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Post by Oracle on May 19, 2006 21:42:55 GMT
I subscribe to Gensheet forum and have noted that those who are members of Baywatch, the enthusiasts of bay platforms, have queried services into and out of Richmond Platform 3. There is I believe also a # over on the Windsor Lines that can reverse say Down to UP? Anyhow, mention was made of a Silverlink that stables in P3 post-peak I believe..but do DLs ever work into P3 please? It would appear from this Forum that all available platforms at Womble-don can and do get used ..four?...and it has been known for all to be occupied. Incidentally, this is a list of all known NR workings in passenger service over the Womble-don line: Point Pleasant Jn - East Putney 0454 SuX Basingstoke - Waterloo 0105 Waterloo - Southampton Central 0042 Waterloo - Strawberry Hill 0142 SuO Waterloo - Twickenham I wonder if there are any diversions due again this Sunday?
ENGINEERING WORKS Some lines will be closed between Clapham Junction and Wimbledon until early evening. Train services will run using the lines which remain open, but trains from Wimbledon to London Waterloo will be unable to call at Earlsfield. Passengers travelling to or from Earlsfield station may need to change trains at Clapham Junction or Wimbledon until all lines re-open. As a result some trains may be altered causing extended journey times
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2006 22:18:22 GMT
No ! District's do not work into Pl 3 at Richmond - No negative return rail fitted.
We can use 4,5,6 & 7.
We usually use 6 & 7, with just the odd scheduled train in 5, extra trains get there at disrupted times !
Silverlink, as you say, stable a train between the peaks in 3, though this may be used as a changeover, then leaving the stabled train in 4. They too sometimes end up in 5 during disruptions.
We occasionally get routed into 4, this seems to occur, when i guess the rails are ad-hoc being de-rusted (?) on occasional Saturdays when we use 4 & 5 and the Silverlink usually then uses 7 !
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2006 0:22:35 GMT
I've had a couple of occasions recently on special working (doing Richmond - Hst) being routed into plat. 4 while the Silverlinks are in 7!
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Post by Colin on May 20, 2006 1:55:22 GMT
On the occasions i've stabled the overnight Richmond train [at Richmond], it's always gone on platform 4. Quite scary the first time - I sat at the home with the route indicator lit and had to question myself over wether I had a 'good signal' or not ;D ;D ;D It would appear from this Forum that all available platforms at Womble-don can and do get used ..four?...and it has been known for all to be occupied. Incidentally, this is a list of all known NR workings in passenger service over the Womble-don line: Point Pleasant Jn - East Putney 0454 SuX Basingstoke - Waterloo 0105 Waterloo - Southampton Central 0042 Waterloo - Strawberry Hill 0142 SuO Waterloo - Twickenham I wonder if there are any diversions due again this Sunday?
ENGINEERING WORKS Some lines will be closed between Clapham Junction and Wimbledon until early evening. Train services will run using the lines which remain open, but trains from Wimbledon to London Waterloo will be unable to call at Earlsfield. Passengers travelling to or from Earlsfield station may need to change trains at Clapham Junction or Wimbledon until all lines re-open. As a result some trains may be altered causing extended journey times
Yes, the District uses platforms 1 - 4 at Wimbledon. All 4 platforms are used due to the higher frequency service provided on that branch. Platform 4 can be used by NR trains as it has a position light shunt signal for the depot. The passenger workings you quoted - I take it those are for engineering works - AFAIK there are no permanently scheduled passenger workings by SWT over the East Putney to Wimbo route. Furthermore, you won't see any trains between Wimbledon & Putney Bridge this weekend (LUL or NR) as it's closed for "planned engineering works"
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Post by Oracle on May 20, 2006 7:01:20 GMT
The list of passenger trains is in fact correct from two sources. The 0042 uses Clapham Jcn P6 and 0454 P6.
When the Blue Pullmans were around a charter company arranged for sets to travel down from Pont Pleasant on at least two occasions! Must have been a sight!
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Post by Oracle on May 20, 2006 18:42:21 GMT
Just got back from another trip up to Town to take the boys out. It's £19.60 for me + £5.65 for the boys for Ashurst New Forest > London [R1256 Zones Travelcard] with the Family Railcard and we used that card! Cracking value.
