|
Post by zcap on Mar 24, 2017 0:27:02 GMT
Appreciate the speedy response. I thought it may be something like that, but it, the E diamond, is right next to the plain old diamond stopping marker, as in, the E marker is no further forwards or backwards from the blank diamond. Surely the blank one would suffice for the engineering purpose? They're not always in the same place as the diamond, and the engineers driver would be specifically authorised as far as the engineers stopping mark, so a sign is required, otherwise the driver would carry on until realising he or she had missed something! Oooh, I thought it was a case of blank diamond implies stopping marker for all trains. Thanks for that clarification. I guess it would be less then useful for a train to try and get in the Euston Loop and end up in Kings Cross doh!
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Feb 24, 2017 0:29:10 GMT
They are probably for the reversing manoeuvre which can be done via the "Euston Loop". The one with E is probably for Engineering trains. Appreciate the speedy response. I thought it may be something like that, but it, the E diamond, is right next to the plain old diamond stopping marker, as in, the E marker is no further forwards or backwards from the blank diamond. Surely the blank one would suffice for the engineering purpose?
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Feb 24, 2017 0:14:55 GMT
Are they at the usual stopping point for 09ts, or elsewhere? I messed up! I meant platform 6 Sorry...
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Feb 23, 2017 22:08:31 GMT
Hey there guys. Basically, I was on my way home today and at Euston I noticed that there are two diamond stopping markers on the floor,one either side of the fourth rail. Whats more unusual is that one of them (the one on the RHS of the fourth rail, nearer the platform) looked very shiny/new and had the letter E embossed on it. [The fact its an ATO line and has a new stopping marker was a head scratcher for sure]. So, any idea why there are two diamond stopping markers for Platform 6 and what does the E mean? Thanks
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Jan 21, 2017 13:15:41 GMT
It could be any number of things, and would be quite hard to suggest without hearing it. However, it's worth noting that 21099/100 has a distinctly different whine from the rest of the S stock - as the prototype unit it has a different set of motors. It's much higher pitched, and very noticeable. I have a feeling this might be the one I saw so thanks (I wasnt sure of the unit number)! I wasnt aware of its existance so the sound of its approach to Euston Square had me scratching my head.
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Jan 21, 2017 4:07:47 GMT
Was at Euston Square station around 4pm today, when a westbound train (a unit containing car 24021 I think), pulled in making a motor sound, very different from a S stock, much more akin to an Electrostars sound I thought. Also, I confirmed I wasnt hearing things because immediately after the Weird Westbounder stopped, my Eastbound S-Stock pulled in! I digress. But, does anyone have a clue what could have been the case for the weird sound?
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Jan 4, 2017 23:37:37 GMT
Hi all, Just wondered if the 25mph TSR is still up on open sections? Thanks It's 35mph during the day and it reduces to 25mph from 00:00 to 08:00. Cool thanks for that!
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Jan 4, 2017 22:04:37 GMT
Hi all, Just wondered if the 25mph TSR is still up on open sections? Thanks
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Nov 10, 2016 22:47:04 GMT
All the doors failed to close. It was suspected that one of the saloon door open buttons being pushed in was the issue. Porter buttons, the ones at each end of the cars that close the doors on that car didn't close them either. Train was about to move off very slowly with all doors open to Leytonstone when the doors then all closed. 27 minute delay. That explains the half hour wait at Mile End! A fun commute for sure, thanks for that
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Nov 7, 2016 20:23:24 GMT
Also, does anyone know the number of the points, I cant seem to remember. 36 points. Awesome, thanks
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Nov 7, 2016 20:13:07 GMT
Interesting that the photo shows the conductor rail on the platform side! As far as I can tell, thats because the points crossing from the inner rail to the outer rail, take up the space in the 6 foot meaning the outer (positive) conductor rail cannot be layed away from the platform edge. If you observe carefully, you can see that there are raised board on either side of the positive conductor rail to partially protect any person that falls on the tracks from making contact with the live rail. Either way, the positive conductor rail is only on the plaform side for the length of the points, and then goes back to being away from the platform. Hope that makes sense... Also, does anyone know the number of the points, I cant seem to remember.
