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Post by jmm on Sept 6, 2010 13:01:45 GMT
Olympia is closed due to industrial action.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 6, 2010 13:48:37 GMT
An ASLEF member (according to the ribbon round his neck) on the Overground train I've just got off was saying the District Line will be "screwed down" from 4pm
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 15:45:05 GMT
Central line Minor delays are occurring due to industrial action.
And so it begins.
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Post by musicman3 on Sept 6, 2010 16:09:24 GMT
1st suspension:
Bakerloo Line Suspended between Queen's Park and Harrow & Wealdstone with minor delays on the rest of the line due to strike action.
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Post by 21146 on Sept 6, 2010 16:30:58 GMT
1st suspension: Bakerloo LineSuspended between Queen's Park and Harrow & Wealdstone with minor delays on the rest of the line due to strike action. That was an early affect of the engineering strike, no Control Tower staff at Stonebridge Park and thus no means of reversing or stabling trains.
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Post by 21146 on Sept 6, 2010 16:31:32 GMT
Olympia is closed due to industrial action. That was later put down as a "faulty train",
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Post by harlesden on Sept 6, 2010 17:07:37 GMT
1st suspension: Bakerloo LineSuspended between Queen's Park and Harrow & Wealdstone with minor delays on the rest of the line due to strike action. 5:45PM Northbound LO services to Watford Junction forced to leave passengers behind on the platform at Willesden Junction.
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Post by jmm on Sept 6, 2010 20:11:29 GMT
Severe delays on the Circle and Central lines.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 20:16:58 GMT
So far the system appears to be coping well. According the real time information most routes have a good service with some having minor delays and only the Bakerloo partly suspended (OK, and the Circle has severe delays but I don't believe in its existence other than on paper anyway).
I Left work at 19:15 thinking I'd have an awful commute and much long than my usual one hour. Quite the contrary. Many people probably decided to leave earlier or seek alternative modes of transport. I was greeted by an instantly appearing Picc. that was practically deserted. It took me to an on-time* Central which was emptier than I had ever seen it.
I wonder if tomorrow morning will be worse when just a few services not starting might have a bigger impact.
*Technically my train may have been 10 minutes behind schedule but as long as there is still 2 min. between each train no punter notices that.
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Post by superteacher on Sept 6, 2010 20:38:32 GMT
Am surprised the service is as good as it is. Weren't the station staff walking out at 9pm? The service may get worse before close of traffic as drivers book off, with no driver to take over their train.
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Post by musicman3 on Sept 6, 2010 21:07:28 GMT
Strike Situation as of 22:03 (and changing rapidly)
Bakerloo line: Suspended between Queen's Park and Harrow & Wealdstone with minor delays on the rest of the line due to strike action.
Central Line: Severe delays are occurring due to strike action.
Circle Line: Suspended due to strike action.
District Line: Severe delays are occurring due to strike action.
Hamersmith & City Line: Severe delays are occurring due to strike action.
Metropolitan Line: Severe delays are occurring due to strike action.
Closed Stations due to strike: Barbican Belsize Park Dagenham East Holborn Shepards Bush (Central)
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Post by superteacher on Sept 6, 2010 21:15:16 GMT
Yes it's all disintegrating now as trains are stabled due to lack of drivers, and stations are closing due to lack of staff. Doubt there will be much running after 11pm.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 21:19:13 GMT
Am surprised the service is as good as it is. Weren't the station staff walking out at 9pm? The service may get worse before close of traffic as drivers book off, with no driver to take over their train. The much bandied about phrase 'walking out at 9pm' is misleading. In reality those on strike are balloted RMT and TSSA members whose shift begins between 21:00 on Monday and 20:59 on Tuesday. Those already at work at 21:00 do not 'walk out'. Most late shifts on a weekday will start at around 1500 for station supervisors, or 1700 for Ticket Office staff and CSAs (Barrier/Platform staff). Therefore the effect of the strike (in terms of station staff) kicks in around 2300 when the night shift supervisors start, and around 0500 when the morning early shifts start.
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Post by superteacher on Sept 6, 2010 21:26:24 GMT
Am surprised the service is as good as it is. Weren't the station staff walking out at 9pm? The service may get worse before close of traffic as drivers book off, with no driver to take over their train. The much bandied about phrase 'walking out at 9pm' is misleading. In reality those on strike are balloted RMT and TSSA members whose shift begins between 21:00 on Monday and 20:59 on Tuesday. Those already at work at 21:00 do not 'walk out'. Most late shifts on a weekday will start at around 1500 for station supervisors, or 1700 for Ticket Office staff and CSAs (Barrier/Platform staff). Therefore the effect of the strike (in terms of station staff) kicks in around 2300 when the night shift supervisors start, and around 0500 when the morning early shifts start. Cheers for the info. I suspect that the lack of drivers is having more an effect at the moment then. EDIT: According to TFL live departure boards, last Central line trains are departing Central London as we speak.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 21:55:33 GMT
Quite. It's not a grand gesture 1970's style factory Walk Out behind Union banners at 21:00. It's more of a 'Won't Be Turning Up' after 21:00. Those at work at 21:00 will finish their shifts.
