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Post by alrispoli on Nov 16, 2008 20:33:37 GMT
What stock have LUL still got dumped around the network? I know that the state of play a few years ago was:-
South Harrow - 83ts *now some of it has been removed*
Uxbridge - 83ts *now all removed*
Lillie Bridge - Mk 1 72ts *now Measurement Train?!
London Road - Mk 1 72ts *presume now part of the Bakerloo fleet
Cockfosters - 83ts *removed and scrapped??
Ruislip - 2x 62ts Depot Pilots *still there (just about!)
Hainault - 72ts *most now removed
Acton Depot - 62ts & Mk 1 72ts *still there last April
Have I missed anything? Is there any updates you experts can give me?! I would like to see what can be photographed (legitimately) from public places. I did photo most of the above apart from Cockfoster, Lillie Bridge and London Road around 2002 so would be interested to know what if anythin I can still get!!
P.S Yes I know there is a heap of stuff in the LUL museum and Acton Works
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2008 23:18:13 GMT
Out of interest can anyone tell me what roads at uxbridge the 83s were dumped upon? In training i was told some points were rarely used and they were taken out of comission
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Post by Ben on Nov 17, 2008 0:51:02 GMT
The one nearest Sainsburys had a 72mk1 on it for a few years, the next three roads inwards had 83ts. Don't know the numbers off hand, I'm affraid!
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Post by Colin on Nov 17, 2008 1:45:29 GMT
Well there's nothing out of the ordinary at Upminster - other than the occasional C stock visiting for a go on the wheel lathe.
There is quite a bit of ex tube stock at the Shoeburyness MOD base, some of which can just about be seen from the outer perimeter fence....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2008 9:28:05 GMT
Ruislip - 2x 62ts Depot Pilots *still there (just about!) They were still there last week looking very green. Shame really. Just hope they get looked after before its too late if it isn't already  |
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Post by alrispoli on Nov 17, 2008 13:41:03 GMT
Yes they were looking quite green when I last saw them, hence my comment about just about being there still! Presume they don't have any regular use now?
Is anything at Neasden?! (out of the ordinary I mean!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2008 15:08:11 GMT
Is anything at Neasden?! (out of the ordinary I mean!)
2 heritage BR brake vans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2008 17:53:33 GMT
there was one car of 83 sitting in neasden for a bit and it didn't look to bad (you could see it from the south bound met) but wasn't that the one that went to great ormond street?
it's a shame theres nothing much on the northern anymore
from a picture on flickr there was a picture of an ex northern line 59ts in the mod! I'm not sure if I should post the link beacause unless the person was authorised it might be a bit against the rules
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Post by North End on Nov 17, 2008 18:17:56 GMT
What stock have LUL still got dumped around the network? I know that the state of play a few years ago was:- South Harrow - 83ts *now some of it has been removed* Uxbridge - 83ts *now all removed* Lillie Bridge - Mk 1 72ts *now Measurement Train?! London Road - Mk 1 72ts *presume now part of the Bakerloo fleet Cockfosters - 83ts *removed and scrapped?? Ruislip - 2x 62ts Depot Pilots *still there (just about!) Hainault - 72ts *most now removed Acton Depot - 62ts & Mk 1 72ts *still there last April Have I missed anything? Is there any updates you experts can give me?! I would like to see what can be photographed (legitimately) from public places. I did photo most of the above apart from Cockfoster, Lillie Bridge and London Road around 2002 so would be interested to know what if anythin I can still get!! P.S Yes I know there is a heap of stuff in the LUL museum and Acton Works Looking at the above list, basically correct apart from the following: - Definitely no 72MkIts at Lillie Bridge. Last I knew that unit (3213) was at Wabtec Doncaster, not sure if it's back on LUL yet. - At least one 72MkIts remains stored at London Road, definitely not part of Bakerloo fleet. Bakerloo fleet is unchanged from as it was in the late 1990s - the 4 trains of MkIts from the Northern, also hybrid unit 3299. - Yes, no 83ts at Cockfosters any more. - 2x pilot units at Ruislip, also Northern Line Engineering 59/62ts train is still there AFAIK. Don't forget the Weed Killing Train which is stored withdrawn at Ruislip, also the Tunnel Cleaning Train (not sure if that ever moves these days). Also the 1985 battery locos are stored at the back of Ruislip Depot alongside the Met tracks. - Only 72MkIts at Hainault is 3511, never likely to move again - prove me wrong Metronet! - Status of units at Acton Works is unchanged. So from the above, London Road, Ruislip, Hainault and Acton Works are the best locations. There's also 09ts at Northumberland Park Depot, of course! Hope that helps. |
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Post by stanmorek on Nov 17, 2008 18:45:11 GMT
Ruislip - 2x 62ts Depot Pilots *still there (just about!) They were still there last week looking very green. Shame really. Just hope they get looked after before its too late if it isn't already So why are they green? I had a close look at one 5 years ago. Not sure but had something about an RAF public event. |
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Post by alrispoli on Nov 18, 2008 13:44:55 GMT
I always wonder what the Mark 1 72ts is doing at Acton Depot (not the museum, the depot near the park) which looks very sorry for itself. Any reason it hasnt been removed and scrapped?! Same with 3511 at Hainault, although i haven't seen it there is a photo on flickr of it (its in a non public location I gather) and I can't see why it is still there and not disposed of its chances of ever operating again are so slim!