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 13, 2016 23:55:50 GMT
Hi all! Ill keep this short, I was going home tonight, and got stuck at Mile End, waiting for a train with faulty doors at Leyton to be repaired. What happened tonight? I also wondered, could the driver not just have tipped out at Leyton and gone up to either Leytonstone middle platform or Woodford sidings empty? Im guessing this wreacked havoc with the evening service. Thanks all!
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 7, 2016 23:23:41 GMT
As this is in a Station, is it linked to trains drawing current when accelerating from a stand or vice versa? Sorry to revive a dead thread, but to answer your question, it, still, is due to trains passing the rail gap at A8400, which causes unusually blindingly bright arcing when a shoe passes over the short rail gap, apparently, indiscriminant of amount of traction drawn. I guess the height of the rail affects the arcing, what do you think. Ill have a look the next time I go to Cannon Street, see what I notice (the scientific method, woo!)
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 7, 2016 14:08:58 GMT
Its actually the same answer as your other query. districtdavesforum.co.uk/post/433222/threadThe door defect on train 56 at Gloucester Road caused a sufficiently large gap in the eastbound service that train 63 was reversed west to east at Aldgate East to fill this gap. Ahh, now I see. I noticed T056 was right behind the reverser, I didnt put 2+2 together. Eventful morning rush then...
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 7, 2016 13:15:36 GMT
I was on the H&C at Whitechapel at around 8:45 this morning heading Westbound and we were held for a good few minutes at Whitechapel due to a reversing train at Aldgate East. What happened?
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 7, 2016 8:40:55 GMT
7012 as part of T56 was empty/out of service at Aldgate East when I passed it around 8:55 this morning. Any clues why?
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 2, 2016 19:11:09 GMT
R2250 is a repeater for signal A2250 which is itself a draw up signal for the eastbound station starter A225. A2250 is located just past the crossover less than halfway along the eastbound platform. Ah! Ive never noticed A2250! Thanks for that. The number code did seem to imply it repeated a draw up signal, but I never knew it was there. Thanks for that!
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Oct 2, 2016 8:51:45 GMT
Passing on the inner circle a couple days back, I noticed R2250 not showing any aspect. Passing by it today, I noticed it was still not showing any aspect. This has got me thinking about two things. When do LUL replace burnt signal bulb?. And what actually is the function of R2250? Im assuming (since I cant remember the starter signal number) it repeats the outer circle starter signal at Farringdon, but whats the point of such a signal when trains all stop at Farringdon? Any insight/"logic" behind R2250, would be appreciated
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 28, 2016 3:58:10 GMT
Oops forgot to add if anyone goes there today it's currently showing a no red yes it been reported Gosh, now I feel inclined to treck across town to see that, hopefully before its fixed I gotta ask though, since technically, WC9 is a colour light signal, if such a move had to be done, say a Richmond to Upminster service, had to be turned short at West Ken for whatever reason back the way it came, could passangers be carried past WC9? I ask because WC9 isnt a shunt disc and im a tad confuzzled as to why it isnt :/
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 27, 2016 21:19:33 GMT
Btw, you can notice the FRL in the picture, reflecting off of the train body.
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 27, 2016 21:11:07 GMT
Now *that* is a good shot Thanks for that, ive been looking in completely the wrong place (down by the tracks, doh!) There is a fixed red light mounted to the tunnel wall just beyond the crossover. The reason for this, I imagine, is that the crossover and wrong road starter are not currently really set far back enough, which means, as you allude to, that trains reversing in platform 2 must draw out of the platform and stop at the stopping marks on the eastbound main, in order to get the rear of the train fully behind WC9 and to allow the crossover to release. One could, conceivably, forget to draw forwards (as is rumoured to have happened) and, unthinkingly, change ends and head off down the eastbound in the wrong direction. www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/route%20and%20track%20diagrams.htm#West%20Kensington%20and%20Lillie%20Bridge (bottom of the page) Indeed ive noticed the FRL and trainstop (I think), with much frustration. My interest on this signal was piqued by that article and that fateful Picc train, but after travelling Westbound on numerous occasions I never quite noticed the signal. Now I see why! Hardly the worlds best sighting position. But it definately is an interesting signal, I think. Talking of reversals, ive not noticed a S|R board along the EB main. Is there a plan to remove the crossover guarded by WC9 or has LU just not placed the provision for S stock reversals?
