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Post by londoner on Dec 15, 2018 21:10:25 GMT
Most z1 stations should have copies, as should all the Gateways. A polite email to Art on the Underground can often also result in a delivery. :-) Cheers. The reason I ask is because I try to avoid zone 1 and live in a region of London where night tube does not operate. I do use Earl's Court quite a bit but haven't noticed the new maps (or any for that matter). I'll try to check again next week. I'd prefer not to email because its just otherwise laziness on my part!
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Post by londoner on Dec 15, 2018 19:41:44 GMT
Does anyone know which stations, which don't have night tube, tend to stock the night tube map? Which station is it easiest to pick up a copy of the night tube map?
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Post by londoner on Dec 15, 2018 19:39:54 GMT
You can see a drivers eye view for most of the route here:
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Post by londoner on Dec 10, 2018 18:32:06 GMT
Anything can be classed as art, even a blank cover! So it’s actually impossible for art not to be on the front cover. Cue the discussion on philosophy! I was in the Tate modern the other day and there was an exhibit where the entire "painting" was simply one shade of colour. I can't remember if it was yellow or blue.
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Post by londoner on Dec 10, 2018 16:24:38 GMT
Is there any reason why the Special fares apply is missing from Watford Jct and Shenfield? Is it definitely not there or just difficult to see in the lighting with the current photos we have?
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Post by londoner on Dec 10, 2018 16:23:04 GMT
I don't believe its an appropriate place for politically motivated artwork. However I'm not sure whether its possible to make such a distinction.
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Post by londoner on Dec 9, 2018 22:45:57 GMT
The map posted on ianvists is different to the map posted on this thread around the Baker St area.
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Post by londoner on Dec 8, 2018 21:38:46 GMT
I think they've used more used of the space in the map at the top. They've also removed the key symbols box and put it at the back!
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Post by londoner on Dec 8, 2018 20:59:32 GMT
I think the artwork on the front of the map is hideous. Its just very jarring to me.
Some questions/ thoughts:
Why is the met line further away from the Jubliee line between Wembley park and Baker St? EDIT: It appears they've done this to link several stations together.
If you are going to add walking between stations, why is Sundbury Hill Harrow station not mentioned on the map? Its a one minute walk to Sudbury Hill. Why is the central line "straight" through the core again? Why are the TFL fares not listed clearly for the Heathrow services? Is Hanger Lane to Park Royal greater than a ten minute walk? Its probably near the cut off I guess. Same with North Ealing and West Acton. Why are Queensway and Bayswater not linked?
-Is West Ruislip further from the Picc/Met lines and closer to Ruislip? -Epping branch goes of at an angle now. -Cockfosters and Enfield Town branches are now at approx. the same height. They are closer to the edge of the map. -Chingford and Buckhurst Hill are no longer at the same height. -The British rail symbol at East Croydon now appears after the station name, rather than before. -The British rail symbol at West Ealing now appears below the station name. -Hayes and Harlington station now appears below the kink in the line (i.e.\ closer to heathrow block). -Several stations on the Piccadilly Heathrow branch have been re-positioned. -A small gap has been added between the overground/district lines on the Richmond branch. -The overground branches from Richmond and Clapham into Willesden Jn have been modified. -I think the distance between the central line West Ruislip branch and the Uxbridge branch has been modified slightly. -I think the Wimbledon branch has been moved slightly further downwards. - -West Brompton is further away from Ealing court. -The river, between Gunnersbury and Putney, might angle further down before changing back to the horizontal. -The overground between Brixton and Clapham Jn has been modified. -The kink in the tramline has been moved left of the Northern Line around Morden to assist a walkway link. -Overground around New Cross station has been modified to assist the walkway link. -Woolwich Arsenal is significantly closer to the tramline. A pier symbol has been added to the station. -The airport symbol has been moved before the station name at London City Airport. -The Enfield and Chingford overground branches no longer kink at the same vertical location. The chingford branch is angled further north-eastwards. -Kentish Town stations, South Harrow, Sudbury Town are all written on an extra line respectively. (There are probably others.) -High St. Kensington is now only written on one line. -The kink in the West Ruislip branch is now between Perivale and Greenford rather than Greenford and Northolt. -Pier symbol for Embankment has moved underneath the station name. -Charing Cross station name has been repositioned to the right of the northern line. -Victoria and Sloane sq have switched locations relative to the district/ circle lines. -Key symbols legend is now placed on the back of the map.
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Post by londoner on Dec 5, 2018 22:22:12 GMT
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Post by londoner on Dec 2, 2018 11:59:35 GMT
Back in February this year the Guardian were reporting that TFL will be facing upto a £1Bn deficit next year - and that was before the news that Crossrail had been delayed. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/12/fall-in-journeys-leaves-tfl-facing-near-1bn-deficit-next-year so without that revenue they were hoping for and with virtually no increase in fares due to the Mayor's manifesto pledge the purse must be even more in debt. Journeying yesterday on the Victoria (very dirty seats) Piccadilly line (filthy in and out, very slow and large gaps in service), Jubilee (good clean train (still under contract refurbishment?) good service) and the Overground (very good service (H&I to Canada Water) and newly refurbished train (under contract)) you can see where they are penny pinching which lead to even more problems in the future. Oh and has anyone seen the state of Manor House station recently? it had a deep clean a few years ago but hardly anything subsequently - the light diffusers particulary in the ticketing hall are almost black with dirt creating a very dim and dingy look! If there is no money to even do basic cleaning what hope is there for many other more critical systems? Cleaning is one I've noticed for years, for example, the rotting flies on the window ledge at Sudbury Hill...
