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Post by angelislington on Jan 20, 2008 21:18:45 GMT
It's easy to look at a map and think south london is well served but even with seemingly high frequencies (24tph+ out of Waterloo, Victoria/London Bridge and Cannon St/Charing X/London Bridge divided into their respective inner suburban routes) the following factors come into play<snip> Hoo yuss. I had no idea, until I moved out here & travelled in a few times by train - it's pants! I kind of assumed, having lived in Camden Town, Sluff & Morden, that it was equally well-served all over the Smoke. Not so. You mention the inner suburban routes; because there's so many of them the service frequency out of the mainline stations gets seriously diluted. A train every half hour isn't good enough in London! I know the original reason why there are so few tube routes south of the Thames was because it was different geology, harder to tunnel through - but presumably engineering has managed to get beyond this issue now? Why is it that people are prepared to believe projects are justified when they are backed by corporations but not when there is genuine public demand? Cash If they decided to go for it, who would initially pay? Certainly each time they think about new lines/extensions the Guvmint throws toys about how it wouldn't benefit the rest of the country and it would be a disproportionate investment, yada yada. Get corporations to pay, or at least contribute, and people (non-Londoners) won't whinge as much.
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Post by angelislington on Nov 19, 2006 11:59:07 GMT
Yay, that's really cool, thank you!
xx AngelIs
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Post by angelislington on Nov 16, 2006 10:30:55 GMT
Morning all,
following on from the other thread about the bank/moorgate section, it occurred to me, I've always wondered:
I know all about the fact that the first trains on the northern sec of the C&SLR being unable, sometimes, to make the gradient and rolling backwards down the tunnel to try again.
My quessie is: how did this affect the signalling? Presumably there weren't enough trains running for this to be a problem?
xx AngelIs
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Post by angelislington on Nov 16, 2006 10:44:57 GMT
I can probably put some plans up, if you will bear with me for a couple of days. I will try to digitise what I have, but it will take a little work to make them readable in a smaller scale. yay, I'd love to see these! xx AngelIs
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Post by angelislington on Nov 16, 2006 10:47:21 GMT
poor folk in my old flat in Morden, then; I used to hate being woken up on a Sunday when they put them through the washer!
xx AngelIs
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Post by angelislington on Apr 7, 2008 11:42:57 GMT
On behalf of MRFS42:
These are the full Bakerloo WTTs I can lay my hands on.
Bakerloo 1935 14th October #129 Bakerloo 1960 12th September #45 Bakerloo 1964 7th September #52 Sticker saying came in on 12th October Bakerloo 1965 11th October #54 Bakerloo 1967 16th October #56 Bakerloo 1968 14th October #57 Bakerloo 1970 26th January #58 Bakerloo 1971 3rd May #59 Bakerloo 1974 October #62 Handwritten, Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1975 March #64 Saturdays Bakerloo 1975 January #66 Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1975 May #67 Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1975 December #68 Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1976 March #69 Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1976 August #70 Handwritten, Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1977 January #72 Saturdays 20 train service Bakerloo 1977 April #75 Mon - Fri, 40 train peak, startof 1972 stock Bakerloo 1978 May #77 Mon - Fri Bakerloo 1979 May #1 First TT after opening of the Jubilee Bakerloo 1981 November #2 Bakerloo 1982 December #3 Bakerloo 1985 13th May #5 Bakerloo 1986 May #6 Bakerloo 1988 16th May #7 Bakerloo 1988 3rd October #8 stamped up received 13 SEP 1988 Bakerloo 1989 15th May #9 Bakerloo 1989 2nd October #10 Bakerloo 1990 14th May #11 Bakerloo 1991 8th July #12 Bakerloo 1992 11th May #13 Bakerloo 1993 17th May #14 Bakerloo 1994 29th May #15 Bakerloo 1995 24th September #17 Bakerloo 1997 14th July #20 Bakerloo 1997 28th September #21 Bakerloo 1998 27th September #22 Bakerloo 1999 30th May #23 Bakerloo 1999 26th September #24 Bakerloo 2000 24th September #26 Bakerloo 2001 20th May #27 Bakerloo 2001 30th September #28 Bakerloo 2002 2nd June #29 Bakerloo 2003 18th May #30 Bakerloo 2004 12th December #31 Bakerloo 2005 12th June #32 Bakerloo 2005 11th December #33 Bakerloo 2006 10th December #34
Bakerloo 1931 June #unknown - on its way, not seen yet.
