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Post by Chris M on Nov 19, 2022 19:35:14 GMT
Location B: Abbey Road - replacement bus stop [Chris M] (click for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 19, 2022 12:11:58 GMT
South Woodford is a long way from location A, Tooting Broadway is quite close to location C
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Post by Chris M on Nov 19, 2022 12:09:26 GMT
This is not London Overground infrastructure
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Post by Chris M on Nov 18, 2022 23:36:49 GMT
The 2021 social was advertised as starting at 2pm. The finishing time is a lot less easy to predict, but my memory of past events suggests some time between about 6pm and 11pm
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Post by Chris M on Nov 18, 2022 21:11:52 GMT
This location is not near Watford, does this help? (click for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 17, 2022 13:55:01 GMT
You just have to find a station that has had a delivery recently. Each station gets a delivery of the map when it identifies that its stocks are getting low, then continues putting out that map until it has used all of its stock, when it orders more, etc. I presume each delivery is of a whole number of standard-size boxes, but how many maps are in each box and how many boxes are delivered each time I don't know (the latter may vary). So a quiet station that had a delivery just before a new map was issued will not have copies of the latest map for quite some time (possibly ever if it's a short-interval map), while stations that need more maps just after a printing will have the latest issue much sooner. I know of no way to predict which stations are which, beyond stations that serve large numbers of visitors to London being statistically more likely to give out more maps than average and stations that primarily serve commuters will be least likely to have the new maps.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 17, 2022 10:55:36 GMT
Answer: Between Canary Wharf (Crossrail) and Custom House - Limmo Shaft headhouse during evacuation excercise in February 2022 (click image for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 17, 2022 10:55:08 GMT
The pot of money is both finite and significantly smaller than it was, so it has to prioritised somehow. While neither Debden nor Buckhurst Hill stations are great, someone who needs step-free access can use them and be reasonably near their destination. The same is not true if one's destination is in e.g. the Ruislip area.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 17, 2022 2:07:39 GMT
Just a single part question today (click for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 17, 2022 2:06:55 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Nov 16, 2022 19:27:37 GMT
The reason step-free access has taken a bit of a back seat recently is mostly the budget issues, but also TfL has been running a consultation on which types of stations should be prioritised. The result (as noted in the article linked at the top of this thread) was a slight preference for adding step-free access in areas that don't have any rather than making other areas step-free hubs. If followed-through then that would deprioritise Loughton, being adjacent to both Debden and Buckhurst Hill.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 16, 2022 12:23:27 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Nov 15, 2022 21:16:50 GMT
The original plan for Terminal 5 was to build it where the cargo terminal now is, and the Piccadilly line loop was built so that a station could be added here (between the "Heathrow Loop" and "12/04/1986" labels on Carto Metro), trains would run Hatton Cross, T4, T5, T123. The location where they did build T5 though means that it is not possible for a single line approaching from the north or east (or southwest) to serve all three terminal areas. Any single line would need to arrive at T5 from the west, run east to Central and then turn southeast to serve T4 with the stations at the latter being approximately perpendicular to the present ones. It would though be possible (topographically at least) to continue to Feltham.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 15, 2022 21:05:17 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Nov 14, 2022 19:51:54 GMT
Link: These are all one word stations with a National Rail interchange
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Post by Chris M on Nov 14, 2022 11:31:44 GMT
This is getting a long way off the original topic, but the issue with "good service" is that it isn't granular enough. There are two strands to how well the service is performing - train intervals and journey time after boarding, to correctly cover all permutations you would need more than the current categories: Good service - gaps between trains and journey times are both about normal. Standard intervals - gaps between trains are about normal but journey times may be extended Standard journey times - journey times are about normal but some gaps between trains may be experienced Some extended gaps - the interval between some trains is noticeably greater than normal, but journey time is not significantly increased Extended gaps - It is likely you will need to wait longer for a train, but journey time between stations is not significantly increased and it's usually not worth diverting Very extended gaps - It is likely you will need to wait significantly longer for a train; it is recommended you seek an alternative route Slightly extended journey times - train intervals are about normal but journey times between stations are a bit higher than normal Very extended journey times - train intervals are about normal but journey times between stations are significantly longer than normal, it is recommended to seek an alternative route.
So a line status would be something like: Jubilee line: Very extended gaps; standard journey times Metropolitan line: Suspended between Aldgate and Baker Street; Very extended gaps with very extended journey times on the rest of the line Victoria line: Standard gaps; slightly increased journey times
However this would significantly increase the complexity of the statuses and would need to change more frequently as bunched trains moved along the line.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 14, 2022 11:08:29 GMT
Answer: Between Leyton Midland Road and Walthamstow Queen's Road - bridge over Leyton High Road (click for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 14, 2022 2:48:49 GMT
There are indeed three parts to the link, you've correctly identified two of them
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Post by Chris M on Nov 13, 2022 20:14:33 GMT
Location B: Greenford - view from top of escalators in July 2010 [ londonstuff] (click for a larger version) So what is the link between Richmond, Greenford, Slough and Victoria?
