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Post by maxym on Oct 7, 2012 18:00:59 GMT
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Post by maxym on Oct 2, 2012 14:51:47 GMT
The only downside of the day was the farce at Amersham with the event stand. It would have been better to have that at Wembley Park after the tour finished which would have allowed people plenty of time to browse, instead of trying to get through 400 people in 45 minutes. It simply didn't work and after queing for 20 odd mins and time running out for the train departure I didn't even get near the stand as the crowd was several people deep. Totally under resourced for the task at hand. That "vocal" lady was right in her views. Irish Underground. Whoever pre planned that obviously didn't have their brain engaged. As for the 'vocal lady' who pushed her way to the front, repeatably saying to anyone in her way "I'm before you" tried to push in front of me and a blind man standing next to me. I replied "no you're not" and it was then she started jumping up and down shouting and waving her arms about. I made sure the blind man was served before me and then purchased my large luggage rack and only just made it back to the train. By the way I recognised the woman from last Wednesdays A stock run making a nuisance of herself in the train. 'Vocal lady'? Don't sound no lady to me...
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Post by maxym on Sept 30, 2012 21:11:11 GMT
[/quote]The brake release is always one thing i've loved, it just sounds brilliant! What did the spoked wheels sound like?[/quote]
Ooh, difficult to describe... The monoblocs give off a sort of thin metallic hum (listen to a Mk 1 or 2 BR coach. The spoked ones were more neutral.
Can anyone else help here?!
BTW, in many cases the sound of a train (or a bus - but rarely so these days) is an important part of the travelling experience. I mean, on an EMU you have to be in a motor car, right? Those CO/CPs were amazing. Some of the old unmodified Berlin S-bahn units came pretty close too.
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Post by maxym on Sept 30, 2012 19:27:03 GMT
Ah, no more A stock: end of an era... I missed the 26/9 runs (business in Zurich) and missed photographing the farewell tour because I assumed it was today lol. Oh well, I have my memories... And the best are of the 'silver' era when a Fast Amersham or Fast Aldgate really was fast - motoring downgrade from Amersham to Ricky, rocketing through the Up fast platform at Wembley Park and an exhilarating ride over the points at Neasden in either direction. I was really pleased to learn (and see on video) of the 'lively' run down from Kilburn; I can remember a few of those... Can any Forum members remember when A stock was 'noisy', that is when the gear drives from the traction motors weren't so 'sweet' as they are today? A stock was never as loud as CO/CP but could still sound pretty damn' good... A few other things. I always avoid trailer cars, but especially on A stock: compressors so noisy. The monobloc wheels of the latter years sound different from the original spoked ones. And that very distinctive 'pure' sound when the brakes are released (as heard on Matt's video); lovely. And the A stock going is another opportunity lost to hear that great sound of the Westinghouse brake from the front part of the front car. Sad days...
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Post by maxym on Sept 23, 2012 16:54:10 GMT
If the Metropolitan Line were to be extended to Barking or Upminster would it be renamed the Bow And Harrow line? Very good. ;D
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Post by maxym on Aug 8, 2012 17:04:12 GMT
Oh look a gold medal for Team GB in porcine aviation. Very good!
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Post by maxym on Jun 28, 2012 21:32:57 GMT
appears to be off to the great scrapyard in the sky tomorrow That'll be the scrapyard, then. Sky???
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Post by maxym on Nov 21, 2011 20:56:38 GMT
Is there a middle cab on any Central line services? I'm sure I saw one the other day. One running today. Set no 113.
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Post by maxym on Oct 13, 2011 15:12:37 GMT
Many thanks Castlebar. New siding to me (haven't been down that way for ages). Carto.metro excellent too!
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Post by maxym on Oct 7, 2011 17:32:39 GMT
Back to topic... Is there a siding at West Ham (as well as the bay platform at Plaistow)? What's the layout round there? Nothing on my Trackmap (Book 5, 3rd edition).
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Post by maxym on Oct 5, 2011 18:39:04 GMT
I think the deep-level tube lineas are hotter than thye were 25-30 years ago (for the reasons stated in some of the earlier posts). Agree (assuming you can remember back that far)?
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Post by maxym on Oct 5, 2011 18:35:40 GMT
Depending on the car 30 mpg (1.6l 170 bhp), 30 mpg (3.6l 345 bhp), 47 mpg (2.0l, 165 bhp). Care to have a guess at the cars? (All 05 or later.)
OP: Is this thread interesting/helping?