This has been a public service wossname by AngelIs.
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Post by angelislington on Jan 25, 2008 22:55:53 GMT
I must say, the whole of this thread has had me in *stitches*, you guys are all completely fab - but rather mad! We are disputing the period this little layout should be based in. Me, I prefer the 30s (hence Arnos Groove [1]) but M prefers the idea of 50s/60s. The name was suggested by Grumpy Uncle Ray [2], who works at the Tallyho railway with M. I think it's absolutely great, as I was brought up by a massive sci-fi fan & I find all that kind of thing well cool. As for the scale of the project, well I think we're /both/ a little OCD, so you can bet it's going to be pretty cool! (Although I had no idea that the attention to detail would go /this/ far...) [1] typo - but I like it, so it's staying! [2] Signature quote: "It's being so bloody miserable what keeps me going."
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Post by angelislington on Jan 9, 2008 21:15:04 GMT
Thanks, Colin! But, what I meant was, why change location, why couldn't they reuse the space? I mean, the old stuff was stripped out, there is now a big empty space where the new stuff could have gone. Or is it a case of having to have the new stuff up and running so that there was a seamless switchover from the old equipment to the new?
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Post by angelislington on Jan 5, 2008 0:54:35 GMT
And can I just add a vote here for that book, it's absolutely amazing, so thorough and the fold-out tile diagrams are fantastic. It's given me a whole new appreciation of the Edwardian lines. It's going to be a resource that I return to again and again. Well worth the money. (And a Christmas pressie from the lovely MRFS42, he knows how to spoil me!) I'd love to know more about the tiling at Leicester Square.
railtechnician, do you know why the telephone equipment was moved? Strikes me as a great use of empty space.
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Post by angelislington on Mar 6, 2007 20:04:43 GMT
Smashing, thanks very much! :-)
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Post by angelislington on Mar 4, 2007 19:05:11 GMT
Hiya! I'm intrigued. I got a couple of old maps off eBay from 1938, and the Circle line is not defined on them in yellow yet. I know it existed from about 1865, but when did it officially start appearing on maps in its present, cheery yellow form? The nearest I can tie it down to is 1949. (I also got a 1919 map, and it's goooorgeous. ) Thanks in advance! (not bad - that's two non-northern line posts in one day! What's going on!)
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Post by angelislington on Mar 24, 2008 13:08:38 GMT
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Post by angelislington on Feb 12, 2008 21:42:02 GMT
There is a rescue package being started, I shall contribute to it. Wouldn't mind knowing about that. May be a strapped stoodent, but can always find *something*.
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Post by angelislington on Feb 10, 2008 11:42:31 GMT
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Post by angelislington on Feb 5, 2008 7:24:40 GMT
I like the line 'shut down your computer immediately'. And then what? You're gonna have to boot it up again to get rid of the scarynasty email... ;D Incidentally, off the top of my head (and it is pretty early for me so I am open to correction, here!) I can't think of any email package where you can read the name of an attachment before opening the email. As I see it, the biggest problem with these kinds of emails is the fact that people forward them on randomly without editing the contents of the email - including removing information of previous recipients. (Once I counted 200 email addresses in a forwarded email, going back 7 'forwards' - if I were a spammer, I could have a field day.) So fine, forward it to all & sundry if you really must, but remember you can (and should) /edit/ the message and delete any previous recipients' info. The second problem is that sending this to everyone clogs up email systems unnecessarily, and that in itself is 'viral', in that it causes problems. The creators of these kinds of emails find this funny. Sometimes they do it just to see how quickly the message will spread and be returned to them. I also get fed up that people don't know how to protect the privacy of those to whom they forward chain emails. Stick your own name in the 'to' box and all your friends' in the 'bcc' box. Sorted. Now the only address whose privacy can be breached is my own (if my recipients forget about the first point above) and that's my own lookout. Before anyone accuses me of griping without actually doing anything to solve the problems, in fact I am. I trained IT for nearly 3 years and always covered it in Outlook courses; 80% of my current teaching is ICT and I cover these issues in every one.
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Post by angelislington on Jan 19, 2008 9:30:15 GMT
ahhh! <penny drops>
Ta!
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Post by angelislington on Jan 18, 2008 9:59:43 GMT
Or is it supposed to be 'semtex'?
I've heard a couple of people use it and I can't work out what it means!
