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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 21:57:43 GMT
I saw 5183 and 6183 leave by Road today. Another set gone for good  |
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Post by Antje on Apr 11, 2012 0:23:19 GMT
Any chance of a reminder, on this thread, of the timings of train 717, please? I'm sure that the timings are shown on the Forum somewhere, but I can't find them! Many thanks!  According to past records in this thread, anytime between 1130 and 1300. I just want to make sure you do not miss it. A supermarket is available for refreshments.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 14:41:43 GMT
5232 6232 6233 5233 5001 6001 arrived in Northwood Sdgs
6000 5000 will be 1st to Go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 14:49:31 GMT
5000 and 6000 now well on their way to Eastleigh  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 17:20:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 17:51:37 GMT
But why have these two carriages gone to Eastleigh – whereas the rest has gone to Booths?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 18:48:33 GMT
But why have these two carriages gone to Eastleigh – whereas the rest has gone to Booths? Damn good point, this could mean some sort of preservation ;D |
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Post by DWS on Apr 11, 2012 19:23:26 GMT
But why have these two carriages gone to Eastleigh – whereas the rest has gone to Booths? Damn good point, this could mean some sort of preservation ;D May be they have gone to Eastlieigh to have parts removed to use as spares? |
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Post by castlebar on Apr 11, 2012 19:29:07 GMT
"...........May be they have gone to Eastlieigh to have parts removed to use as spares? " Spares for what exactly if all the others have been scrapped (or are about to be)  ? |
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Post by Antje on Apr 11, 2012 19:46:51 GMT
My latest tranche of photos have been uploaded. For some reason, one of the photos appear as if 5000 has broken loose and turned itself into a "monster truck". |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 20:49:31 GMT
5000 and 6000 went to Eastleigh today.
5001 and 6001 to go tomorrow morning and then 5232, 6232 some time tomorrow afternoon, again to Eastleigh.
5233 and 6233 will follow probably early on Friday, also to Eastleigh.
All to Eastleigh - so that I have been told. If Booths were involved, there will still be at least two cars left over at the end of the week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 21:02:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 22:27:29 GMT
Any chance of a reminder, on this thread, of the timings of train 717, please? I'm sure that the timings are shown on the Forum somewhere, but I can't find them! Many thanks! T717 Every Monday & Wednesday now from 16th April until 25th July with the exception of Monday 7th May & 4th June & Wednesday 6th June as follows:- Neasden Depot (F) 12 07 Wembley Park (pfm 1) 12d17 FL Harrow-on-the-Hill (pfm 3) 12c24 LL Northwood 12/34 Moor Park 12/37 Watford South Junction 12/39½ Watford arr 12 45 (24 Siding) dep12 53 Watford South Junction 12/58 Moor Park 13/00 Northwood (pfm 2) 13/03 Northwood (22 Siding) 13 05 That will clear all the A stock left by 11th July if 2 trips run each week in good time before the the Olympics start. |
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Post by metman on Apr 11, 2012 22:36:54 GMT
Dreadful news What's going next? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 23:09:36 GMT
It won't be two every week. Mostly one a week, with some second moves occasionally.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 23:13:38 GMT
C stock is next |
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Post by redsetter on Apr 12, 2012 0:07:03 GMT
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 12, 2012 10:16:14 GMT
I hope it's not a dumb question, but why are LUL vehicles taken so far to be scrapped? Is there nowhere closer. With so many vehicles involved, why did TfL not purchase land and build their own facility on the outskirts of London - or at least purchase their own road vehicles to avoid the cost of hiring them?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 12, 2012 10:44:42 GMT
I hope it's not a dumb question, but why are LUL vehicles taken so far to be scrapped? Is there nowhere closer. With so many vehicles involved, why did TfL not purchase land and build their own facility on the outskirts of London - or at least purchase their own road vehicles to avoid the cost of hiring them? Would probably cost more in the long term to maintain the facilities and vehicles. As well as this, trains are not scrapped continuously over a number of years. For example, after the 1959 stock was scrapped from 1998 - 2000, there was then no regular scrapping until the 1967 started to go in 2010. What would happen to the facility in the intervening years? |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 12, 2012 10:48:02 GMT
Scrapping a 50 year old train - extremely outrageous . . .  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2012 10:52:20 GMT
No idea why – but land values & wages costs might be part of the reason. In parallel the scrapping of buses in London ceased probably about 50 years ago. Since then buses have been mostly scrapped in Yorkshire (most went to a place just outside of Barnsley). At the time they had large amounts of unemployment due to the closure of the Pits in the 70’s. So the work was quite useful.
The sites were also a reasonable distance from houses, shop & offices, so few people could complain about the noise & dirt nuisance. This is a problem in the more congested South of England, where we cannot even get a railway built without objections.
When the 62 stock went – it mostly went to Snailwell Scrap yard near Newmarket. I think they had a proper incinerator the trains were pushed through. Makes you wonder what environmental protection they had in place back then. It seems Booths cut the trains up manually using gas axes, so this must be very labour intensive.
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Post by twobellstogo on Apr 12, 2012 20:14:39 GMT
As long as an A stock unit or two is kept for posterity, it's not really an outrage to lose unit 5000 : it's not really that much different to others. And certainly not like, let's say, losing the first Routemaster : as that was quite, quite different to production examples. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Apr 12, 2012 20:39:48 GMT
That's really sad . |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2012 21:39:12 GMT
I spent the early afternoon on Weds. 4th April (5000's penultimate day in service) riding 5000 from HoTH to Watford and back running as T446. I've uploaded all the images and a couple of films of this unit for posterity here - Watford Stn was eerily quiet before the evening peak  photobucket.com/astock5000Enjoy ! |
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Post by pitdiver on Apr 13, 2012 7:07:46 GMT
northwoodterry, Watford Stn was always eerily quiet apart from the peaks. Sunday's were awful.
On a Sunday evening we would be lucky to see half a dozen passengers after 1900hrs. Worse at Croxley. To give you some idea how quiet Watford used to be on one late turn on Xmas Eve I took less than £12 for the whole of the shift.
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Post by redsetter on Apr 13, 2012 12:07:35 GMT
its hugely symbolic the loss of 5000. on another note they (A stock) have well outlasted many routemaster buses',those buses that survived were largely from the mid/late 60s'.
5000 ever appearing at amersham again is never going to happen,historical reenactment is scarred as well as historical nostalgia,its certainly was an upfront opportunity lost.
what does appear that might have happened, a deal was struck to scrap the entire fleet of A stock with no thought to any outside source interest.and all that appears to have been made available are the luggage racks.
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Post by 21146 on Apr 13, 2012 13:18:34 GMT
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Post by allan60 on Apr 13, 2012 20:25:10 GMT
Does anyone know what units are due to go next?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2012 6:59:13 GMT
5050 and 5149 are next.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2012 7:20:20 GMT
Im guessing already withdrawn on thursday as usual?
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