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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 11, 2010 13:19:42 GMT
I hope this thread hasn't inadvertantly alerted the powers that be of items that are out of corporate favour :/ It could well be- as Cannon Street WB gone too ! The're dropping like flies now! |
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Post by Ben on Jul 11, 2010 18:37:58 GMT
 Hands up again all those who prefer the DMIs (or just nothing as in some circumstances...)? Its interesting just how subjective what constitutes corporate heritage is. You didn't have an alterior motive by making a list there did you 21146?    The niché that the lightboxes fill is something that hasn't been totally covered by the DMIs, but then again who listens to sentamentality. Perhaps someone screaming 'budget cuts' loudly enough directly into the ear of whomever is responsible might stop them from organising a work force to remove them? |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 11, 2010 20:07:06 GMT
Amazing they have the money for all this replacement.
At least those in the central area will actually be used; unlike, say, all the ones installed on the Uxbridge branch.
The old ones with the black glass and ultra-thin Johnston lettering had a real modern "LT-look" about them when new and I for one am sorry to see them almost wiped out now.
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Post by dannyofelmpark on Jul 17, 2010 9:51:49 GMT
Is there any reason Baker Street is shown as a destination at Whitechapel? If H&Cs reverse there, would they use the Met platforms? (Isn't it coincidental that this weekend there's no H&C running from Hammersmith to Baker Street?) I can remember Baker Street being lit on these describers at Whitechapel on Notting Hill Carnival day back in 1991. We boarded what we thought was a normal H&C working at Whitechapel and when it got to Liverpool Street it became a Circle Line |
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Post by tubeprune on Jul 17, 2010 10:45:32 GMT
Is there any reason Baker Street is shown as a destination at Whitechapel? If H&Cs reverse there, would they use the Met platforms? (Isn't it coincidental that this weekend there's no H&C running from Hammersmith to Baker Street?) Just noticed this. Yes, they used to run a train or two each evening from Whitechapel to Neasden Depot. They ran passenger to Baker St and then empty to Neasden (usually up the Bakerloo). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2010 8:40:18 GMT
Indeed the Harrow-on-the-Hill boxes are being removed too, there was an announcement at the station the other day saying that the 'Train describers will be turned off temporarily while they are refurbished. Please listen for announcements regarding train departures'.
I am guessing this means they will be removed and replaced with more modern ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2010 9:40:11 GMT
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Post by su31 on Jul 29, 2010 21:55:37 GMT
I hope this thread hasn't inadvertantly alerted the powers that be of items that are out of corporate favour :/ It could well be- as Cannon Street WB gone too ! The're dropping like flies now! I've come back for nights this week at Cannon Street, and lo-and-behold, the w/b describer has been removed for "essential maintenance"... |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 29, 2010 23:50:41 GMT
I noted today that platform 5 at Seven Sisters has a 1960s light-box describer. It seems to have shown "WALTHAMSTOW", "SPECIAL" and "STOPS HERE" (when it was working).
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 13, 2010 7:54:04 GMT
Barons Court both WB gone now !
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Post by DWS on Aug 13, 2010 15:19:23 GMT
East Ham has had them removed from both Westbound & Eastbound platforms.
The one at Upney has a paper notice stuck on it "Out of Order".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2010 23:21:35 GMT
The ones which were removed from Harrow-on-the-Hill have now been put back, they weren't switched on but they were definitely back there again.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 14, 2010 12:03:55 GMT
It could well be- as Cannon Street WB gone too ! The're dropping like flies now! I've come back for nights this week at Cannon Street, and lo-and-behold, the w/b describer has been removed for "essential maintenance"... Lo-and-behold, Cannon Street WB has indeed appeared back up!! (not currently in use) |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 16, 2010 13:40:52 GMT
Upton Park BOTH gone now! Upton Park BOTH back again!!! |
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Post by DWS on Aug 16, 2010 20:39:16 GMT
Upton Park BOTH gone now! Upton Park BOTH back again!!! East Ham has them both back, but they have not been wired up yet. |
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Post by railtechnician on Aug 17, 2010 0:13:27 GMT
Is there any reason Baker Street is shown as a destination at Whitechapel? If H&Cs reverse there, would they use the Met platforms? (Isn't it coincidental that this weekend there's no H&C running from Hammersmith to Baker Street?) Just noticed this. Yes, they used to run a train or two each evening from Whitechapel to Neasden Depot. They ran passenger to Baker St and then empty to Neasden (usually up the Bakerloo). back in the late 1970s when I worked out of Whitecahpel New Works depot we used to go everywhere by train on the night shift. My recollection is that the last couple of H&C trains leaving Whitechapel were both described as Liverpool Street, the last train did indeed go to Baker Street where we headed to the canteen to await Engineering Hours before going downstairs to work on the Jubilee Stage 1. However, the one before it IIRC got to Liverpool Street and the description changed to Circle Line, when it got to Farringdon the description was Stops Here and it got shunted into Farringdon sidings. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 23, 2010 15:28:53 GMT
Although not strictly 1960s, the EB describer at Barons Court PICC has gone too.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 27, 2010 10:04:40 GMT
Barons Court EB PICC and both WB lightboxes back again!
