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Post by tubeprune on Jul 29, 2009 6:30:17 GMT
This is the planned diagram:
06.50 Clapham Junction - Stratford
08.09 Stratford - Richmond
09.22 Richmond - Stratford
10.37 Stratford - Richmond
11.57 Richmond - Stratford
13.07 Stratford - Richmond
14.27 Richmond - Stratford
15.47 Stratford - Richmond (56 min layover at Richmond, 16.40 to 17.36)
17.36 Richmond - Willesden Junction
18.27 Willesden Junction - Richmond then ECS
Usual health warning about failures, cancelled runs etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 6:32:38 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Jul 29, 2009 15:58:01 GMT
Finally! Is it scheduled to run the same tomorrow?
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Post by 21146 on Jul 29, 2009 18:25:58 GMT
Maybe they were reading this board?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2009 19:55:03 GMT
Finally! Is it scheduled to run the same tomorrow? Yes. And Friday as well. Should be two diagrams from Monday |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 29, 2009 20:32:13 GMT
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Post by roythebus on Jul 30, 2009 7:23:49 GMT
How long before the windows get etched I wonder??
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 30, 2009 9:20:10 GMT
What days is the train running?
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Post by happybunny on Jul 30, 2009 11:14:52 GMT
I noticed the guard, he didn't seem to release the doors though, just close them? Does the driver release the doors?
Also noticed that there is 'emergency access' to the cab, via the cab door.. similar to on LUL trains. I didn't think this was a requirement on NR services as they have emergency door release handles on the normal passenger doors!
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Post by mcmaddog on Jul 30, 2009 11:32:23 GMT
... noticed that there is 'emergency access' to the cab, via the cab door.. similar to on LUL trains. I didn't think this was a requirement on NR services as they have emergency door release handles on the normal passenger doors! I would've thought this is because of ELL tunnel regulations. |
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Post by happybunny on Jul 30, 2009 11:53:16 GMT
... noticed that there is 'emergency access' to the cab, via the cab door.. similar to on LUL trains. I didn't think this was a requirement on NR services as they have emergency door release handles on the normal passenger doors! I would've thought this is because of ELL tunnel regulations. Ahh I see, that makes sense then! Thanks for clearing that up. So does the ELL tunnel not have sidewalks like the DLR? What does a tunnel need to have, like some NR tunnels don't have sidewalks.. i.e. East Putney tunnel, NR trains run through there without problems and without having cab door emergency access! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 13:02:43 GMT
So does the ELL tunnel not have sidewalks like the DLR? I doubt they thought of sidewalks back in 1860s  |
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Post by patstonuk on Jul 30, 2009 15:43:24 GMT
I managed a short ride on 378005 yesterday between Willesden Jn and West Hampstead. I deliberately sat (rather than perched) in one of the seats behind the cab so as to be able to see the full length of the train's interior. Unusual and interesting! Certainly better for personal security.
The ride was comfortable and the aircon a welcome feature. I even liked the moquette!
