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Post by metroland on Feb 6, 2013 13:07:16 GMT
I bought a Bachmann J39 several years ago, and then discovered they weren’t all that common in the Chilterns! However all was not lost as the loco was 64838 and this was one of the last in service, and indeed several of the final active ones gravitated to Woodford Halse, and I found a pic of 64838 not far away. Like so many classes they were left to run down very quickly in terms of external appearance so a makeover was a necessity. Unfortunately the cabside numbers on my specimen weren’t all that good so I replaced them with Modelmaster ones even though a coat of filth was going on top. This is a solid little model which can give hours of modelling pleasure without needing any real technical skill. Apart from numbering and weathering, I’ve added coal, fire-irons, crew, electrification flashes, and close-coupled the tender. If the signalman can see past those box vans, he won’t be too happy about the loco running without lamps….
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Post by metman on Feb 6, 2013 14:21:08 GMT
I got hold of one of these last year. Can't wait to give it a repaint.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 20:23:58 GMT
I've got one and renumbered it as 64899 which, in 1960, was the last LNE origin loco based at.... Neasden!
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Post by metroland on Feb 27, 2013 14:34:11 GMT
A full 4 car set of Q stock has been spotted undergoing trial runs at AYJ: I originally had a couple of the old Little Bus Co resin kits bought on that auction site nearly a decade ago, hoping to get some more to complete a 4 car set. As you know the original ones were Q23 driver and Q38 trailer. I really wanted a Q27 driver for the other end and ideally a Q35 trailer car but would have settled for any other trailer. Blow me, when after all those years a pair came up late last year and they were Q27 driver and Q35 trailer so clearly a ‘must have’ for me. These aren’t for the faint hearted and indeed I’d never have tried to complete these a few years back but taking a deep breath, I completed 2 last year and have now almost done the other 2. I’d had a Tenshodo WB26 motor bogie in the drawer for years. You can tell it was from the last century as the price label is £9.85 – bought for another project. This is barely adequate for the job (even with plenty of weight over the bogie) but enabled me to get some practice fitting one of these and fettling it in. When funds permit, I’ll try an Endo motor. At the moment, the motor is under the Q35 trailer to get it more towards the middle of the train. These 4 kits have 3 different underframes. As a consequence, and due to the fact I might change the actual power bogie and its position in the train, all the cars are on accomodation bogies for now. I haven’t tried adding extra pickups as it didn’t seem worth it if I’m going to change the motor anyway. The Q38 has a flat floor underneath so is currently on Bachmann Mk1’s. Once I have the set finally sorted these should become Q stock bogies or at least Q sideframes disguising the Mk1’s. Because the other 3 cars have wells under the floors and because I knew the Tenshodo would struggle, the Q23 Q27 and one end of the Q35 are actually on Lima Mark 1’s. These normally come in for a lot of criticism but because of the deep wells under the floors and the fact these are very free running meant I could fettle them in quite easily. Dummy collector beams along the side, and the fact that the springs on Mk1’s are roughly where they should be on Q stock bogies mean you can’t really tell at normal viewing distance. One lucky accident of this is that after I’d cut the couplings off the Lima bogies, the couplings on the Bachmanns under the Q38 actually hook into a slot on the Lima bogies giving a good distance between cars. This meant I just had to fashion one one-off coupling to couple the Tenshodo under the Q35 to the Lima bogie under the Q27. The fact that the wheels are 11.5mm/12mm is quite helpful with the ‘sit’ of the cars, and the deep flanges on the pizza cutter wheels aren’t a problem on Code 100 track. The Q27/Q35 still need weathering, but it was time to have a big tidy up, so I took these pics whilst there was room to set things up.
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Post by metman on Feb 28, 2013 17:11:50 GMT
Looking good! How did you find the LBC kits? I'm working on my Q31 motor at the moment although I've made some modifications to the Q31/35 kit. The bogie pivots are terrible on this kit so I've designed a new one to go with the new easy build bogies. I've also prepared some flush glazing for this kit too so hopefully this will be available by the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 17:29:52 GMT
Looking good I will have to get mine finished now!
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Post by metroland on Feb 28, 2013 17:54:08 GMT
Metman: Not too bad. Fortunately all 4 I've bought haven't suffered from warping, which i believe can happen with these. The Q27/35 seemed to have more flash than the earlier 2 which was tricky to file off the window bars. I didn't even attempt the LBC white metal bogies as I try and diguise RTR bogies under the cars. I don't like the flat underside of the Q38 with the 'bump' where the bogie pivots - I find this much more difficult to deal with than the other 3 with fairly deep wells underneath, which leave room to put layers of card and/or sponge to get the 'sit' right.
