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Post by stapler on Oct 25, 2016 20:59:11 GMT
Quite correct, Norbiton Flyer (I daren't use NF!!) The Hackney/Hackney Downs interchange pre 1914 was much more versatile than it now is, with easy access to both sides at the North London station, and all three platforms at the Great Eastern one. By 1944, I think the exchange booking office was only on the south side of the North London. The three Hackney Downs platforms were connected by an open lattice footbridge at the London end, which survived till the 50s, without any users since the exchange facilities had closed 10 years before. It was a wonderful place to stand on when a Britannia with a Norwich train was approaching on the Fast Lines
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Post by stapler on Oct 24, 2016 9:14:07 GMT
Thank you, Roy: so they removed it to avoid the cost of renewing the bridge, I suppose?
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Post by stapler on Oct 23, 2016 20:58:41 GMT
Many thanks NF. There are now quite sizeable shrubs growing from the piers.
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Post by stapler on Oct 23, 2016 11:57:24 GMT
Thanks, yes I saw that in Wikipedia too. Thought it might be connected with some BR or District resignalling but couldn't square the dates. But as I said, I don't know that area well...
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Post by stapler on Oct 23, 2016 7:18:57 GMT
Being an infrequent traveller on the LSW line towards Richmond, noticed yesterday the piers of a skew bridge across the LSW that were part of the East Putney and Wimbledon New Line according to old maps. I know this connection into the District is still used, but when was the bridge to the up line taken out of use/removed; was its imply to save maintenance costs?
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Post by stapler on Oct 22, 2016 21:06:47 GMT
Nice film. Engineer = Everard Richard Calthrop of Loughton, just to find an L U Connection!
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Post by stapler on Oct 20, 2016 15:01:15 GMT
Snoggle, you are quite right about breaking through. Not recommended if you've just had a hip replacement op, I understand. Ilford is where it generally happens to me. At Chelmsford this morning, probably because of disruption caused by track problems near Stratford (lots of cancellations/curtailments)the gates were all open with 3 attendants looking on, but punters were still putting their tickets into the slots.
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Post by stapler on Oct 19, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
Many thanks, Chris M
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Post by stapler on Oct 19, 2016 12:57:07 GMT
How do they get to a third capacity increase? Surely the signalling upgrade wd be responsible for most of that? Could the same be applied to the tube lines?
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Post by stapler on Oct 19, 2016 7:18:21 GMT
Phil, how are the punters supposed to know that (in normal times or in an emergency)? I seem to remember UTS gates retracting in an emergency was the one recommendation of the Fennell Report LRT rejected....
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Post by stapler on Oct 19, 2016 7:15:10 GMT
Which side in fact are they on at Stratford P3) (Loughton and White City?
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Post by stapler on Oct 18, 2016 10:22:21 GMT
There were all sorts of detached bits ("exclaves" ) of parishes and counties all over the place resulting from feudal landholdings - eg Norhamshire, part of County Durham, cut out of what we now think of as Northumberland in the Tweed valley up by the Scottish border. One in London was the Walthamstow Slip, which ran westwards as a long narrow strip almost from Snaresbrook Station, being a bit of Walthamstow in what we now consider to be Leyton
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Post by stapler on Oct 17, 2016 12:03:10 GMT
Chris m. you are correct that Chigwell Lane stn is/was just off what is now called Chigwell Lane (though hardly now a lane) though the station started off as "Chigwell Road", but that of course wasn't an official street name, just an indication that it led to Chigwell. This station gained a certain immortality as plain "Chigwell" in the Victorian ballad "The Chigwell (sic) stationmaster's wife"
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Post by stapler on Oct 17, 2016 7:18:59 GMT
Just to add to the exotica, there was a succession of stations on what became the extremity of the Central Line which might have fallen foul of some 19th cent trade descriptions act:
Epping, which was in Theydon Garnon parish North Weald, in Stanford Rivers Blake Hall, in Bovinger alias Bobbingworth (one of those rare cases of a parish having dual names (- another known in railway circles is Chappel alias Pontisbright) not to mention Chigwell Lane, in Loughton parish and some way from Chigwell.