Aldgate East- two dot-matrix indicators up on both platforms, not yet working, so the lightboxes going very soon.
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Post by 21146 on Aug 27, 2010 13:44:17 GMT
Barons Court EB PICC and both WB lightboxes back again! Aldgate East- two dot-matrix indicators up on both platforms, not yet working, so the lightboxes going very soon. And no doubt will give no greater advance warning of trains than the present outdated system does (see also Mile End, Bow Road etc). |
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Post by 21146 on Aug 31, 2010 17:29:32 GMT
Barons Court EB Pic describer back in place, though not working. They seem to have cleaned the glass as all possible displays are now faintly discernable: NEXT TRAIN >---> COCKFOSTERS OAKWOOD ARNOS GROVE WOOD GREEN HYDE PARK CORNER* THIS STATION GLOUCESTER RD CALEDONIAN RD COVENT GARDEN ARSENAL HOLLOWAY RD FOR ABOVE STATIONS
CHANGE AT EARLS COURT*Originally read "NOT STOPPING AT" www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/4945432917/ |
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Post by Ben on Sept 11, 2010 16:49:35 GMT
For the fear of this thread alerting authorities to non compliant heritage (*cough* Orwell *cough*) it actually seems to have inspired someone somewhere to refurbish the surviving examples! A really reassuring turn up for the books that! As always 21146, your pictures are an excellent and comprehensive record of Londons' Transport scene. Thank you |
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Post by Colin on Sept 12, 2010 2:01:31 GMT
And no doubt will give no greater advance warning of trains than the present outdated system does (see also Mile End, Bow Road etc). All the time you have the possibility of a westbound train coming from any of 3 platforms at Whitechapel, or converging from 2 different directions on the eastbound, you'll never get reliable predictions as the TD system won't necessarily know where the next train is coming from. On top of that, I would imagine the TD's displayed at Aldgate East are via the computer at Baker Street. Given that the computer only covers Aldgate East on the westbound and only from Liverpool Street on the eastbound, it's not likely to be able to display anything more than it can 'see'. All junction areas are the same and it is perhaps the one limitation of LU's TD system, but given how old the technology is it was probably a great boon when it was first introduced. As I'm sure you know, the TD system is part of the signalling system and that has perhaps failed to keep pace with current technology, and therefore peoples expectations given what's possible these days. Of course money is the big baddy here but things can only improve significantly with wholesale re-signalling. |
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Post by Chris M on Sept 14, 2010 8:43:10 GMT
Of course money is the big baddy here but things can only improve significantly with wholesale re-signalling. Hopefully when the signalling eventually happens, it utilises the advanced technology of the time rather specifying what was the advanced technology when it was originally supposed to happen, but which by then is outdated. |
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Post by 21146 on Oct 4, 2010 21:33:09 GMT
Cannon Street W/B back in use now, though with some (incorrectly?) lit areas covered with paper.
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Post by Colin on Oct 5, 2010 2:24:59 GMT
Cannon Street W/B back in use now, though with some (incorrectly?) lit areas covered with paper. I may be mistaken as I often pass that sign faster than walking pace, but I think you'll find those bit's of paper state the sign is being tested. |
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Post by 21146 on Oct 5, 2010 14:44:50 GMT
No it says the east-face is under replacement. The west-face has some long unseen "IF NO THROUGH TRAIN..." info re-lit, plus new references to NR instead of BR and a very odd style of arrow.
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Post by Colin on Oct 5, 2010 16:56:34 GMT
Well there you go then.
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Post by 21146 on Oct 5, 2010 21:19:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2010 18:44:21 GMT
Harrow's are all now completely back and working.
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Post by su31 on Oct 15, 2010 21:50:47 GMT
No it says the east-face is under replacement. The west-face has some long unseen "IF NO THROUGH TRAIN..." info re-lit, plus new references to NR instead of BR and a very odd style of arrow. There are still some issues with the Cannon St describer. The 'if no through train...' lights still don't illuminate the complete text, and also, the next train (1,2,3) lights are also out of alignment. It's a pity that it wasn't tested properly. I'll see what I can do! Update 19/10/10 They have now re-lamped the 1,2,3 bulbs but the 'if no through train to Wimbledon' sections need replacing (!) as they are incorrectly made, so will take a bit longer to sort out. It is also worth noting, that the electrics for this are all original 1960's and they are in a poor state of repair in one of the rooms off the eastbound platform. The original scope of works was to re-lamp the board with 'LED' style lights, but it is clearly 'normal' golf-ball lamps and small fluorescent strips being used again. |
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