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Post by superteacher on Feb 21, 2010 20:05:13 GMT
They are forever changing their minds on everything they say, but nonetheless we knew they would be sent back at some point. I might have missed this as I haven't read the entire thread but what differences are there in the production trains (3 and onwards) compared to the pre-production trains (1 and 2)? The only difference I know is that the internal air is sucked in from a different place underneath the train as the air system on the pre-production trains was sucking in warm air. Something to do with cab modifications as well I think.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 10:54:15 GMT
When is the next 09 stock delivery scheduled for? I'm assuming that at the moment, trains 1, 2 and 4 are still at Northumberland Park. Is train 3 the next one due? I visited North Park Depot on Wednesday and sat in on part of the 09 stock course for the drivers - I was told they had trains 2 3 and 4 there, and that 1 had been sent back up for modification..? Train 1 has been sent back to Bombardier to be re-fitted to series build standard. Trains 2, 4 and 5 are at the Depot. Train 3 will be starting to arrive later today or tomorrow.
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Post by superteacher on Feb 22, 2010 19:27:31 GMT
I visited North Park Depot on Wednesday and sat in on part of the 09 stock course for the drivers - I was told they had trains 2 3 and 4 there, and that 1 had been sent back up for modification..? Train 1 has been sent back to Bombardier to be re-fitted to series build standard. Trains 2, 4 and 5 are at the Depot. Train 3 will be starting to arrive later today or tomorrow. They will have to start disposing of the 67 stock pretty soon then, or there will be no room in the depot!
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Post by metman on Feb 22, 2010 23:31:58 GMT
Yes, I'm afraid so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 10:27:55 GMT
A '67 will have to go before there are 6 09's.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2010 13:19:28 GMT
Does anyone have the times for the 2009 stock or know what service they will be on as i am in london with some freinds next wednesday and we are hoping to get a at least 1 trip on a 2009 stock train.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 27, 2010 13:38:20 GMT
Does anyone have the times for the 2009 stock or know what service they will be on as i am in london with some freinds next wednesday and we are hoping to get a at least 1 trip on a 2009 stock train. PM sent.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Feb 27, 2010 14:58:58 GMT
A '67 will have to go before there are 6 09's. What about that train that was being used on the Piccadilly? That was scrapped wasnt it? Does another one have to go?
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Post by metman on Feb 27, 2010 17:03:58 GMT
Which train? The test train? Yes, that is being scrapped at the moment. I think another has to go yes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2010 17:36:07 GMT
The (1967) test train was sent to Booths in January.
No more 1967/72s will go until there are 6x2009 in London with at least 5 of them commissioned for service.
It remains to be seen whether the next 1967/72 to be withdrawn will be sent away for scrap or whether they will be stored (off the Vic Line) for a while "just in case" - anyone remember when all the 1992s were withdrawn overnight, which was then half the Central Line service?
Train 1 has already gone back to Derby and Train 2 will be doing the same (don't know when yet).
Train 4 is already in passenger service - but they haven't yet bitten the bullet and unleashed it on the all-day railway!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2010 20:17:04 GMT
Train 1 has already gone back to Derby and Train 2 will be doing the same (don't know when yet). Mid-march, think the last time it is out will be 14th March.
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Post by astock5000 on Feb 28, 2010 23:11:22 GMT
It remains to be seen whether the next 1967/72 to be withdrawn will be sent away for scrap or whether they will be stored (off the Vic Line) for a while "just in case" - anyone remember when all the 1992s were withdrawn overnight, which was then half the Central Line service? But 09TS can only leave the Victoria by road, so if that did happen, the 67TS would have to run from where it was stabled to the Victoria line, and back again at the end of the day. This could cause delays on the Piccadilly line, and there could be problems with maintenance on the 67TS if this happened after a lot of 09TS were in service, as not as many trains would stable at Northumberland Park depot. It would probably be easier to only run a service on part of the Victoria, using the 67TS still in service on the line, and run replacement buses for the parts of the line that would be suspended.
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Post by metman on Feb 28, 2010 23:55:28 GMT
They would probably run a SS - Victoria service. I would imagine if it was a serious problem the 09s would be back on the road up North! This is unlikely I would imagine.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 28, 2010 23:56:20 GMT
But 09TS can only leave the Victoria by road Why? (Assuming the problem didn't prevent them running "not in service", or at least being towed, on their own wheels)
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 1, 2010 0:12:10 GMT
But 09TS can only leave the Victoria by road Why? (Assuming the problem didn't prevent them running "not in service", or at least being towed, on their own wheels) Because they are too big to run on the Piccadilly and use the connection to the Victoria at Finsbury Park.
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Post by slugabed on Mar 1, 2010 0:38:48 GMT
Why? (Assuming the problem didn't prevent them running "not in service", or at least being towed, on their own wheels) Because they are too big to run on the Piccadilly and use the connection to the Victoria at Finsbury Park. Isn't that a bit short-sighted? Why was the spec for the 09ts drawn up so this was the case? I'd have thought the disadvantages outweighed the advantages.....
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Post by metman on Mar 1, 2010 8:08:34 GMT
It appears LT didn't agree! The trend is that lines are becoming more self contained, whether this is right, is another matter.
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Post by louvrerivoli on Mar 12, 2010 21:01:03 GMT
One of the new trains was out and about earlier today at around quarter to 6. It was huge surprise not long after I've crossed over from the Northern line at Stockwell. I'm not sure which one it was but all I know that the running number was 236.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 21, 2010 13:02:57 GMT
On Saturday 20th March, trains 2,4 and 5 (at least) were out and about in service, variously seen on set numbers 271, 272, 201 and 213. So it appears that train 2 hasn't gone back for modifications yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2010 0:54:01 GMT
It was trains 2, 4 and 5. I hear there might be one or two more out next weekend.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 22, 2010 18:04:13 GMT
I am assuming that trains 3 and 6 are also commissioned for service by now.
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Post by astock5000 on Mar 25, 2010 0:41:55 GMT
No more 1967/72s will go until there are 6x2009 in London with at least 5 of them commissioned for service. A train of 67TS has now been withdrawn, so have trains 3 and 6 entered service, and has train 7 been delivered?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2010 13:27:34 GMT
Trains 3 and 6 are not quite in service yet (think they will be available next week sometime). Train 7 is not yet delivered.
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