Still haven't seen an 09 yet

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Hopefully not the one that shuts its doors just as I dash onto the platform. Seems to happen to me a lot on the Vic.

I decided to hang about for a bit,there were 3 running tonight t4,t6 and t3
t4 and t6 was one after the other!

For geographical reasons I use the Vic quite a lot,though outside the peaks,I must say.
However,the only 09s I've seen yet have been snoozing at the depot as I cycle to my allotment...

[/u]. My thoughts since seeing it last time are:

Forced air ventilation is still rubbish - it was insanely hot. I can see why Boris is going ahead (or not with the budget cuts) with the big fan things between tunnels

The seats might have started to 'give' a little and we're *as* uncomfortable.

The driver's announcements were inaudible regardless of speakers every metre or so - the sound was extremely muffled.

Acceleration and top speed certainly didn't seem as quick. Whether they have actually been pegged back or it was just too close to the train in front as it was rush hour, I don't know.

For those in the know, was this a pre-production train?
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The two pre production trains have both gone back for modification to standard. The train you saw was train 11. I agree that the ventilation and driver PA announcements are poor. In fact, they are no different than they were on the pre production trains. I thought the whole idea was to learn from the pre-production experience so that the production run trains have these faults addressed, In terms of "give" in the seats, train 11 has not been in service long, so I doubt if there would have been much "give" on that one!

@londonstuff - forced air ventilation (in my opinion) was only designed to make the train feel more airy (which it does). as for the general heat this will only improve slightly once all the 67ts have been banished to hell.

a seat is a seat, 90% of us couldn't care less as we don't get one in the peak. at least they don't use plastic seats!

some drivers don't speak very loudly or clearly, looking at the video from the first run of the 09ts the driver spoke very clearly and loudly, although the train was at a standstill i still reckon it would be loud enough for use whilst the train is in motion. looking at other videos some drivers just don't speak properly,clearly and loudly enough. speech therapy wouldn't go a miss for the offending drivers.

i guess the only facts we can highlight from the new trains (once all in service) is that there will be 33tph compared with the 27tph today and the ventilation making it slightly easier to breathe.

I used one from Oxo to Euston, all I will say is it looked like someone had pumped up an 95/96ts. Horrible things.

The situation as of today is thus:

Trains 1 & 2 returned to Derby.

Trains 3-12 all delivered and all commissioned for passenger service. That's not to say that there are ten 2009s out there though!

It's the luck of the draw. Cross platform at Finsbury Park WB Picc to SB Vic at c.14.40 today and first train in was a 2009 - 11022-11021 (Train 11).

I travel Green Park to Euston and back every day as part of my commute and am now finding them rolling into the platforms quite regularly now.

Don't know what the maximum is they actually run, but 10 are commissioned for passenger service and nine 1967/72s have left NPD.

I think 7 2009 stock is the most that have run in service at any one time to date.

As of end-June 2010, my records show 12 complete units have been sent from Acton Works to Booths, Rotherham:

These are:
3008
3009
3012
3013
3017
3018
3025
3036
3038
3051
3064
3077

To that list presumably we can add 3001 and 3019.

Also added are the 3 cars scrapped/sold pre-2010 - the original 3016, 4016 and 3184 (ex 3141).

Of those cars gone, the following are ex-72 stock:
3101 (ex 3317)
4101 (ex 4317)

I think the front lights are brilliant!

I'm going to ride the Victoria line for the first time in a couple of months so the chances of me getting an 09 is much higher than before.

There was report in the Evening Standard (yes, yes, I know, it's sensationalised and all that) of 09's jamming up in tunnels because people were leaning on the doors. Is this a frequent problem? Has it been resolved?