Will Crossrail be on the tube maps?

I think it will be since it will be TfL run, although to be honest, I think TfL really needs to step back and consider the remit of the Tube map because it is experiencing a huge amount of feature creep these days. It's not a Tube map anymore. It's a TfL services map. And that's fine, but we could really use an actual Tube map without the clutter of the DLR and LO. It's not too bad at the moment, but once you add upteen more DLR extensions, including some more into Central London, more routes on LO, Crossrail, Chelney, it's just going to be a mess.

I'm surprised Tramlink isn't on the tube map.

Is it worth doing one featuring the original tube lines and then all the subsequent LO and DLR etc. stuff on a transparent overlay?That way it'll stop everybody moaning and, then all the ugly step free access signs can be on a third overlay that can be removed completely by those who don't require to know about them.

That's how the announcements probably will be I'm thinking - Crossrail will be a big part of London so I guess it will be announced separately.

I'm prepared to be shot down over this but I could swear that I have seen a platform tube map with Tramlink on it.

"Won't be too long?" I wouldn't expect it in my lifetime...
Currently only 11 out of 100 tube stations in zone 1 have complete disabled access - and with Crossrail and all other reasonably real projects up to 2025 it will be only 27 out of 100.

I agree that DLR and LO should be on the map - they're just as important to people travelling as the tube is.

I don't agree about the wheelchair symbols though as they're too blunt an instrument, as they only show step free access from all platforms to the street and real life is more complicated than that. For example going from Waterloo to Kings Cross looks like an easy journey via London Bridge for a disabled passenger, unfortunately there is no step free interchange at London Bridge - you have to exit from the station via one entrance and walk about 400 metres on the surface and re-enter at a different entrance to get to the Jubilee Line. This isn't well signposted.
There are other stations where one can interchange but not exit, and these are not shown - for example a step free journey from London Bridge to Brixton can be made, using the cross-platform interchange at Stockwell, but tube map does not show this.

There is a separate map showing the access in detail, including where you can and can't interchange, and what the horziontal and vertical distance between the train and platform is. This gives information that is actually useful and should be more available.
At the very least, the large blue blobs should be replaced by a wheelchair symbol adjacent to the name (exactly like the NR, river service, tram, airport and dagger symbols are. This could be colour coded, so say blue for full access, red for partial - see details.

The argument can be made for an all inclusive map, but then why do we omit the other National Rail franchises? Especially now with full Oysterisation, catching a NR train is just like catching a Tube.

But that isn't quite the case either, as there are still some gaping differences between expectations of NR and TfL.

Perhaps two fully inclusive maps, one with emphasis on NR (XR vs. Thameslink), the other TfL (Central vs. Northern). This exists anyway in both forms. Perhaps both could be tweaked though to share the same style and aesthetic detailing?

I think that would be a good idea for the travelling public especially tourists so that they can see the available options on one map. Though clearly, nothing beats local knowledge of the system.

ben's 'little book of london stations'

Better yet, an iPhone app.

I think the fact that it currently only has two interchanges with the lines featured on the tube map (one of which is LO) is probably why it isn't.

I hope not; it takes such a clunky zig-zag route through central london, bypassing key intersections like oxford circus and holborn, that it will only mess it up and make it as confusing as the paris metro map.

Plus there is "liverpool-street", attached to moorgate, which will just crinkle up that end of the tube map [even though its claims to be "liverpool-street" are a bit of a fiction]

Why show something that will happen in at LEAST 7 years?