Needless to say glazing each window and vent individually on the Q38 was a PITA but just about worth the effort.
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Post by metman on Mar 1, 2013 10:46:26 GMT
The LBC bogies were terrible! This is why I designed a new set for the Q stock upgrade. Having deemed the new bogie a success, I hope to slowly redesign all the bogies in the range so be a little more friendly to construct. The A stock is next followed by the Q38/OP/R and F stock.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 11:16:46 GMT
Radley sideframes attached to modified Bachmann BR1 bogies works!
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Post by metman on Mar 1, 2013 11:19:16 GMT
Sounds a lot of work? Surely the wheel base must be too large for underground surface stock?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 11:28:17 GMT
Not a lot of work and the wheel base is only slighty out but they run well. XF
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Post by metman on Mar 1, 2013 11:48:04 GMT
Does look good. What is it about the white metal bogies that people don't like I wonder?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 12:07:26 GMT
The paint on metal bogies chips easily and they are heavy
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Post by metman on Mar 2, 2013 17:01:42 GMT
Yes they do chip sometimes which is why I varnish them with a matt varnish. I like the weight, it reduces the risk of derailment!
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Post by metroland on Mar 5, 2013 19:20:43 GMT
After getting the Q stock substantially sorted, I thought it was time I tackled something else I’d been putting off for ages. The LNWR/Met Joint Line had a policy of providing grandeur on a budget. As Aylesbury Junction was only meant to be a temporary terminus, they provided a fairly substantial passenger footbridge at the original station which doubled as a waiting area in the early days. Up to date Victorian technology meant a cast-iron and glass footbridge could be provided cheaply but which looked ‘modern’. Had Prince Albert lived, I’m sure he would have approved of the ‘flat pack’ technology that was used for the Crystal Palace being applied to this more prosaic structure.A modest ticket office was situated on the overbridge behind. (Observant viewers will note the building and overbridge are yet to be built on the layout). Some while ago I bought a Faller item with a view to very substantial hacking – please be gentle with me as this is far and away the most substantial cut and shut job I’ve ever done! Anyway, the time has come to shoot some location pics to make sure I’ve got it about right. There are some improvements needed – see later text. The view from the station yard: A crueller close up shot: Here we can see how the line was originally 2 tracks with an island platform. When it was clear the objective of Aylesbury was not going the be reached, the LNWR had a hissy fit and filled in part of one platform face and created a sharp curve to take their line off towards what is now the WCML. From this angle there is some light bleed around the bottom of the window frames which needs attention. As you can see, years of low spend on maintenance has lead to part of the roof being replaced by asbestos sheet and some windows being boarded up and covered with galvanised sheet. From here I can see the ridge tile along the asbestos area needs lowering a bit, but the overall size/location seems more or less ok. Finally a driver’s eye view from trains entering from the north on what was LNWR and later, LMS territory. The back wall is leaning in a bit at the top from this major cut and shut effort but will receive attention when the connecting bridge/corridor is taken from the corner to the ticket office.
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Post by phillw48 on Mar 5, 2013 21:26:56 GMT
I like your trees. Are they home made or kit/rtp?
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Post by metroland on Mar 6, 2013 9:23:16 GMT
Hi phillw48, I've not tried making trees myself, they're all RTP. However, they're from about 5 different sources to get the variation. I'll do some notes about them.