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Post by Chris M on Nov 13, 2022 0:31:38 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Nov 13, 2022 0:27:58 GMT
Location D: Victoria - escalators to new ticket hall in January 2017 [ londonstuff] (click for a larger version) Still looking for location B and the link
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Post by Chris M on Nov 12, 2022 13:31:53 GMT
Sorry for the late start, I'm not sure why Colin didn't post this one when they normally do, but it's just a single part question so hopefully wont be too tricky for you. (click for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 12, 2022 13:28:56 GMT
D is not Tottenham Court Road.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 11, 2022 12:12:56 GMT
The step-free tube guide is a good thing that should be promoted and available equally as widely as the main tube map, but it doesn't cater to those who can handle escalators but not stairs, nor those who can handle steps but not long walks. The point is to show all that on one map is not possible, so there needs to be a series of accessibility maps, so there is no need to have the misleadingly oversimplified accessibility information on the main map.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 11, 2022 2:30:17 GMT
My view is that the people who most benefit from it are those unfamiliar with London, who will primarily be tourists or other visitors. Bearing in mind that many of them wouldn't go outside the central area, is there really a need to show DLR or Trams? Trams are arguable, but for tourists the DLR, Overground and Elizabeth line are no different to tube lines from a practical point of view. Canary Wharf, Greenwich, Stratford, Custom House and London City Airport are destinations of at least equal importance to the likes of Camden, Shepherd's Bush, Hammersmith and Wembley. For a central area map, my limits would be as on the map below. It looks very messy like this, but obviously a proper map would adjust everything to make best use of the space. Looking at it again though, I'm not sure that anything south of West Brompton, or north of Willesden Junction Finsbury Park, or Hackney Downs (LO) is needed? Belsize Park definitely isn't needed, so could be omitted if that helps clarity in that part of the map, similarly Surrey Quays. Chalk Farm is needed because Camden Town station can't cope with the crowds, Prince Regent is needed for Excel East.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 10, 2022 11:24:27 GMT
There is currently no service on the entire Jubilee line due to the strike action, but for some reason the TfL updates feel the need to note separately that Canary Wharf station is closed, but not any other station only served by the Jubilee. Canada Water is noted as "part closed" because London Overground trains are not stopping. It's actually fully closed as there is no Jubilee line service either. Similarly it specifically notes Battersea Power Station and Stemford Brook as closed despite there being no service anywhere near them, but doesn't note the same for any of the other hundred plus stations in the same situation (Oxford Circus, Southwark, Hammersmith, Rayners Lane, Finchley Road, etc, etc) Why these stations in particular?
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Post by Chris M on Nov 10, 2022 10:55:32 GMT
The issue I have with the current map is accessibility. Not because that info shouldn't be available or isn't important, but because the current presentation is simultaneously too complex and not complex enough to be useful to many people.
Assuming I need step-free access the present map tells me I can easily get from Southwark to Bank with a simple interchange at London Bridge. Except I can't, because the step-free interchange at London Bridge requires exiting the station, walking several hundred metres at street level (without signage) before re-entering the same station. The same map tells me that Oxford Circus and Baker Street are completely off-limits to me, but in reality there are plenty of interchanges that I can use them for.
The map shows no indication of walking distances. For example using the step-free route to interchange between the Victoria and Northern lines at King's Cross requires a choice of a very long walk that includes passing through two gatelines (with no indication you wont be charged twice) or a short staircase. For some people the latter is much easier, especially off-peak when there is plenty of space to take the stairs slowly.
It also makes no attempt to cater to those who can manage one or two small steps but not a flight of stairs, or those who are fine on escalators but not fixed stairs. The separate avoiding stairs map does provide this information, along with the vertical and horizontal gap between the train and the station. And herein lies the answer - stop trying to make a one-size-fits-all map and instead produce multiple maps tailored to different needs and promote and distribute them equally.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 10, 2022 10:23:27 GMT
Background: Library, Kenwood House in January 2020 [Chris M] The image above is unmodified.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 9, 2022 13:31:12 GMT
Location C: Between Harlesden and Stonebridge Park - view northwest from Acton Lane in August 2017 [Chris M] (click for a larger version)
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Post by Chris M on Nov 8, 2022 22:27:28 GMT
I walked past the new Cannon Street entrance at the weekend. Still seems like a fair bit left to do. Not least of which is filling in the gargantuan hole in the ground behind the station building. I assume that's not actually a prerequisite for opening as I would guess it's for the piles / foundations / basement of the new block that's going on top. The note on the newly released tube map strongly implies that the entrance is due to open in "late December 2022". Given that this just text in a notes panel this would be very easy to change right before going to press, so can be taken as an up-to-date expectation.
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