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Post by metman on Sept 6, 2010 22:43:30 GMT
Most of the SSLs are up the wall now and the Central and Bakerloo are crippled! I suspect tomorrow will show the true extent of the strike....
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Post by v52gc on Sept 6, 2010 23:16:18 GMT
TSSA asked station staff only for a walkout at 9pm, it's RMT that's asked all staff do not book on after 2100 (except ex metronet)
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Post by Colin on Sept 7, 2010 0:12:58 GMT
It may or may not have been noticed......we can now split & merge threads!!!!!! So, for my first attempt at using this facility, I've created this thread and pulled out some of the posts from the Forthcoming tube strikes thread so that anyone wishing to post about the current state of services can do so without clogging up the aforementioned thread which is really more about the background to the strike rather than meant for service updates. EDIT: Hmm.....for all it's usefulness I can't get this post to show as the first one in the thread Oh well, you get the idea. And while I'm editing, a factual correction - members of TSSA were instructed to walk out at 5pm. As stated RMT is no booking on after 9pm. You would think if they were going to co-ordinate they would do it properly ....
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Post by Chris M on Sept 7, 2010 0:24:18 GMT
I note the Central Line is suspended between White City and Leytonstone (tunnel station issues? controller issues?) At least a short while ago, the district was suspended westbound only - would this be a result of the east/west split in union membership mentioned in the forthcoming strikes thread?
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Post by Colin on Sept 7, 2010 0:30:59 GMT
Probably just easier to manage the last trains and get the stabling sorted so that the rolling stock is correctly balanced at the depots. I wouldn't be surprised if there were station staffing issues too - after all, that's the point of the strike - but I reckon it's secondary to the rolling stock.
Don't forget it's not just about the current availability of staff, etc, but also achieving the booked start up on Wednesday morning.
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Post by djlynch on Sept 7, 2010 4:30:24 GMT
Line status as it stands now, a bit before the start of service: No Circle No Central line No Victoria line No H&C east of Baker Street No Mets on the Watford branch or south of Baker Street No Bakerloo north of Queens Park Claims of "good service" on the District, Jubilee, Northern, and Piccadilly lines.
Things seem to have hit the area around the City particularly hard. Nothing at all through Liverpool Street or Aldgate; Aldgate East, and Tower Hill are also closed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 6:22:59 GMT
as of 7.17
Northern is the only line with a 'good service' Bakerloo and some District services running through Zone 1 Met running except on Watford Branch and East of Baker St H&C West of Baker St
I can only imagine the chaos at Baker St as people from three of five (part) working lines convene and try to get onto buses...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 7:16:30 GMT
I notice that only the Bakerloo & Northern Lines are running a GOOD SERVICE, although I'm not too sure how good a 2, 12 & 20 min southbound service at Tooting Broadway is compared to the normal headway?
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Post by messiah on Sept 7, 2010 8:05:50 GMT
Overground was busier than usual up to Shadwell. Looked to be 10 mins between trains at around 8.10 this morning.
DLR was busy but not packed after Shadwell. Very busy, but nowhere near peak Jubilee line crush after Limehouse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 8:25:59 GMT
Went to Maida Vale station this morning - found closed doors despite information on the website (which was updated only 20 minutes after that).
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Post by Chris M on Sept 7, 2010 10:19:44 GMT
North London Line has delays but pax loading east of Highbury doesn't seem bad. Three car services are running on the DLR Stratford branch but aren't needed currently.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 12:33:09 GMT
Was surprised to find the Drain running when I got to Waterloo this morning. (Was all set to walk, but thought I'd check the TfL site on my phone just in case). Normally it's the first to shut down in the case of disruption/strikes.
Seems to be running with minor delays now, hoping it'll last until home-time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 13:34:01 GMT
Kudos for TfL, they are providing a decent online tool to help us get around. Slightly moving on, I'm supporting the tube workers though. Really angers me when I read an Evening Standard poll, and how only 12% are supporting them in industrial action. If I was ever going to strike, i'd probably picket though. I wouldn't want to treat a strike as a day off, as such.
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Post by Tomcakes on Sept 7, 2010 13:54:05 GMT
Slightly moving on, I'm supporting the tube workers though. Really angers me when I read an Evening Standard poll, and how only 12% are supporting them in industrial action. If I was ever going to strike, i'd probably picket though. I wouldn't want to treat a strike as a day off, as such. Although IMO this strike has some grounds, many others have been over more spurious things - I expect many people have become tired and lump it in with the others. Is the ban on free travel for striking staff being enforced by TfL?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2010 13:56:08 GMT
The are going to ban free travel for strikers? Bob is going to go insane!
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