When we passed Wimbledon there were guys in hi-vis working on the track in the platforms and further along there was a parked digger with road-rail wheels ...not a 66 or other diesel visible. Anyhow I was talking with a Waterloo guard on the way back and he said that the crews for the Wimbledon branch sevice trains were either from Waterloo and Basingstoke. There is also apparently the last Weymout>Waterloo of the day, the 2210 from Weymouth which the timetable says is SuX and this often goes left at Wimbledon or has been known to go left at Addlestone and then via the Hounslow loop! The timetable also suggests that the 0105 Waterloo>Southampton, a Waterloo turn, is MX and not as stated before. Tomorrow because of engineering works Woking is 'out' so the Weymouth>Waterloo trains are diverted at Guildford to run through Cobham which is now a rare move in service but essential for route knowledge purposes. Off forum topic I know but someone may be interested!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2006 22:00:22 GMT
No ! District's do not work into Pl 3 at Richmond - No negative return rail fitted. We can use 4,5,6 & 7. We usually use 6 & 7, with just the odd scheduled train in 5, extra trains get there at disrupted times ! Silverlink, as you say, stable a train between the peaks in 3, though this may be used as a changeover, then leaving the stabled train in 4. They too sometimes end up in 5 during disruptions. We occasionally get routed into 4, this seems to occur, when i guess the rails are ad-hoc being de-rusted (?) on occasional Saturdays when we use 4 & 5 and the Silverlink usually then uses 7 ! With regard to the above, i would to add that for some reason whenever their is Rugby or some big event on at Twickenham, All District line services use platforms 4 & 5 and the silverlink use mostly platform 7. You can imagine the confussion this causes because most people will go straight to plat 6 or 7 then ask me does this train go to (and then list any district line stns). keithy
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Post by Oracle on Jul 21, 2006 18:32:27 GMT
Point Pleasant Jn - East Putney LATEST INFO
0454 SuX Basingstoke - Waterloo 0105 Waterloo - Southampton Central 0042 Waterloo - Strawberry Hill [note: 0142 SuO Waterloo - Twickenham is now booked this route only "if required"] However Tubechallenger has commented re 0105 Whether its via Pt Pleasant Jnc is another thing though, as it is known to not go via there due to its platform at Waterloo. p7 -> Windsor Fast = No Way
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Post by Oracle on Jul 25, 2006 22:39:39 GMT
Where is the current boundary, Wimbledon end, of the Point Pleasant-Wimbledon branch please? Is it still just north of the Depot south of W/Park? Or has it been extended to include the line up to the buffer stops?
Secondly, does anyone know when the bridge/flyover over the Windsor lines at Point Pleasant was taken out of use please?
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Post by Colin on Jul 26, 2006 2:30:37 GMT
Where is the current boundary, Wimbledon end, of the Point Pleasant-Wimbledon branch please? Is it still just north of the Depot south of W/Park? Or has it been extended to include the line up to the buffer stops? In what sense do you mean? AFAIK, LUL own the main running line from halfway along Putney Bridge up to the buffers at Wimbledon - with all 'bit's' of track leaving the main running line belonging to Network Rail. The signalling is installed, operated and maintained by Network rail - as are all the traction current supplies.
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Post by Oracle on Jul 26, 2006 8:19:38 GMT
Thanks Colin! It seems that the suggestion is correct that the boundary that was south of Wimbledon Park just before the depot, is now at the buffer stops. Someone was asking in another rail members' forum. When the flyover of the Up line was taken out (weak bridge?) no-one seems to know yet. I
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2006 21:02:50 GMT
Where is the current boundary, Wimbledon end, of the Point Pleasant-Wimbledon branch please? Is it still just north of the Depot south of W/Park? Or has it been extended to include the line up to the buffer stops? In what sense do you mean? AFAIK, LUL own the main running line from halfway along Putney Bridge up to the buffers at Wimbledon - with all 'bit's' of track leaving the main running line belonging to Network Rail. The signalling is installed, operated and maintained by Network rail - as are all the traction current supplies. This is a rather good question, to which i have heard several variations of answer. The main answer being given that the track was still owned by Network Rail, but the stations were managed by LUL in the same way as any other TOC operate on NR metals. I assumed this to be correct as NR signage is provided (30 speed control train stop excepted) and NR rules apply. Since SWT trains operate over this section why do they and us not operate under LUL rules (as Chilterns do on the Met) if LUL own the track ? Do Metronet then maintain it ? Certainly interested if anyone can say with certainty what the position is
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2006 23:02:09 GMT
The position as far as LUL and NR see it are as follows: LUL own the entire infrastructure but lease it out to Network Rail as it would have cost too much to simply replace the whole thing, as well as the fact that SWT services are required to run over those metals too and getting them to train just for a 3 minute journey would be pointless. LUL probably saw it pointless to upgrade everything also due to the fact that the Richmond branch has NR signalling anyway ... so it wouldn't lose them any cash! Hope that makes sense... Basically LUL were lazy.
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Post by Oracle on Aug 16, 2006 13:26:36 GMT
is from winter 2004
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2006 17:21:02 GMT
Do you LUL guys have to obey the SPAD indicators? (blue-surrounded signals which have red flashing lights when lit)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2006 18:25:11 GMT
Do you LUL guys have to obey the SPAD indicators? (blue-surrounded signals which have red flashing lights when lit) No.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2006 0:22:41 GMT
Do you LUL guys have to obey the SPAD indicators? (blue-surrounded signals which have red flashing lights when lit) No. I think thats a "No" because there aren't any on the tracks traversed by our trains.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2006 17:49:08 GMT
I think thats a "No" because there aren't any on the tracks traversed by our trains. Indeed, I'm not aware of any on the District, and even if there were then we're not trained on them.
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