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Post by londoner on Nov 22, 2018 10:41:45 GMT
I also wonder what these trains will sound like - I am thinking of their electronic control gear, etc. I wonder if they will be like the other Siemens trains which emit what to me is pleasant musical tone sounds. Have any tube stock ever played in-carriage music?
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Post by londoner on Nov 22, 2018 10:39:33 GMT
The map emphasizes how ridiculously complex the south London rail services are and why a potential TFL takeover should first be thoroughly reviewed.
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Post by londoner on Nov 6, 2018 23:20:50 GMT
...his director's appeal was rejected on Friday and now its going to tribunal. Admin comment Best that we don’t discuss an employment matter that is ongoing. Can we stick to trains please?Just let me get some duct tape
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Post by londoner on Nov 5, 2018 16:39:10 GMT
Is it possible they wanted the "new" line to be operationally separate from other lines such as the Watford DC branch?
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Post by londoner on Nov 5, 2018 1:59:15 GMT
The 96ts door buttons were being sold off by the LT Museum shop last month for a tenner, not sure if they still are. I got one, I just need to rig it up as a doorbell now! Still on sale for anyone interested: https://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/gifts/bestselling-gifts/jubilee-line-buttons
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Post by londoner on Nov 1, 2018 23:43:53 GMT
http://questions.london.gov.uk/QuestionSearch/searchclient/questions/question_301005
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Post by londoner on Oct 30, 2018 22:58:15 GMT
Having now checked, from the TfL Business Plan for 2010/11 through 2017/18 that was published for review in October 2009, the actual reason cited there is: Why would TfL invest in accessibility of stations that are in close proximity to existing step-free stations in the first place? Large sections of the Central, Metropolitan, Northern and Piccadilly Lines have no step free access. Stations should be selected and prioritised based on factors like: Areas they serve which may have fewer accessible stations. Whether these are Day / Night Tube Termini. Connections they provide to other services. Stations like Rayners Lane, Turnpike Lane, Kentish Town, White City and Leytonstone should be the ones to be prioritised. Granted, these may be less straightforward conversions, but you could argue that providing more step-free stations to areas that have less of them is money better spent. If I understand it correctly, Rayners Lane is a listed building so it will be more difficult to carry out works. There is no obvious way to make Rayners Lane step free, other than potentially adding a ramp from the car park onto the Westbound platform. This however, would mean the current work which is placing some sort of power supplies in the old coal sidings would need to be modified. The station won't be going step free for the foreseeable future.
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Post by londoner on Oct 28, 2018 22:22:48 GMT
I presume there is a database which stores details of all the maintenance/ upgrades to each car. Before the rise of computers however, was such information stored on books? Did this require hard copies to be made?
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Post by londoner on Oct 9, 2018 23:45:00 GMT
The article by Ian is great.
I have to say I absolutely love engineering projects which make better use of infrastructure or give new life to otherwise unused infrastructure.
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Post by londoner on Oct 3, 2018 18:50:52 GMT
What LR Towers is probably trying to say, in not so many words, is that "We can't guarantee there'll be anyone around, so we won't put them in the most obvious place". Finchley Road & Frognal, on the closure list, has the best possible ticket/control office with wide glass window, easily visible to all passing, so the argument really doesn't stand up. When I've needed to find the Croxley "human", they're invariably in the old ticket office, which can only be seen into by craning across the barrier, then shouting to attract attention... Or the gates are locked open with nobody to be seen. This is the main issue I have. I don't think its unreasonable to close ticket offices at less busy stations, but the idea that the staff are more visible does not match my experience. If anything, it seems there are fewer station staff and those that remain seem busier and doing tasks behind closed doors. As the other user pointed out, it is indeed hit and miss. I fear that we will end up with staff-less stations in the next 20-30 years.
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Post by londoner on Sept 28, 2018 23:47:40 GMT
Do TfL use the line closure during strikes to carry out any track or signal maintenance?
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Post by londoner on Sept 28, 2018 23:46:19 GMT
The highest section at the north end of the line is Stonebridge Park to Wembley Central. Presumably this is a combination of many people travelling to/from Wembley and fewer trains north of Stonebridge Park. The second highest is North Wembley to Wembley Central, which again fits with people travelling to/from Wembley. Kensal Green to Queen's Park is higher than any section between there and Paddington to Edgware Road. This fits with people changing to/from trains to Euston and some trains reversing there. Yes, this would match my observations. The trains often empty out after Wembley Central. Its a big catchment area, not just because of the stadium but it has many local buses, shops including "Ealing Rd", and a large residential area. Although the station entrance was rebuilt in the 00s?, and also the platforms to the mainlines, the number of barriers I believe has remained the same - this despite there being an opportunity to make the entrance bigger, they opted for more shops. The football crowds are directed via a white footbridge which is only open on event days. It is similar looking to the "arch-like" footbridge at Wembley stadium station.
