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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2006 19:25:58 GMT
Hi there i read the board at Putney Bridge today and found to my horror that from there to Wimbledon will be closed on the 19th to the 22nd.
However it wasn't terribly clear as it mentioned 23:00 hours on it afterwards.
So is it closing early during the days and running a near normal service? Or is it closed completely?
i would be most grateful for any information that someone could give me, otherwise i'll be Bussing it to Wimbledon like a sardine ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2006 22:26:43 GMT
According to the Long-term planned closures pdf file from the TfL website, the line will be closed on Saturday and Sunday 20th and 21st May between Putney bridge and Wimbledon. Bus replacements will operate: Service A = Putney bridge - East Putney Service B = Parsons Green - Southfields - Wimbledon Park and Wimbledon.
Unfortunately no further imformation seems to be available, and there is certainly no information about this in the depots yet (at least nothing I've seen!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2006 22:55:29 GMT
we have the new timetables ready to go onto the programme machines but im not decifing them
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2006 5:38:55 GMT
right so according to those Rail Replacement buses, i cannot go directly from Putney Bridge to Wimbledon?
Looks like i'm gonna be on a 93 for an hour as opposed to the DR for 20mins in the mornings that week, lol.
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Post by Colin on Apr 12, 2006 5:50:40 GMT
right so according to those Rail Replacement buses, i cannot go directly from Putney Bridge to Wimbledon? Looks like i'm gonna be on a 93 for an hour as opposed to the DR for 20mins in the mornings that week, lol. You are expected to get the DR Putney Bridge to Parsons Green, then the rail replacement bus to Wimbo - seems daft to me, but that's the way it is unfortunately. Like you say - the other way is the 'wonderful' 93, though I suspect you won't be the only extra passenger on an already busy route....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2006 6:01:34 GMT
unfortuneately i cannot see the advantage of me going Back to Parsons Green to get a Rail Replacement bus that will only pass Putney Bridge a few minutes later... I know i travel against the Peak Flow, (There's always One ;D) but ot be honest the Rail Replacement buses running like that seem abit... pointless that is my opinion lol, i am interested to hear others and also the reasoning behind the bus set-up if someone has it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2006 15:49:55 GMT
Most replacement buses recently have been very complicated. I think the logic is to make the bus journey as quick as possible by following the best road route, but it just confuses everyone, including me! It's difficult to make concise announcements for such complicated alternatives.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2006 19:43:14 GMT
A number of these late night blockades (no service after 0015 between Putney Bridge and Wimbledon) have been cancelled at short notice.
Which has been frustrating and disruptive to undo all of that associated work.
I don't know anything about the Rail Replacement Bus service starting from Parsons Green rather than Putney Bridge.
What happens is whenever a closure of the tube network is formalised, and a need for a Rail Replacement Bus service is identified, a bus run is organised to run through potential routes, and identify calling points, any obstructions, hazards, narrow roads etc...and if there are constraints identified then the actual route will have to changed. I'm guessing that some road hazards forced this unusual bus service set up as described above. I'll try and find out more tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2006 19:50:49 GMT
Most replacement buses recently have been very complicated. I think the logic is to make the bus journey as quick as possible by following the best road route, but it just confuses everyone, including me! It's difficult to make concise announcements for such complicated alternatives. Sometimes Rail Replacement Bus Services can get complicated, but there is always a reason behind it (err...usually!!) For example, this summer onwards, there are a series of closures on the Northern Line between Camden Town and East Finchley. The Rail Replacement Bus service, you'd instinctively think would run between Camden Town and East Finchley calling at all intermediate stations. But there are big concerns about the disproportionately large volume of traffic through Camden Town station, which is already under strain during the weekends as its a compact station. As a result, to reduce overcrowding and the possibility of short closures of Camden Town station because of that, the Rail Replacement Bus service will start/terminate from Euston station instead and deliberately miss out Camden Town altogether. So this is a complicated alternative, but there is a reason for it - just that the average punter would not know, and intuitively expect a Rail Replacement from Camden Town.
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Post by Colin on Apr 12, 2006 23:14:58 GMT
unfortuneately i cannot see the advantage of me going Back to Parsons Green to get a Rail Replacement bus that will only pass Putney Bridge a few minutes later... The shutdown has been postponed for the time being - but look at the replacement bus routes again......the bus from Parsons Green dosen't pass Putney Bridge actually ;D ;D (you also seem to be under the misaprehension that this was for a whole week? It's only a weekend closure ;D) As for the general bus routes discussion - D stock trains would have terminated at Parsons Green, with the C's going to Putney Bridge. The Putney's are quieter than Southfields and Wimbledon - so it makes sense that 'traffic to & from Southfields and wimbledon be directed via Parsons Green where there are twice as many trains operating. The majority will always win in this kind of scenario.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2006 16:31:35 GMT
unfortuneately i cannot see the advantage of me going Back to Parsons Green to get a Rail Replacement bus that will only pass Putney Bridge a few minutes later... The shutdown has been postponed for the time being - but look at the replacement bus routes again......the bus from Parsons Green dosen't pass Putney Bridge actually I think in looking at the proposed bus replacement and determining if it really is ideal, one might like to consider the "normal" replacement service, more usually provided for this particular shutdown. A - Parsons Green - Putney Bridge - Wimbledon B - Parsons Green - All stations - Wimbledon. I wonder if the revised Parsons Green - Southfields ... service will use Putney Bridge ( as matloughe obviously suspects) but not serve the location. It may run via Wandsworth Bridge but that seems to me to be an opportunity lost (a lot of C stock passengers will not get off until Putney bridge regardless of any announcements) for very little gain. The proposed routing also makes travel between local stations far more tricky. On the face of it I can't see what will be gained by the (frankly bizarre) proposed bus service. The main difficulties experienced with the "usual" bus service are gridlocking of Parsons Green Lane by buses from the two services also getting in each others way. Severe congestion delays in Putney High Street. Other than that it usually works pretty well. I guess the revised service save a few buses, so is cheaper. A tendency by London Buses Tendering to award the two routes to different contractors, prevents disruptions on one service being accommodated by diverting a bus from the other service, which used to happen in the days when Capital Citybus were the usual operators of both services.
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Post by Colin on Apr 16, 2006 2:30:14 GMT
Wasn't Putney Bridge bus station (for want of a better description) remodelled?
Though I haven't been there since it was done, perhaps this may have played some part?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2006 9:19:09 GMT
The Information Board at Oxford Circus seemed to think it was all week as well, when i passed it the other day.
To be fair, when the DR is closed i will probably use National Rail to get to Wimbledon I really can't face Rail Replacement Buses or overcrowded 93's (Shudder) ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2006 19:01:21 GMT
Wasn't Putney Bridge bus station (for want of a better description) remodelled?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2006 10:45:21 GMT
DISTRICT LINE: Suspended between Putney Bridge and Wimbledon due to a signal failure at Wimbledon Park.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2006 16:01:12 GMT
Has it been raining up at Wimbledon anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2006 17:39:49 GMT
I was under the impression that the rain problem was fixed about a year ago.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2006 0:08:39 GMT
I was under the impression that the rain problem was fixed about a year ago. That particular problem has been fixed! I'm still wary of signals going back in my face on that branch when it's raining though, but [touch wood] there haven't been any more problems caused by rain... yet! (It'll probably all start to go wrong about the Wimbledon tennis fortnight!) I believe this particular signal failure was just a "normal" signal failure!
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Post by trainopd78 on Apr 28, 2006 11:42:59 GMT
Wimbledon lost point indications in the Wimbledon Park area, so the signaler couldn't clear the signal
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