess it up and make it as confusing as the paris metro map. Plus there is "liverpool-street", attached to moorgate, which will just crinkle up that end of the tube map [even though its claims to be "liverpool-street" are a bit of a fiction] I think it's a good thing it's not going to stop at Oxford Circus and Holborn though, street level congestion in the peaks outside those stations is already ridiculous, and I'd argue that there's also a cost element in it being cheaper to demolish the rubbish buildings by TCR than it would be to knock down Regents Street to build the new station box. I don't see what's wrong with the new stations at Barbidon and Moorool Street though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 23:34:09 GMT
I understand the desire for a clutter-free tube map, but one showing only the traditional tube lines then omits to show useful connections that, to those not au-fait with our capital city, would increase their journey-time. As a youngster, when part of the Thameslink line from Farringdon to London Bridge showed up on a tube map, I remember being astonished that you didn't have to use the Circle/District to make such a journey !
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