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 27, 2016 20:11:37 GMT
Now *that* is a good shot Thanks for that, ive been looking in completely the wrong place (down by the tracks, doh!)
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 27, 2016 19:41:04 GMT
Hi all. Call me blind but every time I pass by West Kensington, I try to spot the signal but have never quite managed to find it. Ive found the reversing stopping marker thats beyond WB31/34 (not sure if thats how you write it), so I assume the wrong road starter isnt right at the west end of the platform. Could anyone sort of describe where I should look? Thanks
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 13, 2016 20:02:21 GMT
As far as I'm aware there weren't any trap points in advance of (i.e. beyond/past/after) Minories Junction even in the last days of Aldgate cabin. There were trap points in rear of (i.e. on the approach to/before) Minories Junction just outside the Circle line platform (platform 1). It's actually a full trap road with buffer stops at the end. It's still there and I'm sure it's not going anywhere. Yes of course, I meant in advance of OB6 and indeed OB30 (in rear of minories junction. Doh!)! Indeed I have observed the current trap road. A nice precaution. I was wondering though the rumour was a bit off, there doesnt look to be any space beyond the Minories end of Platform 1 for another set of trap points. Thanks for the quick response!
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 13, 2016 19:55:45 GMT
Im sure someones said this above, but I think it would be rather nice if LU painted, or unpainted, a full set of D Stock for the final days of D Stock operation and the farewell tour. Especially since its the last of the 'proper' Sub Surface Stock im sure itd bring back some memories of days gone by.
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Sept 13, 2016 19:21:27 GMT
Great! Excellent answers! Thanks for all the responses! (And sorry for my late response) 😊
One further question (maybe slightly in advance of the original topic), I heard a rumour recently that, OB300 was introduced to remove a set of trap points in advance of Minories junction. Not sure how true this is though.
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Apr 14, 2016 3:22:54 GMT
To keep it short, the past few months, Ive noticed that there is intense arcing that occurs at the small gap in the conductor rail next to signal A8400. Any ideas whats causing it to discharge so violently so often? Problems with the rail? Or would it be problems with the section supply? Or something else? Thanks
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Apr 5, 2016 19:48:51 GMT
Hi all. I was on the Eastbound(Platform 1 I think?) Circle Line Platform at Aldgate earlier and noticed signal OB6 at danger, which was no suprise. I imagined its purpose would be that of a draw up signal and it would wait for the train to enter the platform and slow before clearing. It did do as expected but when it cleared, it cleared to a Yellow Aspect rather then a green, which confused me. This signal is a two aspect signal which implies that it can only display red and yellow aspects. Slightly further up the platform was signal OB300, the draw up signal for the Eastbound Starter Signal OB30, and I believe that OB300 could only show red and yellow too, but I am not too sure. Nontheless, OB300's function is obvious and is hinted at by its signal box code, but OB300 being able to only display a Red or Yellow aspect is less suprising. My questions are, is OB6 a draw up signal, and why is it numbered as OB6 rather then OB300a and have OB300 as OB300b, in a similar fashion to multiple home signals. If OB6 it is a draw up signal, why doesnt it have a green aspect? I know Circle line trains usually wait for District line trains to pass ahead of them but with at least two more signals and trainstops between OB6 and Minories Junction, surely the green aspect couldnt hurt. And finally is there else on the network where similar Red/Yellow signals are used? Thanks
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Feb 29, 2016 12:30:16 GMT
Awesome, thanks for the quick response So when did the Met trains stop running the very late night/early morning services over the slow lines?
|
|
|
Post by zcap on Feb 29, 2016 3:40:39 GMT
Hi all! So basically, for many years Ive been told by a *semi* reliable source that during some point in the early 90's (possibly even earlier), late night services over the section of the Jubilee line from Finchley Road to at least Wembley Park were served by A60/62 stock as opposed to the Jubilee's own 1983 stock. My problem is I cant find any images of this nor can I find any WTT where this move is timetabled. So my question is, did this really happen? And are there any photos? Thanks
|
|