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Post by norbitonflyer on May 2, 2018 7:02:01 GMT
on the Core. Only 376/377/387 are allowed. All other eletrostars are barred from the Core. It seems odd that 377s are allowed and 375s are not, as they are essentially the same, at least for gauging purposes - indeed many 377s were originally classified as 375s.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 1, 2018 22:54:02 GMT
I've just been re-reading "Nortrhern Wastes" - interesting pictures of the unfinished Northern Line platforms at Finsbury Park, above where the bus staion now is.
See also Jay Foreman's informative (and highly entertaining) video
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 1, 2018 20:06:13 GMT
Comfy seats do seem to be possible - try a refurbished 458 (the downgraded 1st class seats)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 30, 2018 23:09:13 GMT
"we are not able to tell you how long the train will be"
Still 7 cars and about 116 metres I'd have thought. Sorry, now back to the Power Failure thread.. You jest, but my local TOC clearly is unable to tell us how long the train will be, as I quite often find I'm being told to travel in the first nine coaches of the train, and only eight coaches turn up.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 30, 2018 17:09:32 GMT
Nah - that's the LUL 4TC,. My mistake - I misread the numbers on the carriages.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 30, 2018 15:33:38 GMT
Whatever happened to the other 4TC set LUL owned for a bit back in the days of Steam on the Met? Now owned by the Swanage Railway. Here it is en route to its new owner last year
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 29, 2018 22:28:15 GMT
For those who don't know, the term "4TC" refers to one of the former Southern Region trailer units converted in the 1960s, from 1950s loco-hauled stock, to be used in push-pull mode on the Bournemouth and Weymouth line. Nice picture of the working on the "Railway Centre" website (29th April picture of the day)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 29, 2018 22:24:53 GMT
Looking at youtube "Motormans viewpoint views" on the New York subway, there are several items showing a rail grinding unit being hauled/propelled by a diesel loco at various locations. There are an awful lot of "Motorman's viewpoint" videos on You Tube. Could you be more specific - maybe provide a link to one of the items showing this?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 28, 2018 15:19:57 GMT
Still don't get how "GM grass" leads to Heyford
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 28, 2018 13:07:08 GMT
What has Henry Ford got to do with General Motors?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 28, 2018 8:47:30 GMT
Interestingly the icon used on Google Maps for Turnham Green is one of National Rail and not LU. Is there a history to this station...? The line through Turnham Green was owned by British Railways and its predecessors until 1950. Turnham Green was not originally part of the Underground, but, (like all the stations from Ravenscourt Park to Kew Gardens) was built as part of the London & South Western Railway's Hammersmith loop line from Addison Road (now Olympia) to Richmond which opened in 1869 (Ravenscourt Park opened a few years after the line was built). Connections with the Hammersmith & City Line and District Line opened in 1870 and 1877 respectively. The Midland and Great Western Railways also had running powers over this section, but by the end of World War 1 the District was the only passenger service left - the LSWR section between Adison Road and Ravenscourt Park being closed shortly afterwards. However, it was not until 1950 that ownership of the line between Ravenscourt Park and Turnham Green was formally transferred from British Railways to London Transport.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 28, 2018 8:28:43 GMT
Reliability is massively more important than having the latest features, upgrades are limited to only what is required and they are thoroughly tested before being applied. Like the TSB?? The driver for change at TSB was the regulator's requirement that it be separated from its old parent company (Lloyds) and migrate to its new Spanish parent company's system. I doubt they would have bothered otherwise.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 26, 2018 15:38:17 GMT
If there is an empty seat why should you have to give up yours? . Some seats are easier to get into and out of than others - they are usually* the ones that are identified as Priority seats. Thus, it makes sense that the person sitting in the priority seat should be prepared to be give theirs up (unless their need is greater), whether or not there are other seats available. (*although on some lines it is difficult to see why they have been chosen)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 26, 2018 6:12:14 GMT
Factory Junction, seen from Wandsworth Road station
1 is Blakedown, 4 is Banbury
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 25, 2018 19:54:11 GMT
Certainly on Thameslink, although there are gaps in the painted-on vehicle numbers in the eight car class 700 sets (numbered 401xxx,402xxx,403xxx,406xxx,407xxx, 410xxx,411xxx, 412xxx) , the "available seats" indicators refer to them as cars 1 to 8, not cars 1,2,3,6,7,10,11,12
EDITED FOR CLARITY
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 25, 2018 10:08:33 GMT
I used to resent being told to stand so adults could sit down. I make an exception for small children who can't reach the straphangers, but except them not to occupy a whole seat each if they are that small (e.g three on a double seat). When they were small I would always insist mine sat on my lap if other passengers were standing.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 25, 2018 9:00:30 GMT
Aren't there some platforms at the western end of the line that won't take 9 cars? I seem to recall reading there was an issue with the bay at Hayes & Harlington. Maybe also some of the platforms on the fast lines on both the GEML and GWML which would be used if the slows are closed for engineering work.
