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Post by Chris M on Mar 28, 2009 3:15:26 GMT
I didn't manage to get a decent photo of any when I was at the north end of the DC line on Monday, but from memory they are white on blue with a dashed yellow border.
Other photos I took suggest that there are no Class 378 stopping marks at Hackney Wick or Brondesbury, and I don't remember seeing any at Kentish Town West. I can't say for any other stations though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 12:41:33 GMT
There's a Capitalstar drag by GBRF booked for today. However, it's not in the direction you're all probably hoping for... 5Z77 Willesden Railnet Rec dep 1315 Harlesden Jn 1317 Willesden West London Jn 1319 Camden Jn 1323 Camden Rd 1326 Camden Rd E Jn 1330 Copenhagen Jn 1333 Finsbury Park 1336 Alexandra Palace 1340 Gordon Hill 1350 Hertford Nth 1406 Langley Jn 1420 Stevenage 1423 Hitchin 1426 Sandy 1438 Huntingdon 1453 Holme Jn 1513 Fletton Jn 1518 Peterborough 1523 Helpston Jn 1532 Manton Jn 1550 Oakham 1554 Melton Mowbray 1606 Syston East Jn 1618 Syston Nth Jn 1619 Sileby Jn 1623 Loughborough 1628 Spondon 1647 Derby 1653 1723 Derby Litchurch Lane arr 1728 Above gen obtained from se-gen. |
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 30, 2009 19:31:37 GMT
Does anyone know why has it gone back to Derby?
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Post by Colin on Mar 30, 2009 19:41:50 GMT
Pure guess - it was in London for testing and is now back at the manufacturer for a proper fit out out prior to entering service.
That is what usually happens to the first one or two trains of a new type/build anyway.
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 30, 2009 19:46:00 GMT
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 30, 2009 21:29:04 GMT
Don't believe anything until you see it....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 22:18:47 GMT
Don't believe anything until you see it.... Too true, I haven't heard of any recent report of the 5Z77 move to Derby, so i guess the move must be cancelled Anyways, here's some updates: Derby Litchurch Lane 378006 is between the buildings on London Road 378011 is behind the MGRs on Litchurch Lane 378012 is next to the Test Track 378013 is in front of 378006 Ta Frank Kutta from the Electrostars Yahoo Group |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 9:21:58 GMT
As there are now up to number 13 outside, I assume that there must be more on the production line inside. Any idea how many are (nearly) built now?
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 31, 2009 9:46:52 GMT
Half the fleet semi bulit and months behind schedule.. Lets hope that Bombardier can pull out all the stops and get the other half of the dual voltage order sorted asap....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 19:35:12 GMT
Half the fleet semi bulit and months behind schedule.. Lets hope that Bombardier can pull out all the stops and get the other half of the dual voltage order sorted asap.... Fingers crossed that they can get both sides fixed shortly. seems we are expect our 3rd to be with out soon. The 377 are all about the fact FCC TL need to run 8 car trains are we are over crowded but capacity can be increased by just additional rolling stock. Whats needed long term (hence ThamesLink Programme) extended platforms and even longer trains with upgraded signalling. 8 cars is about dealing with todays problems, the full TLP is about dealing with tomorrows problems. As for the 319s, they will go elsewhere to work because both them and the 377s will be unsuitable for the finished Thameslink. Basically we're going to get a load of 8 or 12 car walkthrough (a la S stock & 378s). This can only be achieved by getting in new stock with a brand new design. Interestingly our people are currently working with Crossrail's so what we order will turn up in 2017 on Crossrail. who ever wins our order is gonna get a huge load of work. |
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Post by dazz285 on Apr 1, 2009 8:21:33 GMT
There's a Capitalstar drag by GBRF booked for today. However, it's not in the direction you're all probably hoping for... 5Z77 Willesden Railnet Rec dep 1315 Harlesden Jn 1317 Willesden West London Jn 1319 Camden Jn 1323 Camden Rd 1326 Camden Rd E Jn 1330 Copenhagen Jn 1333 Finsbury Park 1336 Alexandra Palace 1340 Gordon Hill 1350 Hertford Nth 1406 Langley Jn 1420 Stevenage 1423 Hitchin 1426 Sandy 1438 Huntingdon 1453 Holme Jn 1513 Fletton Jn 1518 Peterborough 1523 Helpston Jn 1532 Manton Jn 1550 Oakham 1554 Melton Mowbray 1606 Syston East Jn 1618 Syston Nth Jn 1619 Sileby Jn 1623 Loughborough 1628 Spondon 1647 Derby 1653 1723 Derby Litchurch Lane arr 1728 Above gen obtained from se-gen. Well 378001 is still at Willesden TMD as of 19.10 last night |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 15:40:52 GMT
