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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2010 10:26:58 GMT
THe 62ts has grey car ends (well apart from the outer cabs). Any reason it isn't white?
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Post by trainopd78 on Nov 25, 2010 18:35:40 GMT
I remember you taking that picture at Woodford. ;D
Most of the white and blue paint is vinyl apart from the doors which are painted. I dont think the middles are grey for any particular reason, but the fact that most of white panels are vinyled was probably a consideration in the choice of colour?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2010 18:46:45 GMT
Hello, First post here, but just thought i'd share some photos from Saturday (20th), when i went searching for the Central line sandites. The West End train didn't pass North Acton between 13:00 and 13:45, when i headed across to Woodford, where i did manage to catch the East End one, photos towards the end of here: www.wavygravy.fotopic.net/c1918606.htmlOf note was that it arrived at Woodford from the North about 15:05, and they departed back North. The timings i have had it running down to Leytonstone and back North from there at that time. I also saw my first LUL battery locos (other than one that was at Old Oak Common open day back in the early 90s, but didn't note the number!) which were handily placed on the closed H&C/District lines at Mile End. Hi Wavy, First of all welcome to the forum. I was out on Saturday for the east end Sandite as well (see earlier post in forum). It passes me at Snaresbrook at 1420 running from Newbury Park to Leytonstone via Grange Hill. I then travelled to Woodford to photograph it running from Leytonstone to Epping. It passed Woodford at 1435. By the way did you have any trouble at Woodford? One of the SA staff decided to give me a bollocking for standing in and I quote "a non public area" i.e. standing at the end of the publicly accessible platform! Now last time I checked a non public area would be fenced off with barriers. This area is open to the public and despite pointing this fact out he wasn't listening. Also I was told I need a permit to photograph which again I know isn't true as I was "passing through". Irish Underground
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2010 9:07:48 GMT
Hello, First post here, but just thought i'd share some photos from Saturday (20th), when i went searching for the Central line sandites. The West End train didn't pass North Acton between 13:00 and 13:45, when i headed across to Woodford, where i did manage to catch the East End one, photos towards the end of here: www.wavygravy.fotopic.net/c1918606.htmlOf note was that it arrived at Woodford from the North about 15:05, and they departed back North. The timings i have had it running down to Leytonstone and back North from there at that time. I also saw my first LUL battery locos (other than one that was at Old Oak Common open day back in the early 90s, but didn't note the number!) which were handily placed on the closed H&C/District lines at Mile End. Hi Wavy, First of all welcome to the forum. I was out on Saturday for the east end Sandite as well (see earlier post in forum). It passes me at Snaresbrook at 1420 running from Newbury Park to Leytonstone via Grange Hill. I then travelled to Woodford to photograph it running from Leytonstone to Epping. It passed Woodford at 1435. By the way did you have any trouble at Woodford? One of the SA staff decided to give me a bollocking for standing in and I quote "a non public area" i.e. standing at the end of the publicly accessible platform! Now last time I checked a non public area would be fenced off with barriers. This area is open to the public and despite pointing this fact out he wasn't listening. Also I was told I need a permit to photograph which again I know isn't true as I was "passing through". Irish Underground Hi, Thanks for those details, i probably didn't miss it by too much heading North when you saw it then. No, didn't have any troubles at all. I waited towards the North of the platform, but not at the end so i could see the departure boards after reading on here that they appear as 'special' on them, and then just walked up to the end just before it arrived.
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Post by Ben on Nov 30, 2010 8:17:13 GMT
Cant remember where it was, but someone remarked that the sandite trains went through a lot of paperwork to receive the corporate livery and to be allowed variations on it. I'm wondering what affect the painting of a 59ts in the previous decade had on it; was any of that event useful this time around? There are quite a few differences between them though; why could this be?
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Post by 21146 on Nov 30, 2010 18:32:06 GMT
Probably no affect. Two different purposes, two different project management teams. When the Northern Line train was done, LU had become quite lax on design (think all the unofficial line/depot ties then being worn}. The RAT had its white-painted/maroon-roofed "SANDITE CAR", the Central its unique red, white & blue "Rail Treatment Car" livery which only disappeared in 2009. Now things have been much more tightened up design-wise. As engineers trains the Central Line Sandites should probably be in yellow anyway! There's a school of thought that the new Asset Inspection Train should be in either yellow or a version of the Sandite livery but Tube Lines got away with their own design (which one day might enter service!).