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Post by maxym on Oct 5, 2011 18:24:13 GMT
Thanks guys; fascinating stuff. Especially as one of you loves the Westinghouse and another hates it. I'll need to read up to understand some of the tech bits though...
I was able to watch the driver of the 1938TS on its afternoon southbound runs during the Amersham Heritage day event the other week. He used the Westinghouse on a few occasions to control speed, but relied on the EP for station and signal stops. Very nice to see - and hear - a bit of variety.
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Post by maxym on Oct 2, 2011 20:03:56 GMT
I did a search on this which turned up nothing - which I can't believe... But here goes.
I generally aim to travel in the first part of the front car and just love it when the Westinghouse brake is used. I can't put my finger on why but it's undoubtedly to do with the sound which somehow makes the journey more involving for the interested traveller.
Am I right in thinking that, compared to the EP, the Westinghouse is slower-acting and less responsive? Which is why it's rarely used...?
Is it still a requirement that the Westinghouse (assuming it's fitted) should be used once on every trip? I notice that relatively often it;s used at Euston Square on the Circle (though it's pretty silent on C stock)?
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Post by maxym on Oct 2, 2011 19:50:39 GMT
It must be pretty terrifying traveling at 70mph on a A stock! The faster the better for me. Bring back the days of flying through Wembley park SB still motoring after the descent from Harrow and some rock 'n' roll over the points at Neasden. (Weak field flag up obviously. Or of motoring - rather than coasting - downgrade from Amersham to Ricky. And I remember a brilliant trip from Finchley Road on a fast Uxbridge that was full power all the way. We absolutely flew down from Dollis Hill to Neasden. All really exhilarating stuff. As was a power-on trip downhill from Theydon Bois to Debden with 1962 stock. But my most memorable run was from Charing Cross to Dagenham East one mid-weekday evening on a CO/CP stock train in the late 70s. The driver had the controller open all the way all the time unless he was braking. The top speeds were as you'd expect from a seven-car train of CO/CP (six cars motored) but the speeds round the curves and the rapid entries into stations were something else. And of course the noise was fantastic (no stock since has come close IMO)! I seriously wonder whether the driver had had a drink or three... No matter: it's one I'll never forget.
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Post by maxym on Oct 2, 2011 19:17:19 GMT
There are too many voices on the Underground, too many announcements throughout stations and on trains. It IS noise pollution.
Telling us all that 'there is a good service operating on London Underground' is taking positive PR much too far.
Why tell us that the train in the platform is 'calling at all stations to Hainault' (or some other deatination) when all trains stop at all stations?
And do the consytant exhortations of platform staff to 'stand clear of the doors and let people off', 'pass right down inside the carriages' and 'stand clear of the closing doors' really speed up station dwell times? 99.9% of passengers are old hands at this stuff anyway and human nature means that they won't do the sensible things - and in any case are resistant to instruction.
It's as though these people don't feel as though they are doing their job properly unless they're talking at max.
And it's 'cars' for god's sake! The word has served the Underground well for decades and there's no need to change it now.
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Post by maxym on Aug 15, 2011 12:39:14 GMT
Just seen a mate's facebook status update and he seems to think 5000 could be the next to go. I certainly hope not. Saw 5000 in service NB at Neasden yesterday.
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Post by maxym on Jul 2, 2011 7:30:30 GMT
Some super pics on there. (Thumbs-up smiley)
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Post by maxym on Jun 29, 2011 7:54:06 GMT
I remember your posters on the last day in service of CO/CP stock. Nice touch, I thought. And a great day BTW. Loved your CO/CP pics on Flickr. I thought those trains were aqbsolutely fabulous - especially the noise! Nothing to touch them since I'm afraid. I was on that farewell tour. Lovely stuff; thanks. (I'll see what other gems you have on Flickr!)
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Post by maxym on Jun 29, 2011 7:14:28 GMT
It looks like the only units left in service are the (ugly) double-ended ones... True? (I guess that would aid operational flexibility.) Is it worth hoping that two single-enders will be used for the final trip(s)? Any chance that the times of the last workings will be posted on here (I don't think I've missed them...)? Look in the other thread! ah, found it! Thanks.
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Post by maxym on Jun 28, 2011 19:56:32 GMT
It looks like the only units left in service are the (ugly) double-ended ones... True? (I guess that would aid operational flexibility.)
Is it worth hoping that two single-enders will be used for the final trip(s)?
Any chance that the times of the last workings will be posted on here (I don't think I've missed them...)?
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