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Guards
Apr 23, 2018 22:31:26 GMT
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 23, 2018 22:31:26 GMT
There were, I think, special NDMs with guards positions for the nine-car project on the Northern Line, as the guard ride on the seventh car of the train.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 23, 2018 11:21:41 GMT
What was the purpose of the run? Trials for Dieselisation? We had that on Tyneside. No, it was a track recording vehicle - this was before LU had built its own. Has there ever been a case of an electrified line changing to diesel operation? Tyneside, in the 1960s. The Heysham branch, also in the 1960s. Angerstein Wharf branch (and various SR sidings) when the "booster" class 71s were replaced by electrodiesel class 73s. Sheffield to Penistone (direct route - trains were later diverted via Barnsley) Newport to Shildon was converted to from electric to steam in the 1930s
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 22, 2018 15:44:16 GMT
was East Putney the only one where there was NO NR passenger activity? Southfields and Wimbledon Park were also BR stations with only LU services.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 21, 2018 21:14:53 GMT
Is each carriage length the same as the 345 units? Why only 2 doors and not 3 like on crossrail? Crossrail trains are designed for Tube-style services with minimum dwell time, at the expense of seating area. 710s are more conventional layout with only 2 doorways per side. I've learned my lesson - I won't plan a trip to try out new rolling stock until I have heard reports that they are actually in service. (And I've still not actually been on a 345!) Likewise certain people who have made two abortive trips to Kenilworth (still not open at the time of writing)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 21, 2018 21:10:03 GMT
The management of the stations may have changed, but I understand the track and signalling is still NR's. There is precedent on the Wimbledon line, where the line itself is now owned by LUL, but still uses NR signalling.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 20, 2018 12:08:21 GMT
Looks good, but why no red buffer beam? After all, that's how you knew a train was coming! It is coming - very fast, so it's been Doppler shifted to orange!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 19, 2018 6:36:31 GMT
Things are changing though - I doubt anyone will be building any more trolleybus networks now that practical self-contained electric road vehicles, in particular buses are available with sufficient battery range for normal daily use. Battery technology is not yet that far advanced, which is explains why diesel hybrid buses exist and 'in motion charging' of battery equipped trolleybuses is becoming ever more popular (hopefully coming to London too). Battery technology has advanced far enough for several London bus routes to be battery powered (not hybrid). At least one route also runs hydrogen fuel-cell powered buses. In motion charging of trolleybuses could be a useful way of extending existing trolleybus networks, but I can't see it coming to London - London has not had any trolleybus infrastructure for over fifty years.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 19, 2018 6:23:37 GMT
Especially in the early days, maybe through ticketing became possible after 1933? Fare agreements between the Underground Group and other Tube lines (CSLR, CLR, GN&CR) started in 1907, and the CLR became part of the Underground group (which of course included the District) in 1913
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 18, 2018 14:27:51 GMT
Yes there are some moves around battery technology / hydrogen power / whatever but most rational railway people the world over support the use of electrification. I think the whole "bi-mode" / new tech to the rescue thing is part of postponing assumed infrastructure maintenance costs for an electrified railway. Things are changing though - I doubt anyone will be building any more trolleybus networks now that practical self-contained electric road vehicles, in particular buses (and now taxis), are available with sufficient battery range for normal daily use. Is there any reason to suppose that technology can't be transferred to rail? (Wouldn't be the first time road technology was adopted by rail - the GWR railcars were based on London Transport's Q-type buses)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 18, 2018 11:50:44 GMT
I don't know how you can kill off this "we're the management, you're the workers" attitude. Totally agree with you. But it seems to have always been like that. The "Them & Us" attitude is not unique to the rail industry. As a safety manager in another industry, it was my father's job to ensure safety requirements were adhered to, which meant ensuring the workforce knew the rules and in particular when a task couldn't be done because some safety issue needed fixing first. This was seen by some of his management colleagues as somehow helping the staff get one over on the management rather than, as he saw it, keeping the staff safe and, in the process, ensuring the management avoided prosecution.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 18, 2018 9:22:41 GMT
However for the wider context of future electrification projects, there does seem a strong case as affordability may also impact future plans for TFL rail for the Elizabeth line route and indeed the extension of GOBLIN to riverside. I doubt that changes in clearance requirements will affect either of these, as TfL Rail is already electrified, and the Goblin extension is partly over already-electrified track and partly new build on a viaduct.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 17, 2018 10:35:53 GMT
On this subject, why does the PIS at Kings Cross announce a west bound Met service as 'All stations' but then follow it with 'Calling at Finchley Road, Wembley Park'.... If its all stations why omit some? Finchley Road and Wembley Park are now the next two stations on the Met after Baker Street, but it was not always so. Since 1940 the stopping service has been supplied by the Bakerloo, and more recently the Jubilee. However, undertsand a few Met trains did serve some intermediate stations north of Finchley Road for some years (CULG suggests this happened as late as 2000), and this may be why trains which do not, although always in the vast majority, are identified. Such interworking is not now possible because of incompatible signalling systems. It is inconsistent if they omit Euston Square, GPS and Baker Street, although of course all trains do indeed call there. A similar situation exists on the Piccadilly which, certainly when I used it regularly, always displayed at Hammersmith and Acton Town "Not stopping at Ravenscourt Park, Stamford Brook, Turnham Green, Chiswick Park", except for the odd services which did. (Seeing "Turnham Green" not light up was always a welcome sight late at night)
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 16, 2018 12:51:01 GMT
The dispute, as I understand it, was not over whether the driver should have been disciplined, but whether the management followed due process in doing so. The rules are there to protect both sides - failure to follow them can lead to problems such as claims for unfair dismissal.
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