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Post by deadmans on Oct 21, 2009 8:11:07 GMT
Well here it is, in all its glory. Rolled in around 3.30 am, somewhat late, due to braking problems with the class 20's.
Amid high security, senior mangers on their first night turn in 20 years ;D, and the gentlemen of the press, it rolled from 29 south with 20189 pulling it in south to north.
21099 is the south end driving car, with 21100 at the north end. Two empty Metronet ballast wagons, plus a tanker at each end coupled to the stock made a interesting sight!!
PLEASE NOTE THERE IS NO GENERAL STAFF ACCESS TO THE TRAIN, MAIN PIT, OR SIDE PITS.
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Post by plasmid on Oct 21, 2009 8:31:18 GMT
Looking good. Still not too keen on the bendy bit from the carriage joiners, pehaps it should be thinner like on the class 378. I hope those bolts at the bottom of the train don't snap off (92ts). They look awfully puny.
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Post by Phil on Oct 21, 2009 10:10:22 GMT
Thanks for that Deadmans: for those of us who knew when it was coming but were sworn to secrecy it's great someone like you can get the pics and keep the rest of us 'in the loop'. Nice set.
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Post by Oracle on Oct 21, 2009 10:45:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 10:57:22 GMT
Thanks for sharing the photos!
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Post by happybunny on Oct 21, 2009 11:06:28 GMT
Why the oil tankers ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 11:15:50 GMT
Extra braking capacity I would expect, 8 car swinger needs as many brake shoes as possible. ;D
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Post by Chris M on Oct 21, 2009 11:22:35 GMT
Extra braking capacity I would expect, 8 car swinger needs as many brake shoes as possible. ;D AIUI the tankers were the barrier wagons* and the ballast wagons would be there for the extra braking. *Wagons with different coupler types at each end. I believe they are more logically known as "translator" wagons in North American parlance.
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Post by SE13 on Oct 21, 2009 11:23:57 GMT
Nice one!
Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.
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Post by glasgowdriver on Oct 21, 2009 11:55:00 GMT
that looks absoloutly fantastic i am a fan of the Astock and Cstock but i cant wait to see these things wizzing around on the met and circle.
anyone now when they will be doing test runs like the 09 stock done on the victoria
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 11:55:04 GMT
Thanks for sharing those pictures 'deadmans'; much appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 12:01:05 GMT
As new trains go I've seen worse but can we all show a bit of respect and sympathy to Metman and others who will be in deep mourning at this time.
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Post by tubeprune on Oct 21, 2009 12:14:22 GMT
Thank you deadmans for this, especially the excellent photography and some technical bits too. Much appreciated.
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Post by pakenhamtrain on Oct 21, 2009 12:19:03 GMT
A very nice looking train. Thanks for the shots.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 12:39:50 GMT
i cant wait to see these things wizzing around on the met and circle. If they're anything like the rubbish we usually buy, they'll be whizzing in and out of the depot more often than not. Like an earlier comment, don't know if i'd be too happy with all those puny bolts and add ons underneath. All looks a bit cheap and nasty to me!
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Post by plasmid on Oct 21, 2009 14:50:41 GMT
that looks absoloutly fantastic i am a fan of the Astock and Cstock but i cant wait to see these things wizzing around on the met and circle. anyone now when they will be doing test runs like the 09 stock done on the victoria quicker than you think...they don't have to undergo ATO testing as they won't be ATO to start with. they will do more testing than the class 378's due to the different lines etc. and iirc someone said that these trains can't run on the old track or some bs. someone fill me in please.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 15:50:21 GMT
If i'm in a cabin on nights and another unit is getting delivered or there's a test run i'll try and get some video footage and in glorious HD too!
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Post by deadmans on Oct 21, 2009 18:37:58 GMT
Glad you like the pictures, it was a busy night.
A number of things strike me about the train.