I presume the South Harrow 83ts unit(s) are still there then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 16:30:07 GMT
I always wonder what the Mark 1 72ts is doing at Acton Depot (not the museum, the depot near the park) which looks very sorry for itself. Any reason it hasnt been removed and scrapped?! Same with 3511 at Hainault, although i haven't seen it there is a photo on flickr of it (its in a non public location I gather) and I can't see why it is still there and not disposed of its chances of ever operating again are so slim! I presume the South Harrow 83ts unit(s) are still there then? Correct, the South Harrrow units are still in situ |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 16:59:26 GMT
They were still there last week looking very green. Shame really. Just hope they get looked after before its too late if it isn't already So why are they green? I had a close look at one 5 years ago. Not sure but had something about an RAF public event. This picture will answer that! www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/2653140107/in/set-72157606546684118/ |
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Post by stanmorek on Nov 18, 2008 20:42:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 22:34:49 GMT
This is NON-PASSENGER stock that's left and where:
1962 TUBE
1406-2406-9125-1681 Central Line Sandite
1682-2682-9459-1407 Central Line Sandite
1506-2506-9507-1507 Hainault (Cravens Heritage Trains)
1532 and 9533 ERU Acton Works
1560-2560-9561-1561 Pilot unit
1570-2440-9441-1441 Pilot unit
1576-2576-9577-1577 Acton
1680-2680-9515-1515 Ruislip
1690-2690-9691-1691 Acton
9745 Acton
Note that 9125, 9515 and 9691 are 1959 built, 2682 was originally 2728 and 1570 is in dark green livery.
1960 TUBE STOCK
3906-4927-3907 Northfields (Cravens Heritage Trains)
1972 MkI TUBE STOCK
3411-4511-3511 Hainault
3423-4523-3523 Acton
3202-4202-4302-3302 Acton
3205-4205-4330-3305 Acton
3212-4212-4312-3509 Acton
3213-4213-4313-3313 Future Asset Inspection Train
3215-4215-4315-3315 London Road
3219-4219-4319-3319 Shoeburyness
3221-4221-4321-3321 Shoeburyness
3229-4229-4329-3329 Holborn/Aldwych
1983 TUBE STOCK
3637 ERU Acton
3639-4639-3739 South Harrow
3640-4630-3740 South Harrow
3645-4645-3745 South Harrow
A STOCK
5172-6172-6173-5173 Neasden
6036 Sandire car (in 5066 unit at present with 6066 stored)
I hope that's it and haven't missed anything.
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Post by upfast on Nov 19, 2008 0:32:49 GMT
There's only 2 83TS trains left at South Harrow.
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Post by metman on Nov 19, 2008 1:01:58 GMT
I thought there was 1 and a half trains of 83 stock at Sth Harrow?
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Post by upfast on Nov 19, 2008 1:04:13 GMT
I thought there was 1 and a half trains of 83 stock at Sth Harrow? Quite possibly! Two sidings have something in though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2008 8:54:09 GMT
At the last look there was 1x3 "over the back" and 1x6 on No.36 road ("the traffic siding) next to the EB line. Total three units.
I will check tomorrow (Thursday) but I am sure nothing has moved.
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Post by upfast on Nov 19, 2008 11:43:03 GMT
At the last look there was 1x3 "over the back" and 1x6 on No.36 road ("the traffic siding) next to the EB line. Total three units. I will check tomorrow (Thursday) but I am sure nothing has moved. Only 32 and 34 road have 83TS in. |
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Post by alrispoli on Nov 19, 2008 18:25:31 GMT
The 72ts at London Road, is it viewable from the road bridge at all?! Indeed, any of the stock (I know the South Harrow ones are) that are mentioned, are they photographable from anywhere public besides passing trains?!
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Post by 21146 on Nov 19, 2008 18:37:15 GMT
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Post by alrispoli on Nov 20, 2008 19:53:46 GMT
Excellent, I have a long range zoom so will see what i can do at some point!! Does it ever get moved around? Or is it in a similar state to 3511 at Hainault?! I would imagine its nothing more than a spares donor sadly!
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Post by metman on Nov 20, 2008 22:43:49 GMT
What is the status of the 72 stock at Aldwych? Does it have a future?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 22:46:18 GMT
When I was at Aldwych a few months ago it was working fine - it seemed very noisy, though that could just be because it was so quiet down there. I didn't see it move, but they said that they moved it up and down to Holborn every once in a while.
The cars have some odd additions - such as a bulkhead fronted with some shiny plastic wood!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 22:55:15 GMT
There are THREE 1983 units in South Harrow as of today, exactly as in my previous posting on the subject at 22.34 on 18th.
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Post by metman on Nov 20, 2008 23:25:55 GMT
So one and a half trains worth then? That's what I saw recently too!
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Post by towerman on Nov 20, 2008 23:33:29 GMT
Wasn't the original plan for the 72TS at London Rd to be a personnel/equipment transporter for P.Way staff?
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Post by alrispoli on Nov 21, 2008 15:53:09 GMT
When I was at Aldwych a few months ago it was working fine - it seemed very noisy, though that could just be because it was so quiet down there. I didn't see it move, but they said that they moved it up and down to Holborn every once in a while. The cars have some odd additions - such as a bulkhead fronted with some shiny plastic wood! It also has corporate red front ends but aluminium sides!!! I had a tour of Aldwych back in 2002 and was very forunate and surprised to get a photo of the unit in the tunnel! Are there any plans to move any of the stored stock or dispose of it?! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2008 16:15:21 GMT
Metronet have disposed of 14 cars of 1972 MkI Tube Stock from Shoeburyness recently, which is why they weren't on my list posted on 18/11 at 22.34. The other two units there belong to Tube Lines apparently.
I am not aware of anything else going for disposal at the moment.
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