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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 19:56:04 GMT
But if it's Mary-le-Bow (Cheapside), then Bow Lane leads to ... Mansion House. It's not Mansion House.. At this rate you'll get it by eliminating all the wrong answers
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 19:55:09 GMT
Nope , And Woodford's nowhere near an Oxford Highway
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 14:56:59 GMT
Edit for figures... As stated if anyone has any actual figures this post might be need to revised again!! ... to dig a tunnel? ;D I seem to remember (though my Google-fu is weak today, so I can't say where I heard it or read it) that it costs around a million quid *per metre* to dig a running tunnel. Or is this figure arrived at by taking the cost of an entire length of line and dividing it by how many metres it runs for, thus covering things like building stations en route and what have you? The figure I think is an estaimate based on the 'entire' cost of construction, divided by the length of line built... However, estimating costs of construction projects is a highly technical field, very closely related to something called quantity surveying, IIRC. Of course the cost of major transportation project isn't just in the physical construction and labour costs, it's also in the paperwork (specs/plans/ bills) , managers, lawyers, accountants, payments made to componsate other businesses etc... A tube line project could easily have at least 30 professionals on it (in additon to construction crew) and at professional rates... Assuming a professional is on 60,000 a year (BTW Is this typical for the level of seniority that would be involved, I imagine it might be higher?) 60,000*30 * 2 = 3,600,000 i.e 3.6 million on professional fees over 2 years alone.. Assuming standard working week for 40 hours per construction worker (I'm assuming an 'average' 40 hour working week, I know most construction work is typically shift based...) . Lets be conservative and say 30 an hour - It's probably a LOT higher for some ) That's 30*40*52*2 =124,800 per worker over of the project... I'm not sure how many 'workers' you would have , but let us' be conservative and so perhaps 200 workers, meaning 24,960,000 million on wages over a 2 year project So a project easily going to have a 30 million pound wage bill. Obviously you have the physical material costs as I mentioned. Also you would have * Cost of materials used ( determined by quantity surveying as I indicated) * Tax - (i.e Vat, Stamp Duty on land purchased etc.) * Rents/ lease payments on work sites rented. * Purchase price of land permenantly aqcuired.. * Insurance premiums, that cover not only the physical works, but the plant, staff, and legal liabilities that may arise. * Compensation paid out under Compulsory Purchase rules. * Hire payments on 'plant' (inc support plant, like portaloos, catering vans) * Fuel bills... * Tea So the cost of a major transport project CAN add up considerably... (BTW If anyone has any actual estimated figures they can share for a typical project they would be useful for comparison as I think my estimations above are probably wildly out..) A figure of 1 million per m would not suprise me.
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 14:27:46 GMT
Oh yes...third tunnel: Lord's! Well thought Sir! There are are two disused train tunnels under the Nursery Ground, and there is the third tunnel that is the ex-GCR line. XD , And that's something I didn't know when I actually set the clue! It's a much nicer explanation though XD The cryptic hint was only that the third station was 'tube'. The explanation for the other clues has I think already been given in the text.
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 14:21:39 GMT
1 - Silver(link) and Thames(link) could have been found together at West Hampstead. So, West Hamps, Finchley Rd, Swiss Cott: next stop Lords! The answers are indeed West Hampstead, Finchley Road and Swiss Cottage.
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 14:19:59 GMT
The Cryptic hint sounds like cricket => Lords So - that area - time for wildish guess: 2 - Finchley Road - the Met/Midland (goods) interchange sidings are now a car park. And even wilder 1. St John's Wood (or Marlborough Road?) Well , It's not St Johns wood. But someone else worked thought along the same lines...
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 14:16:43 GMT
1 - Marble Arch (where the wooden Tyburn Tree stood at the end of Oxford Street) It's not Marble Arch. Sorry
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Post by afarlie on Dec 7, 2009 14:15:52 GMT
Mary-le-Bow's passage would be... Bow Road. And it's not Bow Road ..
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Post by afarlie on Dec 6, 2009 21:24:10 GMT
Trying another tack: Mile End, with Queen Mary College? Nope it's not Mile End
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Post by afarlie on Dec 6, 2009 21:22:28 GMT
Is silver a reference to the Crown Jewels? In that case, my guess for number 1 is Tower Hill. Nope... The three clues are linked, as is the hint
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Post by afarlie on Dec 6, 2009 21:21:57 GMT
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Post by afarlie on Dec 6, 2009 12:29:21 GMT
By request, I am going to halt on posting these until the new year, Partly to ensure the Christmas Quiz gets looked at, and partly so that you can tackle the clues that have remained unsolved.
With that in mind, todays clues ( the last until January)
All are LU, None are DLR, Overground or National Rail...
1. If you go upstairs you used to find silver by the thames West Hampstead 2. Midland ghost parks car in goods yard. Finchley Road 3. Alpine pub replaced at depth.Swiss Cottage
Cryptic Hint: The third tunnel will not catch you out.