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Post by londoner on Sept 27, 2018 15:12:35 GMT
Other than possibly between Paddington and Baker Street/Oxford Circus I don't think Crossrail will have any significant impact on the Bakerloo Line - and part of that will depend on how interchanges with Crossrail compare with existing interchanges. e.g. from the Isle of Dogs it might still be easier for me to get to Paddington via the Jubilee and Bakerloo lines given the ease of interchange at Baker Street and the better positioning of Canary Wharf JLE relative to buses and the DLR. Mind you, I wouldn't take the Bakerloo line in the summer...
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Post by londoner on Sept 12, 2018 23:21:55 GMT
Any details on exactly what has been updated/ what issues the update is meant to solve? In particular, is it an update that adds some kind of new functionality, or an update that is trying to make the functionaity that's already there err... function? They're trying to make it work as intended rather than adding anything new - we are talking about implememting the system rather than modifying something that's already in use. Going back to June and the failed attempt to go live.... A number of technical issues cropped up during the "go live" weekend which passed the threshold of acceptability - mostly trains arriving at the CTBC boundary not able to correctly enter the CTBC area. It was also realised that availability of modified S stock trains would be tight for a full weekday service and that taking a step back and re-evaluating whether it was right to continue led management to the conclusion that they were not in fact ready to proceed. They decided to pull the plug and as I said at the time, it made sense to admit defeat. "They" decided to name a date in September (they did consider an August date but wanted to avoid the Notting Hill Carnival). Before the date arrived it was put back to October. October has now become November. Whilst on the face of it these constant date changes give the impression that the whole thing is in chaos; to be fair to the "the managment" they want to be certain that the next time they go live, it will actually go live. If they feel the system isn't ready, they'd much rather take a bit more time to test and then name a new date rather than go through the debacle of June all over again. In an email update that went out today, management are acutely aware that they're having to refresh Hammersmith & City/Circle line train opertaors as its been more than six months since they were originally trained and that District training is about to start (all District I/O's already done and are at risk of going over the six month threshold for refresher training). Refresher training of course incurs an additional cost to the 4LM project so the constant date changes cannot continue indefinately. Also, each time a new go live date is announced, depots have to release all their intructor operators as they are required to accompany drivers on their first few trips. Not only does this see changes to rest days and annual leave having to be planned, but a canceled go live means it all has to be undone again. So again the ever changing go live dates are not something that can keep happening. The go live delay does mean more and more S stock are being modified so at least in that regard there's less worry about having enough trains modified to run a full weekday service. Shadow running of a segregated fleet (ensuring only modified trains run on Hammersmith & City and Circle line workings) is currently being monitored to ensure the correct trains are being allocated on a daily basis. A number of software updates since June have been sorting out things like VOBC issues (Vehicle On Board Controller), CSDE (Correct Side Door Enable), emergency brake events, "NCT Lockups" (routes unable to be released once set), Trip cock mismatch at boundary points, spurious messages, dwell times, short target points, speed restrictions, platform hold not working and a few others I won't pretend to understand. The latest software version - the one they intend to go live with - is not being made available till mid October. Given that it needs to be tested and proved to be safe for certification to run a passenger service, you can see why the go live date has now moved to November. So the current plan is; 21st & 22nd October will now be the test weekend for the latest software (the go live version). 3rd & 4th November will be a trial operations weekend for SMA0.5 (extension of already planned SMA3 test weekend) 17th & 18th November SMA0.5 goes live 12th & 13th January SMA1 goes live (originally planned as SMA2 testing - SMA2 testing may be moved to another date) Hope that helps explain some of what's going on...... Thank you for this very informative post!
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Post by londoner on Sept 3, 2018 20:54:15 GMT
When I read the topic title and contents, I presumed it was a small opening of the door. To see a picture of the door completely open is quite surprising to me. I am glad no one was hurt.
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Post by londoner on Aug 28, 2018 13:59:28 GMT
The route is also kept open for diversionary routes on the GWR.
Video posted on Youtube by justinfoulger:
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Post by londoner on Aug 28, 2018 13:55:20 GMT
An interesting article regarding actions from commuters which others find irritating. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45317372I am a bit surprised that feet on chairs isn't on that list? That really annoys me. Also people playing music/ games/ videos without headphones or using headphones which "leak" sound. Any others that get you riled up? On the flip side, is there anything that has genuinely surprised you and made you feel other commuters aren't so bad?
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Post by londoner on Aug 26, 2018 13:45:51 GMT
Will it call at the intermediate stations?
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Post by londoner on Aug 21, 2018 12:03:29 GMT
There is definitely one station on the network that used to have a wooden owl as a deterrent, not sure how successful that was, but I'm sure it was discussed on these boards not so long ago. Are these the nets you are referring to?: www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2381958
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