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Post by rsdworker on Nov 8, 2011 15:49:44 GMT
The TfL project page says that Blackfriars tube station will gain step free access: www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/11207.aspxNot sure about the December 2011 line diagram which D Stock has photographed. Perhaps the diagram is inaccurate, or perhaps the step free access won't be completed until a later construction phase; later than December 2011. somewhere back in this thread there was mention about lifts to all platforms which won't be avaible which i had quoted and linked to press release at FCC site
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 8, 2011 12:16:17 GMT
The old lift is still there. There wouldn't be anywhere to put a stairlift reasonably anyway. Incidentally the platforms have got humps now! oh - so where was new lifts? cause i thought its was next to old ones?
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 19:59:07 GMT
They are currently being installed and behind some blue hoarding oh that location is same place where old lift went? cause maps show wheelchair symbol still exists so means old lift will decommison after new lifts installed? but if old lift has already removed and how wheelchairs get upstairs? like stairlift as tempoary transport between ticket hall and platforms
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 16:57:33 GMT
in other thread which we dissuced most of shephard bush station the issue with step free access quote - yeah but its a other shameful - i think TFL could installed a incline lift next to escalator - more cheaper and less costly those are used in stockholm stations and few others and also some planned in london (crossrail) but this really belongs to central line forum And what would happen at the bottom of the escalators? There are still the same old stairs, with a slight curve, to take passengers to the actual platform level, the new escalators (and staircase) only goto an intermediate landing. I would imagine that this bit, from the landing to the platforms, was the expensive area to alter. there shoudl be been a alternates such direct lift from street level at different location with ticket barrier at platform level some stations in other places have direct lift to platforms whereabouts escalators take long path to ticket hall there one exists at liverpool lime street on merseyrail where lift goes directly to platforms (there is no barriers at platform level from lift lobby) avoiding having three separate lifts - one from station to subway then subway to ticket hall then ticket hall to platform but in other countries such central station in asterdam and rotterdam have this example and also in USA well
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 16:40:26 GMT
yeah but its a other shameful - i think TFL could installed a incline lift next to escalator - more cheaper and less costly those are used in stockholm stations and few others and also some planned in london (crossrail) but this really belongs to central line forum And what would happen at the bottom of the escalators? There are still the same old stairs, with a slight curve, to take passengers to the actual platform level, the new escalators (and staircase) only goto an intermediate landing. I would imagine that this bit, from the landing to the platforms, was the expensive area to alter. yeah that's would be hard but i put the soutions in thread in central line board - link below Mods - please free move any central line station access related to districtdave.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=thecentralline&thread=17979
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 0:25:10 GMT
only few stations can't be have lifts when its was reconstructioned - shephard bush (lift not installed) Lifts were planned at Shepherd's Bush, but due to the excessive costs involved in getting the shafts from the surface to the platforms, they were removed from the rebuild. I'm sure that if the rebuild had included a new platform, then lifts would have been included. yeah but its a other shameful - i think TFL could installed a incline lift next to escalator - more cheaper and less costly those are used in stockholm stations and few others and also some planned in london (crossrail) but this really belongs to central line forum
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 7, 2011 0:22:45 GMT
Ok on topic. Will Blackfriars tube get a white blob or a blue blob? According to D Stock, neither! tinyurl.com/d67cjbswoah that other fail - TFL needs make sure its present - a mistake for step free access
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 6, 2011 19:11:43 GMT
And the step-free access for those who need it. (Logically, since every LU reconstruction project after Angel is step-free) only few stations can't be have lifts when its was reconstructioned - shephard bush (lift not installed)
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 5, 2011 21:23:17 GMT
Not the first time... there have been other weekend closures this year that have resulted in a Tower Gateway - Mudchute service. It's unusual though, not sure why they don't just reverse at Crossharbour. crossharbour only used if mudchute isn't avaible
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 4, 2011 22:56:45 GMT
Just bring back the old signaling system with manual driving much less complicated. Because there were no signal failures on the line prior to the introduction of TBTC, were there? its was therer few normal older signal failures - i recall correctly before TBTC
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 4, 2011 9:45:37 GMT
from wiki - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathrow_Terminals_1,_2,_3_tube_station so i was wondering if anyone has seen new lifts cause i remember this station had lift but very small lift (its was hidden away behind the doors at one end of platform - the staff had to take me in lift cause its wasn't step free lift - its was staff lift requiring person to press button at bottom of platform escalators so anyone has photos of new lifts? edit - added link to the quote
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 3, 2011 18:43:27 GMT
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 2, 2011 16:47:33 GMT
Perhaps issues with CSDE, and/or one or two units having issues with picking up power and so keep stopping/starting? yeah and also doors well i think
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 2, 2011 16:41:44 GMT
oh - what was issues?