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Post by auxsetreq on Dec 3, 2010 11:48:34 GMT
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Post by Ben on Dec 3, 2010 22:29:19 GMT
Wheres the roundle gone?!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2010 22:40:51 GMT
Wheres the roundle gone?! That would appear to be from the 'headwall' mark board on the platform.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2011 17:36:03 GMT
It would appear that the 8car 62TS went out on a Test Run today [Ruislip Depot-North Acton-Ruislip Depot] No idea what the Test Run was for....... 62TS seen at Greenford
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Post by trainopd78 on Jan 14, 2011 18:09:18 GMT
It was run on a couple of trips to test nozzle sizes. It's me on the handle lol
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Post by 21146 on Jan 14, 2011 19:08:33 GMT
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Post by Ben on Jan 15, 2011 0:24:01 GMT
Wheres the roundle gone?! That would appear to be from the 'headwall' mark board on the platform. Where the concrete lamppost is yeah? Middle of the picture, slightly to the right. If so it makes very little difference as other stations which have had roundles beyond their limit of physical use retain them Presumably someone at some time has removed it, which in turn would cost money.
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Post by trainopd78 on Jan 15, 2011 19:21:44 GMT
Just a little info for you all as I noticed the captions in the pictures. The train was originally meant to be numbered 730, but it was agreed with the controller to number it 480. The train was numbered 600 when we prepared it which was the number it carried when it was trainsferred from Hainault to Ruislip.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 13:40:28 GMT
Greetings what a very kind Line Controller that was, allowing a proper train out to run with its correct number, always a pleasure to assist !! Charmed as always, some nice pics of the run as well, glad it was a fairly bright day for a change. Phil ginstersrailwayphotos.fotopic.net/
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Post by 21146 on Jan 16, 2011 19:11:34 GMT
Shouldn't it have been "481" as a west end working?
Anyway glad to have caught it again after a false start the previous day. Sometimes I ask myself what I'm doing spending time and effort chasing these odd workings which may, or just as likely may not, happen. All worth while when the target hoves into view!
In fact the weather and general light level was terrible and the pix required a fair bit of digital "tweaking" afterwards.
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Post by Colin D on Jan 16, 2011 19:53:55 GMT
Sometimes I ask myself what I'm doing spending time and effort chasing these odd workings which may, or just as likely may not, happen. All worth while when the target hoves into view! Your time and effort is very much appreciated by those of us who are far too many miles away to see it "in person" Thank you Colin D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 20:04:14 GMT
Same here, very much enjoy looking through them too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2011 22:23:39 GMT
Hi guys, new to the forum. Was wondering, as i always knew the sandites as 59ts. What, if any is the difference between a 59 and a 62? Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2011 23:35:34 GMT
Hi guys, new to the forum. Was wondering, as i always knew the sandites as 59ts. What, if any is the difference between a 59 and a 62? Thanks. Sandites are 62TS
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 30, 2011 6:54:22 GMT
What, if any is the difference between a 59 and a 62? Thanks. The two types were interchangeable in practice, and I believe could work in multiple. Indeed, mixed formations were used on the Central Line - the 1959 units started life on the Central, after a decision to re-equip the Central before the Piccy, and one NDM from each eight car train remained on the Central when the 1959 stock trains were moved to the Piccadilly and 1962 stock delivered to the Central. The Piccadilly's 1959 stock fleet also included the one and only 3- car 1962 unit, nominally for the Aldwych shuttle although not confined to it. After withdrawal from the Central Line, some 1962 stock units were transferred to the Northern Line to work alongside the 1959 stock. According to "squarewheels" •1962 stock has motor-generators (DC) with an alternator section (AC) on the same shaft, where 1959 stock has motor-generators. •On cab fronts, the red stabling lamp is located outside the headlamps, i.e. to their left, rather than to their right as on 1959 stock. This is because of different equipment in the cab, relating to the motor alternator Until these stabling lamps were fitted, in the early 1970s, there was no way of telling them apart from the outside other than their numbers.
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Post by Oracle on Apr 30, 2011 8:08:47 GMT
The 1962 Stock unit did indeed couple to 4-car 1959 Stocks..not sure about the 1956 Stock though!
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Post by JR 15secs on Apr 30, 2011 8:52:23 GMT
What, if any is the difference between a 59 and a 62? Thanks. The two types were interchangeable in practice, and I believe could work in multiple. Indeed, mixed formations were used on the Central Line - the 1959 units started life on the Central, after a decision to re-equip the Central before the Piccy, and one NDM from each eight car train remained on the Central when the 1959 stock trains were moved to the Piccadilly and 1962 stock delivered to the Central. The Piccadilly's 1959 stock fleet also included the one and only 3- car 1962 unit, nominally for the Aldwych shuttle although not confined to it. After withdrawal from the Central Line, some 1962 stock units were transferred to the Northern Line to work alongside the 1959 stock. According to "squarewheels" •1962 stock has motor-generators (DC) with an alternator section (AC) on the same shaft, where 1959 stock has motor-generators. •On cab fronts, the red stabling lamp is located outside the headlamps, i.e. to their left, rather than to their right as on 1959 stock. This is because of different equipment in the cab, relating to the motor alternator Until these stabling lamps were fitted, in the early 1970s, there was no way of telling them apart from the outside other than their numbers. 62s had MAs and the driver control desk was different, similar to A stock. There were other differences I'm sure that older Central line people will enlighten.
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