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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2009 6:39:40 GMT
I saw LO's new train unit no 378 001 come into and go from Richmond around 23.50 last night, running empty with test equipment inside.
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 19, 2009 14:55:34 GMT
It's been on test between Richmond and Stratford for a few weeks now.
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Post by carlovel1 on Mar 19, 2009 17:28:19 GMT
It's been on test between Richmond and Stratford for a few weeks now. More like months looking at the video below  |
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Post by Chris M on Mar 19, 2009 23:52:56 GMT
Could you post a link to the video please, as "embedding [is] disabled by request".
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Post by Colin on Mar 20, 2009 3:11:52 GMT
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 20, 2009 3:58:33 GMT
378001 has been on test since last October.. But only in the last month or so has it been going on the North London Line.
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Post by ghostofjk on Mar 20, 2009 17:24:47 GMT
Ah, I was going to ask if that was the train I saw very briefly heading North towards Willesden Junction as I headed South towards Acton at about 11:30 last night. Evidently it was, and my eyes were not deceiving me!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2009 12:32:16 GMT
There is another 378 drag on the cards today
DB Schenker Class 67006 to haul the 378 from Derby to Selhurst (for Comissioning)
Passes Olympia @ 1945
Ta TOL,MB
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 21, 2009 18:44:51 GMT
There is another 378 drag on the cards today DB Schenker Class 67006 to haul the 378 from Derby to Selhurst (for Comissioning) Passes Olympia @ 1945 Ta TOL,MB Is that 378002 (the other pre-production unit)? |
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 21, 2009 20:11:53 GMT
Blimey only 6 months behind schedule....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2009 23:24:50 GMT
There is another 378 drag on the cards today DB Schenker Class 67006 to haul the 378 from Derby to Selhurst (for Comissioning) Passes Olympia @ 1945 Ta TOL,MB Is that 378002 (the other pre-production unit)? Its not the 378, its 377504 for FCC, |
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 22, 2009 8:47:27 GMT
Oh! my hope have been dashed ;-) Never mind another few months won't matter ... :-(
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2009 10:58:35 GMT
The big question is if the ELL will open before the 378s arrive?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 22, 2009 16:28:13 GMT
The big question is if the ELL will open before the 378s arrive? Would they actually open it without the 378s being available?? |
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Post by metman on Mar 22, 2009 17:38:56 GMT
I doubt it! I don't know what other trains they could use? Spare 319s?
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Post by 100andthirty on Mar 22, 2009 17:42:37 GMT
Practically, there are no spare trains of any kind available. In principle, of course early class 378's could be diverted to ELL and 313's kept for a little longer. A look at the unholy mess around the late delivery of class 377s for FCC illustrates the shortage of stock
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Post by metman on Mar 22, 2009 18:01:24 GMT
Use some class 314s from scotland which are of course overhead line only and would involve a large number of difficult stock transfers?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2009 18:17:49 GMT
I doubt it! I don't know what other trains they could use? Spare 319s? Spare 319? Nope! There isn't any spare DV rolling stock at the moment or FCC would have had more stock for our new timetable. That said by the time ELL opens there will be alot more stock floating around but the 378s should be in full swing by then. Why don't they just deliver the 378 as 4 cars now due to the delays? |
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Post by maxtube on Mar 23, 2009 20:30:42 GMT
So what will happen to the 319s when they are replaced by 377s?
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2009 21:12:22 GMT
Are they not working alongside the electrostars?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 21:22:59 GMT
Aren't the 319s being supplemented by the Electrostars.
When the Thameslink Programme is over, there will be a fleet of new trains for it. At that point the new 377s will be transferred to Southern (the interiors are to Southern spec.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 21:23:08 GMT
Are they not working alongside the electrostars? Yes - there are only a few (relatively) 377 Electrostars for FCC, which will do no more than supplement the 319s, until the new Thameslink trains appear in about five years |
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Post by maxtube on Mar 23, 2009 21:23:16 GMT
No idea, but I thought the idea was to have a brand new fleet?
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2009 21:26:23 GMT
T would have thought the 319s are not ready for withdrawal in 5 years - so where will they go?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 21:38:45 GMT
Presumably to replace the 313s and other units of that era.
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2009 21:52:30 GMT
The problem with replacing the 313s is that the GN&City section can only take 6 car trains. Therefore something special will need to be done. The 315s could go though. I don't know what would replace the 313s on the Moorgate branch? Maybe new build 3 car dual voltage 377s. Could the 319s be reduced to 3 cars, by removing the trailer?
They would be DTBS-Mpant-DTBS?
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Post by maxtube on Mar 23, 2009 21:59:02 GMT
Noooo! They can't and won't replace any 313/315/317s!
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Post by metman on Mar 25, 2009 19:42:31 GMT
I noticed the class 378 stopping marks are in place on the DC lines platforms.
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Post by dazz285 on Mar 26, 2009 7:51:05 GMT
Shame that as they are running behind schedule that they will be introduced on the Richmond to Stratford & Willesden Junction to Clapham Junction lines first..
Also can you imagine how hard it will be to get that stop board positioned in the drivers side window... The cab window is about A5 size... ouch!! Lets just hope that the GPS is forgiving...
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 27, 2009 22:55:07 GMT
I noticed the class 378 stopping marks are in place on the DC lines platforms. What do these stopping marks look like, and are there any on the other lines yet? |
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