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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 2, 2017 11:35:44 GMT
you will note the thread title has now changed, just click that title, provides a link to correct thread. if the thread title has changed and I don't know what the title is now I'm never likely to find it. I've given up looking if there was a page showing the member name and their last 10 posts and under which categories I might be able to find it. otherwise its so easy to spend hours trying to find your original post particularly if the post was never in the right place to begin with. Your new thread was merged into this one, you will find your post and the responses to it in the very thread you are posting in now! If you're struggling to find your post then if you select profile at the top of the page you can navigate to all your recent posts. Admin comment To avoid clogging this thread further, please send a Private Message (PM) to one of the moderator team and they will assist you further. |
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Post by roman80 on Jun 2, 2017 11:40:17 GMT
Have any of the S7s been set up with different wheel chair area layouts to the others? I am convinced all the S7s had flip up seats for the wheelchair area, a small partition and then normal seats on the rest of that side of the carriage. Yet, today I travelled on an S stock where both sides of the partition had flip up seats. I normally only ride at peak hours so may be wrong as all seats are taken then.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 2, 2017 12:24:17 GMT
Have any of the S7s been set up with different wheel chair area layouts to the others? I am convinced all the S7s had flip up seats for the wheelchair area, a small partition and then normal seats on the rest of that side of the carriage. Yet, today I travelled on an S stock where both sides of the partition had flip up seats. I normally only ride at peak hours so may be wrong as all seats are taken then. Seating has not been changed while visiting Derby, all S7s retain 3 tip-up seats either side of the wheelchair partition. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 0:00:20 GMT
It's 4 seats one side and 3 seats on the other.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 4, 2017 7:19:05 GMT
It's 4 seats one side and 3 seats on the other. Indeed! I must look more closely at the trains I work on!   |
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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 4, 2017 13:15:51 GMT
It's 4 seats one side and 3 seats on the other. hence the odd window on the MS cars! |
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Post by class411 on Jun 4, 2017 14:11:31 GMT
It's 4 seats one side and 3 seats on the other. hence the odd window on the MS cars! What is an 'MS' car? |
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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 4, 2017 14:43:07 GMT
hence the odd window on the MS cars! What is an 'MS' car? Motor Shoegear. Basically the wheelchair cars |
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Post by wimblephil on Jun 7, 2017 23:06:49 GMT
It's 4 seats one side and 3 seats on the other. hence the odd window on the MS cars! ...and you learn something new everyday! Never noticed the smaller window before. |
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Post by MoreToJack on Jun 8, 2017 0:27:47 GMT
hence the odd window on the MS cars! ...and you learn something new everyday! Never noticed the smaller window before. You're not the only one... I pointed it out to a friend today who's been driving the trains since introduction and had never noticed! |
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Post by phoenixcronin on Jun 20, 2017 19:37:15 GMT
What does this yellow light mean? Presumably something to do with single-line working?  Edit: I didn't want to post in the other thread because this is more to do with the actual rolling stock |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 19:53:57 GMT
Isn't that the calling on signal?
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Post by t697 on Jun 20, 2017 20:07:10 GMT
It's also the [train is] Unprotected Light. This train isn't ATC installed - no grey antennae visible, so the light is on when the tripcock is isolated - for the wrong direction move in the single line working.
On the ATC installed trains the light comes on for any Restricted Manual mode.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 20:20:09 GMT
It's also the [train is] Unprotected Light. This train isn't ATC installed - no grey antennae visible, so the light is on when the tripcock is isolated - for the wrong direction move in the single line working. On the ATC installed trains the light comes on for any Restricted Manual mode. Worth mentioning that the light flashes to indicate the train is unprotected. I think the calling on light is steady, but I could be wrong |
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Post by t697 on Jun 20, 2017 21:27:30 GMT
Yes on both counts, Calling On is steady and Unprotected flashes. Sorry, I missed that no-one had mentioned flashing.
Now, perhaps phoenixcronin will tell us whether it was flashing for the picture.
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Post by MoreToJack on Jun 20, 2017 21:31:38 GMT
Yes on both counts, Calling On is steady and Unprotected flashes. Sorry, I missed that no-one had mentioned flashing. Now, perhaps phoenixcronin will tell us whether it was flashing for the picture. It will have been. It's train 532 running wrong line into Wood Lane. The tripcocks have been cut out for all of these movements. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 20, 2017 21:42:21 GMT
Isn't that the calling on signal? The calling-on light would not illuminate at an active cab end, it is also not in this position - its in the segment at the top of the headlight, the orange light shown is the RM mode light. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 6:44:46 GMT
Lucky guess and got it wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 4:07:09 GMT
21381/82 is in London awaiting entry into service. 21467/68 21547/48 are still to be delivered to London, both being used as ATC test trains. Thanks for the info! Does anyone know why 21444 has stickers over the carriage numbers externally? Was the wrong number put onto them at the factory? I am looking for units 21503/4 21505/6 and 21517/18 Has anyone noted these units recently please? Many thanks |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 30, 2017 4:27:22 GMT
I am looking for units 21503/4 21505/6 and 21517/18 Has anyone noted these units recently please? Many thanks 21505/6 is on train 67 today 21517/18 is on train 7 today |
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Post by cheskin on Jun 30, 2017 6:21:29 GMT
I have been informed that 21467/68 has now reached London. Is this correct? If so is there any way of finding out where it might be on a visit to the system?