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Post by mcmaddog on Jul 30, 2009 16:28:38 GMT
So does the ELL tunnel not have sidewalks like the DLR? I doubt they thought of sidewalks back in 1860s Although ironically I think it was a pedestrian tunnel when built! Saying that it was either lucky, or foresight, that you could fit a full sized train through a tunnel designed for pedestrians. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 30, 2009 16:33:21 GMT
Although ironically I think it was a pedestrian tunnel when built! Saying that it was either lucky, or foresight, that you could fit a full sized train through a tunnel designed for pedestrians. Yes! would've been interesting if Brunel had built it to Greenwich Foot Tunnel dimensions! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 17:58:58 GMT
Although ironically I think it was a pedestrian tunnel when built! Saying that it was either lucky, or foresight, that you could fit a full sized train through a tunnel designed for pedestrians. Yes! would've been interesting if Brunel had built it to Greenwich Foot Tunnel dimensions! It was intended (back in the 1820's) for (horse drawn) cart/wagon/carriage traffic (getting across the river wasn't any easier then!) - but the money for building the approach ramps was never available. Going back to the 'cab door emergency access' arrangements, I would have put this down to a combination of LT influence and lack of grandfather rights for a train without them in a single track tunnel. On a different tack, why do the 378s need their own (new & different) set of stopping marks at each station? |
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Post by ghostofjk on Jul 30, 2009 18:31:11 GMT
I got a ride between Willseden Junction and South Acton - very pleasant. I sat by the front cab, but the effect of looking down the train didn't do much for me - you can see it bending, but it's nothing you wouldn't expect. It hit a slight problem at Acton Central, where it started pulling away and then stopped, several times. The driver opened the door; a technician in a black t-shirt was already striding down the train towards him. "It's playin' up again!" remarked the driver, before they both vanished behind the cab door. Amusingly, owing to the walk-through carriages, the episode was watched by the whole of the train. That said, very few people seemed to notice anything unusual about the train! Perhaps if they're all regulars they were on it yesterday too... Overall - bar the teething problems that all new trains have - an enjoyable experience. I felt sorry for the poor souls crammed into the 313 we passed at Acton Central. There were seats to spare, and the moquette looked OK (I'll admit I had my doubts!). One negative: unlike on tube trains, there weren't that many maps of the network; certainly they were not present above most seats. The DVA compensates to some extent, but I had rather assumed this obvious bit of good practice would have been imported. Still, it remains a vast improvement over the hopeless signage on the 313s. Couple of pics here: www.flickr.com/photos/johnkell/sets/72157621769677111/ |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 30, 2009 20:39:13 GMT
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Post by astock5000 on Jul 30, 2009 21:05:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 21:51:27 GMT
Interesting that the London Overground network line diagrams in today's 378 (007) were not in Johnston / New Johnston font ! A mistake or a new standard  |
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Post by 21146 on Jul 30, 2009 22:56:34 GMT
And maps not visible from a lot of seats too.
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Post by happybunny on Jul 31, 2009 0:51:41 GMT
When I was travelling on one of these, the guard got locked out ! ! Was hilarious
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Post by johnb on Jul 31, 2009 9:47:06 GMT
So does the ELL tunnel not have sidewalks like the DLR? What does a tunnel need to have, like some NR tunnels don't have sidewalks.. i.e. East Putney tunnel, NR trains run through there without problems and without having cab door emergency access! I don't know East Putney, but normally NR trains need cab door access if they're going through single-bore tunnels where there's no side access throughout the length of the train. The Thameslink 319s have emergency cab doors because the (now out of passenger service) tunnels between Farringdon and Moorgate were like this; the Great Northern 313s have them because the tunnels between Drayton Park and Moorgate are like this. |
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Post by superteacher on Jul 31, 2009 11:40:50 GMT
Will the 378's replace all of the Richmond - Stratford services first, or will there also be some on the Euston - Watford line?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 18:37:03 GMT
According to the fleet manager travelling on the train (unit 007) yesterday, Stratford - Richmond/Clapham first, then Watford - Euston (the good old "d.c" to us dinosaurs!) from October/November-ish. We wait to see if this holds good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 22:29:59 GMT
The plan for next week is to have two in service and will be given circuits that end up on the Clapham shuttles during the off peak period, infact the train crew diagrams have already be done.
The Guard does not control the opening of the doors, the driver does.
The reason why the doors closed on left the Guard on the platform is because the unit had for some reason shut its computer system down which then takes a couple of minutes for it to reboot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 23:41:47 GMT
The plan for next week is to have two in service and will be given circuits that end up on the Clapham shuttles during the off peak period, infact the train crew diagrams have already be done. Sounds fun  , thanks for the heads up RMKeithy |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2009 7:54:00 GMT
One of the Willesden to Clapham shuttles today is booked to be a 378
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2009 11:52:55 GMT
Although ironically I think it was a pedestrian tunnel when built! Saying that it was either lucky, or foresight, that you could fit a full sized train through a tunnel designed for pedestrians. Yes! would've been interesting if Brunel had built it to Greenwich Foot Tunnel dimensions! It would now, presumably, be operated using deep-level tube stock. Where this would leave the whole LO extension project, I've no idea though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2009 12:05:51 GMT
The Guard does not control the opening of the doors, the driver does. I've noticed this with other electrostar-based stock as well. What's the point of this? |
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