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Post by angelislington on Jan 2, 2008 19:46:18 GMT
Wow - let me get this straight - Russos took photos the day before it was reopened? I'm amazed that they could clear all the stuff away before then. But what a station, coo. I dream now of coming to visit it some day. 3. On June 1, a picture gallery train named 'Akvarel' ('Watercolor') entered service. Basically, it is a 81-740 'Rusich' train with windows and seats removed from one side. What a fantastic idea! Really not sure how it would go down over here, but I love that, I think it's great! Who came up with the idea? Thx for your update! I enjoyed reading that.
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Post by angelislington on Dec 9, 2007 19:02:31 GMT
Ooo, Tokyo, Santiago, Mexico City... hmmm!
Funnily enough I didn't like the Paris metro much. Rather unfriendly, large open spaces & such. It was a bit too... clinical, I think? I shall have to think about it some more.
And Chicago=Yerkes? Maybe!
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Post by angelislington on Dec 9, 2007 0:50:46 GMT
So. Hypothetically, you get the chance to visit any 5 metro or subway systems in the world (other than our lovely London Underground, of course).
What would you pick? And why?
I'm thinking, personally, Chicago, New York, Moscow, Berlin... stuck on a 5th...
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Post by angelislington on Dec 5, 2007 20:35:48 GMT
Oh how I laughed. I was happily trundling through a quiz about disgust, on the BBC's psychology pages, when I was asked this question... Disgusted? I should coco. Should be a Norvern line car ;D
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Post by angelislington on Mar 11, 2007 13:28:29 GMT
The doorbell sound is the countdown chime, when a train is meant to leave a station, and the three notes every now and again are the ATP code chimes - when it does high to low the target speed has decreased, and when low to high the target speed has increased. Smashing, I was wondering that!
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Post by angelislington on Mar 7, 2008 8:58:52 GMT
Well I reckon Baker Street (though I know that's not quite right... praps Kings Cross, around the Thameslink kind of bit?) and MRFS42 reckons Liverpool Street.
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Post by angelislington on Mar 6, 2008 8:03:55 GMT
+1 for Deptford Bridge, by me & MRFS42, but we're still thinking about the other bit...
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Post by angelislington on Mar 2, 2008 17:48:38 GMT
I'm so impressed with how you paired those two pics! Did you spend ages finding two alike, or did you go out and take the 'Dragonham' one specifically? Love it!
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Post by angelislington on Feb 18, 2008 13:19:15 GMT
Did the Magic Roundabout have a station? That's the only one I can think of, having inverted the colours and discovered the tree to the left is fluorescent blue!
I think it's Leytonstone too.
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Post by angelislington on Feb 21, 2008 22:32:55 GMT
Sorry, I'd forgotten this was still open. It's the input shaft of a lime kiln at Moira Furnace near Ashby de la Zouch. Your get points for your dating - it's early 19th century, the blast furnace the kilns supplied was constructed in 1804. Aww, that's not fair, I always expect these extra pics to be somewhere in London! I'm chuffed I got the dating about right, it's been yeeeears since I studied any industrial archaeology but it was one of the modules I did in my degree (Medieval Arch). (Isn't Ashby where they made KP crisps? Mmmm.... potatoes.... )
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Post by angelislington on Feb 21, 2008 20:48:54 GMT
So what about the holey brick-lined thing? I don't think it's Roman, looks dated c. 18th C, but beyond that, I don't have any idea and I'm intrigued!
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Post by angelislington on Feb 6, 2008 18:55:32 GMT
I got my copy of 'What's In A Name?' out to have a look. "Theydon Bois was known as Thayden de Bosco and held by Hugh de Bossco in 1240, but this family name seems to be of local and not French origin and is derived from the wood in Theydon. Theydon itself means, perhaps, a 'valley where thatch was obtained'.
"The station was opened as THEYDON by the Great Eastern Railway on 24 April 2865; re-named THEYDON BOIS on 1 December 1865. First used by Undergound trains on 25 September 1949."
There are several 'boys/bois' around - Chesham Bois is pronounced 'boyce' or 'boys' and there's a village called Blackboys in East Sussex which is nothing to do with children but is, again, based on 'bois' (pron. bwah), French for wood.
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Post by angelislington on Feb 4, 2008 7:06:46 GMT
Nope. Willesden Green isn't on the Overground network and the first connection to the tube north of Gunnersbury is the Bakerloo at Willesden Junction. Oh. Oh yes, so it is ;D
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