Well 378001 is still at Willesden TMD as of 19.10 last night Lets hope your 378s dont have the structrual problem our trains have developed tho Im also hearing that the 377/2 also have a simlar issue. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 23:37:15 GMT
378002 was spotted on the test track at the Derby site, FK
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Post by dazz285 on Apr 2, 2009 7:57:58 GMT
It's been on and off the test track for the past 7 months...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2009 8:14:26 GMT
Well 378001 is still at Willesden TMD as of 19.10 last night Lets hope your 378s dont have the structrual problem our trains have developed tho Im also hearing that the 377/2 also have a simlar issue. Please tell us more |
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Post by dazz285 on Apr 2, 2009 16:47:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 15:20:27 GMT
That is the last thing we want. Wait for months and a whole load of units come at once. When they arrive they all fall to pieces!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 21:35:52 GMT
That is the last thing we want. Wait for months and a whole load of units come at once. When they arrive they all fall to pieces! With any luck they will ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2009 15:30:14 GMT
There could be a chance that 378005 *might* come downstairs to Willesden on Thursday evening
*Not Guaranteed!*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 2:52:16 GMT
Will these trains retain Guards in trhe initial passenger running?
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Post by dazz285 on Apr 7, 2009 23:39:52 GMT
378005 should have been sent to Willesden on Wednesday 8th but a delay means that it will arrive on Wednesday 15th instead.
Guards will still be working them on the Richmond to Stratford and Willesden Junction to Clapham Junction lines..
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Post by maxtube on Apr 10, 2009 9:17:43 GMT
That is the last thing we want. Wait for months and a whole load of units come at once. When they arrive they all fall to pieces! With any luck they will ;D ;D I laughed so hard when I read that! ;D It's the 92TS again, next thing we know there'll be a derailment because on one unit the 'breaks' as they are according to Bombardier, will fall off onto the track! |
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 15, 2009 21:10:44 GMT
378005 should have been sent to Willesden on Wednesday 8th but a delay means that it will arrive on Wednesday 15th instead. Was 378005 delivered today? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 22:18:56 GMT
It is heading straight to Willesden right now
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Post by vitesse on Apr 18, 2009 9:42:48 GMT
Saw some translator wagons there yesterday so would assume its already there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 21:31:55 GMT
The problem with replacing the 313s is that the GN&City section can only take 6 car trains. Therefore something special will need to be done. The 315s could go though. I don't know what would replace the 313s on the Moorgate branch? Maybe new build 3 car dual voltage 377s. Could the 319s be reduced to 3 cars, by removing the trailer? They would be DTBS-Mpant-DTBS? isnt there a restriction on the types of emus that can run on the great nborthern service to moorgate due to tunnel clearance, if so i doubt a class 319 would be able to run besides i have heard that some of the class 319's are destined for use on merseyrail when withdrawn by first capital connect |
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 23, 2009 21:40:54 GMT
I think there is a restriction. Class 313 (and similar types) roofs seem to be flatter than most other units - look at a class 455/7. The ex class 508 trailer looks lower than the rest of the unit. I think the class 313s should eventually be replaced with a new type of 6-car unit with wide 'corridors' like a class 378 and a seating layout similar to S stock (as the FCC services run further away from London than Overground trains).
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