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 31, 2011 22:05:09 GMT
wow that's much updated with new trains and new interior of stations
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 29, 2011 13:13:06 GMT
my views that station needs new lifts for older people and disabled people and prams - TFL needs step up the step free access
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 24, 2011 20:38:43 GMT
looks like they photshopped i think but not sure
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 24, 2011 19:15:50 GMT
looks amazing
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 21, 2011 10:01:22 GMT
its removed already when old platforms closed in 1999
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 19, 2011 11:41:30 GMT
the jubbiee is direct - just few mins walk to each platforms
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 17, 2011 20:26:05 GMT
Went through Blackfriars today, after the hoardings were finally removed over the weekend. Quite a difference now, compared to the earlier pics! - floor tiles almost finished - large white 'Victoria Line' style tiles on walls - false ceiling installed - fire doors to emergency exit visible - overhead signage up but covered - roundels up on platform walls! Looks as if 18 December will be achievable after all! Correct me if I'm wrong, but the sheeting and scaffolding protecting the workers from passing trains were installed during an engineering possession? Therefore, will it not have to be removed during an engineering possession? I've just checked the six month track closures and there are no closures scheduled of that section of line for any weekend in December. normally they put on platform edges - simllar to Tottenham Court Road northern platform so once the work is done they dismatle it from platform side not track side
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 17, 2011 17:46:10 GMT
Went through Blackfriars today, after the hoardings were finally removed over the weekend. Quite a difference now, compared to the earlier pics! - floor tiles almost finished - large white 'Victoria Line' style tiles on walls - false ceiling installed - fire doors to emergency exit visible - overhead signage up but covered - roundels up on platform walls! Looks as if 18 December will be achievable after all! amazing - we like to see photos of new look station
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 12, 2011 16:51:08 GMT
wow the engineers train normally comes out in night but its was seen in daytime
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 10, 2011 15:22:28 GMT
inteserting find - i never seen doors open on wrong side - when that happeend?
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 9, 2011 19:18:19 GMT
that's for hammersmith line testing - i am fair sure
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 5, 2011 13:38:48 GMT
that's why i prefer the simllar one to overground one which is more better for trainwash but central and jubbiee/northern have trainwash that works with outer hung doors - i am not sure about jubbiee that uses neasdon - there any other trainwashes that can wash S stock?
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 2, 2011 14:26:11 GMT
hmm - where the new step free goes to? cause fomer step free entrance is closed now so you have any photos posted? - its could be new entrance somewhere either from jubbiee line or northern line/bakerloo lines or from existing ticket halls (bank has no step free from waterloo to street - one is being built)
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 2, 2011 11:58:11 GMT
I do wonder what would happen if someone in a wheelchair got on the train at Bank (easy enough with the travelators) and arrived at Waterloo to find the lift out of order? Would they be allowed to go via the depot to the departure platform and exit via the ramp? i thought waterloo had new lift for wheelchairs from arrivals but i think you mistaken - the departures has ramp and arrivals has stairs acoordling to directenquiries but i feel this is outdated - there no updated scoure of step free routes so anyone has light on this i think there was used be step free route to waterloo was via Former eurostar station - i can't recall
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 1, 2011 10:58:03 GMT
Presumably to minimise disruption to roads, businesses and people wanting to use bank station/the northern line. There is also so much legislation that seems to delay infrastructure projects these days, all in themselves well meaning. (Thinks like Working Hours, Noise overnight H&S etc.) Recently the local authority closed a fairly major road in the town every night for a week and a half to put a new hand rail on a pedestrian overbridge. that's a silly closure for just handrails - they should know better
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 27, 2011 16:11:18 GMT
As MRFS has said, it's a bit of a wide question but on the following stocks this is what I know. 1967 stock: Some were double ended and therefore yes, when they were swapped round from time to time. The non equipped ones - never as they were a mix of 1967 and 1972mkI cars and were not fitted with ATO equipment. 1972 stock: On their days on the Northern yes, they were frequently used, and the four car units were built to be about to couple from the either end to the 3 car set which only have a cab at one end. Now on the Bakerloo, the middle cabs are fixed and with no OPO equipment they would not be used in service. 1973 stock: The middle cabs are all opperational and do see service. 1992 stock: It is uncommon to see middle cabs on the Central Line but those that are seen a mixture of cabs which are functioning and those that have been robbed for spare parts (even drivers seats). There is a thread on the Central Line page re this point. 1995/6 stock: Do not have middle cabs 2009 stock: Do not have middle cabs A60/62 stock: Red painted car ends in the middle of trains can be used in passenger service and are, but those which white/blue fronts do not have the door buttons and other equipment for OPO and are not used in service. They can be seen on turning trips to Watford/Rickmansworth on occasion and in this case the driver can drive the unit from this end, without passengers of course. C69/77 stock: All middle cabs are usable and are used in service when not coupled in the middle of trains. D78 stock: See 1973 stock response. Hope this helps. btw you forget the S stock - they don't have middle cabs
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