This last is interesting in that when the LCC built their overspill estate near Chigwell Lane stn in 1945-, they asked the LPTB to change the station name to Oakwood, that being their chosen designation for the estate. But LPTB declined because of likely confusion with Oakwood (Enfield). So the LCC thought again and came up with Debden, as the Domesday vill of Tippendune had become, commemorated in field names and a hamlet a mile or so away....
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 21:07:19 GMT
Walthamstow Queen's Rd - which is in Edinburgh Rd!
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 20:50:18 GMT
Harrow on the Hill at the bottom of the hill - so is Buckhurst Hill!
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 13:37:06 GMT
pax; do you mean passengers per annum?
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 13:24:48 GMT
IME, it's a bit hit and miss, especially with OSIs - I have trouble with the Leytonstone (Mid to Central Line) one quite often. Not at the moment of course
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 10:37:26 GMT
Canterbury West (where, incidentally, the world's first railway season ticket was issued) is definitely West of Canterbury, and was probably named as such because of its proximity to the Westgate (a major landmark). I presume Canterbury East was named simply to differentiate it from Canterbury West because, as you imply, it would me far more accurate to call it Canterbury South, There was a Canterbury South, on the Elham Valley line (closed to passengers in 1940), not far from Kent CC HQ at Canterbury, but Canterbury East has remained obstinate these 75 years or so! Not forgetting Canterbury North Lane on the Crab and Winkle in railway prehistory: is this the only place in UK to have had 4 stations, each named after the prime compass points?
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 8:59:56 GMT
That was absurd, costing Cambridgeshire County Council in the tens of millions, when the St Ives branch line was losing peanuts!
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Post by stapler on Oct 16, 2016 7:09:15 GMT
Roding Valley, not very helpful since the RV extends from Stansted Airport to Barking Creek (but more helpful than Roding Valley High School, which is right outside Loughton station)
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Post by stapler on Oct 15, 2016 16:04:36 GMT
Remarkable! Had no idea this existed!
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Post by stapler on Oct 15, 2016 7:13:43 GMT
Talking of Waterloo, what's the current prognosis for the old Eurostar platforms, coming up for a decade of disuse?
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Post by stapler on Oct 14, 2016 12:56:18 GMT
Hope nobody thinks Stapler is a fraudster.
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Post by stapler on Oct 13, 2016 17:22:02 GMT
Many thanks for all that. The system is better than I thought!
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Post by stapler on Oct 13, 2016 11:03:09 GMT
Bit of a toxic brand with Essex commuters but not quite as much as "Southern Railway" or Govia....
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Post by stapler on Oct 13, 2016 9:06:33 GMT
Yesterday at about 1510 I was caught up at an incident at the Bank. Had just passed through the barriers when the Inspector Sands announcement came over the Tannoy, followed a few seconds later by the evacuate instruction. So I walked to Cannon St, passing the oyster over the readers, and got on the District. This has happened to me before on occasions and I have always had to phone the Oyster helpline to get the incomplete journey removed. The very helpful chap at 222-1234 this morning went through the process, tracking the entries and exits, and found the system hadn't overcharged me at all. It recorded the incomplete journey and didn't apply a charge. He was as surprised as I was. Has there been some change in the way the algorithm works? BTW, the District driver, in passing through Monument without stopping, announce the emergency was a reported fire.
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Post by stapler on Oct 13, 2016 7:17:53 GMT
Couldn't Redbridge Museum be interested in it? The EF museum at Waltham Abbey had a whole booking office at one time, but I never knew if it was original or facsimile!
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Post by stapler on Oct 12, 2016 20:03:33 GMT
However we do get rid of the hated Abellio name, and I hope with it that Dutch state railways logo.... The unit might have been the ERTMS, but if so, it could have done with a wash...
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Post by stapler on Oct 12, 2016 7:02:00 GMT
Possibly, rincew1nd, but with the fleeting glance got, I didn't think it was bright chrome yellow, more a dirty ochre with random lines and dashes!
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