Thank you.
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Post by class411 on Jun 30, 2017 12:36:34 GMT
Does anyone know why the internal autodescribers stop displaying the name of the next station as the train approaches the station?
It seem peculiarly daft (but par for the course for LU) that just before the train starts to decelerate for the station the describers go completely blank.
So anyone who is deaf/listening to music/can't hear for some other reason, looks up only to find that there is no indication of the next station.
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Post by North End on Jun 30, 2017 13:06:08 GMT
Does anyone know why the internal autodescribers stop displaying the name of the next station as the train approaches the station? It seem peculiarly daft (but par for the course for LU) that just before the train starts to decelerate for the station the describers go completely blank. So anyone who is deaf/listening to music/can't hear for some other reason, looks up only to find that there is no indication of the next station. On the 95 stock it is done so the screen is ready for the "this station" message. Otherwise the "next station" message could be displayed for some time after arrival at the station and either the audible announcement has to be delayed to avoid the two going out of sync or the message would have to be cut mid-flow. Naturally there are pros and cons to this. |
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Post by class411 on Jun 30, 2017 13:12:43 GMT
Does anyone know why the internal autodescribers stop displaying the name of the next station as the train approaches the station? It seem peculiarly daft (but par for the course for LU) that just before the train starts to decelerate for the station the describers go completely blank. So anyone who is deaf/listening to music/can't hear for some other reason, looks up only to find that there is no indication of the next station. On the 95 stock it is done so the screen is ready for the "this station" message. Otherwise the "next station" message could be displayed for some time after arrival at the station and either the audible announcement has to be delayed to avoid the two going out of sync or the message would have to be cut mid-flow. Naturally there are pros and cons to this. On the S-Stock, the 'next station' message is cutting out much sooner than would be necessary for what you mention above. I actually thought they were out of action because they stayed blank for so long. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 30, 2017 13:20:41 GMT
I have been informed that 21467/68 has now reached London. Is this correct? If so is there any way of finding out where it might be on a visit to the system? Thank you. this is correct, info only gleaned today that it was delivered to London on 9 June. it is likely to stay at West Ruislip for a while, commissioning of new train (collector shoes fitted etc.) then is likely to stay there for ATC testing, before being moved under its own power to Neasden, then Ealing Common for service. |
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Post by cso on Jun 30, 2017 13:35:20 GMT
Why would the ATC testing be done at West Ruislip rather than at Neasden?
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Post by crusty54 on Jun 30, 2017 13:59:59 GMT
Why would the ATC testing be done at West Ruislip rather than at Neasden? Ruislip Depot not West Ruislip. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 14:21:13 GMT
As far as I am aware, a dedicated track in Ruislip Depot is (has been made) available for testing returned trains.
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Post by cso on Jun 30, 2017 15:53:26 GMT
Ruislip Depot not West Ruislip. Yes, I'm aware of that... was just using the terminology in the previous post that I responded to  |
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Post by t697 on Jul 2, 2017 18:33:38 GMT
Does anyone know why the internal autodescribers stop displaying the name of the next station as the train approaches the station? It seem peculiarly daft (but par for the course for LU) that just before the train starts to decelerate for the station the describers go completely blank. So anyone who is deaf/listening to music/can't hear for some other reason, looks up only to find that there is no indication of the next station. Well you may think it daft, but it is actually for a good reason and not really "before the train starts to decelerate", it's later than that. The approaching station message, audio and visual, is triggered at nominally 250m or 350m to go to the stopping position. This message gives the next station, the lines you can interchange to, any "exit here for..." message, any SDO doors not opening message and any Mind the Gap message. By the time that has all scolled off the dot matrix indicators, there usually isn't time to play it again without delaying the start of the 'at station' one. LU Standards state that messages should complete and not be interrupted. Assuming one doesn't interrupt a second or subsequent scoll through of the approach messages, the delay to the 'at station' message causes more problems for passengers. It also means the messages would be potentially non compliant with RVAR becaise of the increased risk they don't complete until after the doors close for departure. |
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