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 13:05:44 GMT
I gave up with Baker Street as couple of days ago...I got the 'elementary' suggestion but seem to think it was supposed to be a District station. Duh! Got the two cryptic muxed-ip! There are various referencs to be had between Sherlock Holmes and shells. Other than that I have no idea still what the connection is. Unless it's to do with pastry shells! To be fair, the shell part of the clue refers to a physical object on Baker Street station
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 12:40:13 GMT
I was going to say that! Rickmansworth was the limit of electrification, where steam took over, until 1960. Moor (upland) Park (reserve) station was, I think, built to serve a golf course. The cryptic hint I think refers to the stopping pattern of the rains serving those stations, MPk being served by both services, so I guess (2) is on the Watford branch. The Met wasn't allowed to build beyond Watford through Cassiobury Park so, if "Wat" was a hunter, the clue fits Watford itself. It seems I'm going to have Try harder with clues I present to some of you. Explanation for Rickmansworth - Correct Explanation for Moor Park - Correct , the full explantion does indeed include the explanation you gave, the additional part was the 'the fool built his house on sand' and a house for guests is a lodge, Hence Sandy Lodge. the other part of the former station name. Moor Park also as you say have a golf course nearby. Watford is also correct, the second part of the clue relates to the explanation you gave. According to Cyril M. Harris book "What's in a name?" Wat is a corruption of Wad which does indeed mean hunter Well done I'll have to think up some truly devious ones from now on
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 10:50:57 GMT
1 = Rickmansworth 3 = Moor Park Both correct. For the benefit of other contributors, you might want to explain why though
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 10:49:19 GMT
It is indeed Baker Street, I'll leave the forum to work out the shell connection.
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 0:29:26 GMT
I'm wondering if 1 is somehow related to Oyster cards but I can't work out how this would fit a single station ROFL . I've already said shellfish were NOT involved
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 0:28:31 GMT
Very clever But Nope it's not Uxbridge. I gave a hint that once found it's Elementary !
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Post by afarlie on Dec 5, 2009 0:24:54 GMT
Clues for December 5th 1. Steamed up when the power runs out but Not anymore. Rickmansworth2. Huntsman crosses river, the landlord won't let him through the park! Watford3 Golfing fool builds house for guests visiting upland reserve Moor ParkCryptic Hint: Quick, Slow, Quick & Slow , BTW At least 2 clues from previous days are STILL running, I'd appreciate someone taking another go at them
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Post by afarlie on Dec 4, 2009 19:31:07 GMT
Chesham (or should that be Cress-ham - a nice combination for a sandwich!) They are all three in the outermost zones. (would have answered before, but I was at work and could only lurk!) It is indeed Chesham. and the right link That said the clue related to some specfic locations and history of the Chesham line.. The original terminus for the line into Chesham would have been on the Boismoor road. The section of line between here and the current location of Chesam Station passes over some Water Meadows by the Chess, some of the the river here was used for Water Cress beds
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Post by afarlie on Dec 4, 2009 16:33:33 GMT
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Post by afarlie on Dec 4, 2009 16:31:11 GMT
3. Watford? - Wild guess, having understood the cryptic hint.... Good thinking but it's not Watford..
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Post by afarlie on Dec 4, 2009 13:28:49 GMT
2. The Central runs far beyond here, Jointly of course West Ruislip (the present limit of the former Great Western/Great Central joint line). It is Great Central related, but it's Not West Ruislip. You can award yourself a bonus point though, as I concede West Ruislip fits the clue
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Post by afarlie on Dec 4, 2009 11:58:14 GMT
2 smells like North Acton. Good guess, but it's not that central...
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Post by afarlie on Dec 4, 2009 0:20:54 GMT
OK Folks - I note some clues from previous days STILL haven't been solved.
Clues for today... And these may be some of the toughest yet.
3 in my rating is fiendishly hard to get unless you know the area concerned.
Today's clues are linked though (at least 2 of them at any rate )
1. St Giles, St Peter, Pass along thier namesakes highway to reveal more recent truth.Chalfont and Latimer (formerly Chalfont Road) 2. The Central runs far beyond here, Jointly of courseAmersham
3. What a load of cress beyond the meadow! Shall this halt progress? Chesham Cryptic Hint: Zoned? That used to be way out man!!
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Post by afarlie on Dec 3, 2009 15:49:14 GMT
Not sure what you are thinking, but it's not Monument... At this rate you'll all get ib buy sheer elemination ;D
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Post by afarlie on Dec 3, 2009 14:04:29 GMT
Or West Brompton (Oratory)? Westminster? Blackfriars?St Mary's Road, Wimbledon?Nope. Keep trying
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Post by afarlie on Dec 3, 2009 13:58:33 GMT
Or West Brompton (Oratory)? Westminster? Blackfriars? Again clever thinking , but still not there
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Post by afarlie on Dec 3, 2009 13:52:20 GMT
"Maria's passage" is a term for the Assumption into Heaven of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Would the Temple church be dedicated to that event by any chance? Clever thinking, but it's more down to earth than Temple
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Post by afarlie on Dec 3, 2009 11:38:32 GMT
Just got back from t'hospital so one last go: Shadwell? Shadwell Quarry, Shropshire is a major source of bivalve fossils. Nope, The station ins the clue's not even on the East London line/London Overground !! Hint: Read the clue carefully, and it's elementary.
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