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Post by metroland on Mar 6, 2013 12:50:47 GMT
Ref the trees, I find that I’m never happy with using the products of just one supplier and need to vary things, much as in nature. My trees so far have fallen into 3 categories: a/ Really good quality specimen trees. b/ Good quality at reasonable prices for placing close to the track. c/ Bangs per buck for those that I need to add density to the wooded area. a/ For really good trees I’ve been buying from Ceynix: www.ceynix.co.uk/ Jacqui attends quite few shows in the south east and also does commissions (though you have to be patient). By and large for OO her trees are £20-£40 though she does have others cheaper and more expensive. When you think a carriage to today’s standards will probably cost at least £30 and I’ve got far too much stock, I took the decision to try and cut back on coaches and locos a couple of years ago and invest in some better trees – less is more. Above is a selection of Ceynix trees. The one planted by the station and the 2 at the front of the polystyrene were all £20-25 each I think, and bought off the sales stands. The 2 tall elms were made to order at about £35 each. Her trees are specific species, and not just some generalised ‘suitable for model railway’ items. b/ My 2 sources for good products at reasonable prices are Hedgerow Scenics (doesn’t have a working website – just a ‘shell’ here): www.hedgerowscenics.co.uk/ and Realistic Modelling Supplies www.realisticmodelling.com/Both these guys attend shows in south east and maybe a bit further afield. Both actually started with military dioramas etc and have expanded into railways as well. RMS do some very good low relief trees at reasonable prices (were £4.50 and £5.50 last time I bought some). Hedgerow Scenics (as the name implies) started off by doing reasonable hedgerows. Sorry I can’t remember the price but I recall these were sold in packs of 2 similar: c/ Other: The 2 main sources I’ve been using are Woodland Scenics, and The Model Tree Shop www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/ I’ve been using their bulk packs of generic trees to fill out background areas Mostly these have to be in the background but occasionally you can use eg a Woodland Scenics tree away from the others. In this shot, the lone tree in the middle of the field is a Woodland Scenics walnut tree. A few general snaps: 1/ In this shot the 2 tall elms are by Ceynix, most of the others are Model Tree Shop generic trees (with 1 from Heki as well I think) plus one Woodland Scenics walnut tree, and a couple of RMS low relief trees. 2/ To the left of the water tower all are RMS low relief trees. The large tree at the back is The Model Tree Shop, and the smaller one on the right is one of Ceynix smaller trees. 3/ Finally here, the edge of the field is Hedgerow Scenics hedgerows with Woodland Scenics generic trees behind and a walnut tree in the field (Yes it's the same pic as above)
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Post by phillw48 on Mar 6, 2013 14:39:49 GMT
Thanks for that, I'll have to keep an eye out for them when I visit shows.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2013 16:43:18 GMT
Nice, all it needs now is a class 50 and 9 mk1s. ;-)
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Post by metroland on Apr 8, 2013 12:43:21 GMT
Having done the footbridge, it meant I now had to work on the station building behind. As the era is late Victorian in the Home Counties, substantial amounts of brown brick (Scalescenes) are in evidence on the building, and the supporting walls carrying the bridge over the line that never happened. All the pieces are just resting at the moment as I need to get to the area off-camera to the left, so various bits of daylight are showing between sections. (The fence will be installed properly in time!) A view from the window side showing the method of construction using 5mm foam board for walls and supports with brick paper added. (The poor join by the fence should is again due to items simply being placed in position without finalising).
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Post by metroland on Oct 29, 2013 11:01:14 GMT
We have a possible house move on the horizon which means work on the actual layout has been suspended, so for the current modelling season I’m getting on with some stock (albeit BR on this occasion). The Hachette coaches caused quite a stir this autumn. For £3.99 they seemed pretty good and a comment I saw on one of the discussion boards made me think you could spruce them up without needing a complete repaint (at least, not if you're keeping them maroon). First up is the original out of the packet, a bit plasticky but by no means bad. In fact the roof ribs are much better than Bachmanns and also better than the latest engineering prototypes of Hornby’s Railroad Mk1’s which are due before too long (at around £15?) The main drawbacks are the solid underframe and the bevel around the edge of the glazing but from this angle (esp if train is moving) I can live with them. First re-work: A coach with quite a bit of grime. I'm pleased with this as from approx 2-3' away it looks good (to me anyway). What I did was paint the inside of the maroon sides black which immediately gives some body to the red plastic. Then 2 thin coats of satin varnish outside. Finally 2 coats of black acrylic wash, in this case not wiping away the wash but letting it dry to build up depth. Some paint and powder on the roof, weathering on the underframe, and added No Smoking triangles to the relevant centre compartments. Everything came out of the spares boxes so no extra expense. 2nd re-work: Ex works and with Commonwealth bogies. For this one and the next, I bought Bachmann Commonwealth bogies so this was the only expense. As Commonwealths weren't fitted until 1962 on new build and that's the end of the period I do, I tried to make this ex-works but converted it to 2nd Open SO. This meant changing the roof vent layout (easy enough) and fitting No Smoking triangles on the end bays. I haven't got an interior for it yet. I tried to bodge the old Peco card kit but made a mess of it. As this was ex-works I gave it one coat of gloss varnish as a base for the coach crests. Over this I applied a coat of satin varnish. This time I gave it 2 coats of black acrylic wash but immediately wiped most off with a damp sponge. Absolute minimal weathering. I added ‘Emergency Lighting Point’ and star decals to the solebar as this coach has very little road grime. Third re-work: Another corridor 2nd BSK but this time with more Commonwealth bogies. Weathering was somewhere between the ex-works and grimy ones. (On these last 2 coaches they look a bit more plastic in the pictures than in real life – the camera can be very cruel!) Still to come 4 more coaches. I'll do an SO with Mk1 bogies and fairly heavy weathering, but after that I'm not sure about the other 3.
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