The number of dents in the bodywork. The height of the sole bar compared to the A60's The smaller wheel sets, really do stand out. The amount of equipment below the sole bar in staggering. The size of the front cabs, their windows, and three sets of double bladed wipers.!!! The naff name plate.
But all in all, it does look superb.
It was most odd though, seeing a brand new train dragged in by a loco built 5 years after the A60'S!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 18:41:26 GMT
A number of things strike me about the train. The naff name plate. Say no more!!
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Post by citysig on Oct 21, 2009 20:18:18 GMT
Glad you like the pictures, it was a busy night. A number of things strike me about the train. The smaller wheel sets, really do stand out. The amount of equipment below the sole bar in staggering. The size of the front cabs, their windows, and three sets of double bladed wipers.!!! Those wheels are going to have to turn a lot more than an A60s (and will probably flatten easier at this time of year). And it looks like hardly anything will be able to be fixed whilst out on the road - so a trip to depot will be needed. And with those windows and wipers, the dirty windscreens are going to be an even bigger problem... But yes, looking good...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 22:23:46 GMT
Can they throw sand?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 0:10:34 GMT
it came in by rail to neasden not road transport then? interesting. can anyone say what route it took to the depot from Old Dalby?
Looks sweet, hope it isn't cheap and plastic and built to last like the good 'ol days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 0:21:02 GMT
it came in by rail to neasden not road transport then? interesting. can anyone say what route it took to the depot from Old Dalby? Looks sweet, hope it isn't cheap and plastic and built to last like the good 'ol days. Check this post for Routing and Times
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 22, 2009 14:15:16 GMT
it came in by rail to neasden not road transport then? interesting. can anyone say what route it took to the depot from Old Dalby? . According to yesterday's Evening Standard* "Londons's first air-conditioned Tube train arrived today on a low-loader before being driven along the tracks from Amersham to Neasden" (*and therefore almost certain to be wrong on at least one important fact!)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 15:16:55 GMT
More newbie stuff: What is a Scotch Block? (Nothing to drink, I am guessing) What is a Bombardier SPIC? (not PC here in the USA!)
Wonderful pics for sure! Anxious to see some inside-the-cab and controls shots!
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Post by SE13 on Oct 22, 2009 15:53:03 GMT
it came in by rail to neasden not road transport then? interesting. can anyone say what route it took to the depot from Old Dalby? . According to yesterday's Evening Standard* "Londons's first air-conditioned Tube train arrived today on a low-loader before being driven along the tracks from Amersham to Neasden" (*and therefore almost certain to be wrong on at least one important fact!) Ah yes: © London StandardSome of the comments are just laughable......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 15:53:19 GMT
More newbie stuff: What is a Scotch Block? (Nothing to drink, I am guessing) What is a Bombardier SPIC? (not PC here in the USA!) Wonderful pics for sure! Anxious to see some inside-the-cab and controls shots! Scotch block. A wooden wedge used either under a wheel to stop trains rolling. Another type of scotch is used wedged between point blades to stop movement in certain failure conditions. Bombarddier. Train manufacturer SPIC. Site Person In Charge.
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Post by SE13 on Oct 22, 2009 16:01:51 GMT
Thanks Jim.
There is a close up of one of said blocks within the picture link.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 22, 2009 16:36:59 GMT
Bombardier. Train manufacturer . A Canadian-owned conglomerate, which started out in snowmobiles in the 1930s. It owns what is left of British Rail Engineering Ltd, which was bought by ASEA-Brown Boveri (ABB) in 1989. ABB became Adtranz after acquisition by Daimler Benz in 1996, and was then sold to Bombardier in 2001. In a similar way Metro-Cammell lives on as part of Alstom.
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Post by SE13 on Oct 22, 2009 16:49:38 GMT
Alstom are now owned by Siemens.
RGT (as it was here) were bought out by ABBA (No not the pop group) then Alstom then Siemens. Probably completely unrelated to the train companies franchises though, as they deal with gas turbines here.
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