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Post by ducatisti on Dec 12, 2008 9:48:36 GMT
A friend has just asked me about a signal at Earl's Court. Apparently there is a purple single aspect at the Richmond etc end that comes on as a train approaches and then goes out as the train gets close. I said I assumed it was a tripcock tester. Was I right?
Mike
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Post by Colin on Dec 12, 2008 10:13:58 GMT
You are indeed spot on
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Post by ducatisti on Dec 12, 2008 11:29:09 GMT
Excellent, I was a trifle "refreshed" at that stage, and had a terrible fear I was being very confident, but very wrong...
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Post by District Dave on Dec 18, 2008 16:38:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2008 20:07:09 GMT
I was just looking at your line diagram - are the WB platforms really that much longer than the EB ones (and if so, why on earth were they built that way) or is that just a bit of artistic licence?
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Post by Colin on Dec 18, 2008 22:06:57 GMT
The westbound platforms are indeed longer - the stairs from the platform to the booking hall at the Earls Court Road (east) end of the station were further back than they are now. The stairs at the Warwick Road (west) end have to be level on account of the 'over bridge' at that end of the station.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 19, 2008 10:22:05 GMT
I was just looking at your line diagram - are the WB platforms really that much longer than the EB ones (and if so, why on earth were they built that way) or is that just a bit of artistic licence? I would think that the lift shaft and emergency stairs to the Piccadilly Line at the east end restricts the length of pfms1&2.
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Post by railtechnician on Dec 19, 2008 15:27:23 GMT
A friend has just asked me about a signal at Earl's Court. Apparently there is a purple single aspect at the Richmond etc end that comes on as a train approaches and then goes out as the train gets close. I said I assumed it was a tripcock tester. Was I right? Mike As Colin has said you are spot on but remember that even though it may appear purple or blue it is actually a lunar white aspect!
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Post by Colin on Dec 19, 2008 15:35:49 GMT
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Post by Tom on Dec 19, 2008 19:43:04 GMT
My understanding is any one of the three, depending on the lens fitted - though more modern ones all seem to have used lunar white.
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Post by citysig on Dec 19, 2008 20:28:56 GMT
I was always taught / under the impression that the colour was mainly dependant on location / surroundings etc. of the light. Clearly such a quirk has been lost under standardisation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2008 21:24:43 GMT
its proberly done on wotever lense they could find first in the stores
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2008 0:57:06 GMT
My training book says they can be purple, blue or white.
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Post by railtechnician on Dec 21, 2008 11:33:44 GMT
My understanding is any one of the three, depending on the lens fitted - though more modern ones all seem to have used lunar white. All I can say is that in my days in signals they were never referred to as anything but luinar white aspects. Having said that some of the lenses are clearly blue when not illuminated, indeed they are blue glass but with the correct bulb behind them glow white when illuminated. I am not so sure about the purple lenses as I have never had one in my hand but my belief has always been that they were plain glass painted purple to give a 'lunar' hue to a plain white light, most of those I saw appeared to have lost the purple tint at the centre of the lens perhaps due to heat of illumination over many years of operation. Of course it may simply be that my knowledge of the subject is not as full as it might be.
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Post by tubeprune on Dec 21, 2008 15:02:19 GMT
My understanding is any one of the three, depending on the lens fitted - though more modern ones all seem to have used lunar white. All I can say is that in my days in signals they were never referred to as anything but luinar white aspects. Having said that some of the lenses are clearly blue when not illuminated, indeed they are blue glass but with the correct bulb behind them glow white when illuminated. I am not so sure about the purple lenses as I have never had one in my hand but my belief has always been that they were plain glass painted purple to give a 'lunar' hue to a plain white light, most of those I saw appeared to have lost the purple tint at the centre of the lens perhaps due to heat of illumination over many years of operation. Of course it may simply be that my knowledge of the subject is not as full as it might be. From what I have been able to find out, there are two types. The older one has a glass cover plate (to SE099 spec) with a lamp behind it. I think these were the ones coloured purple. The newer ones have the white or blue stepped lens.
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Post by Tom on Dec 21, 2008 16:06:54 GMT
From what I have been able to find out, there are two types. The older one has a glass cover plate (to SE099 spec) with a lamp behind it. I think these were the ones coloured purple. The newer ones have the white or blue stepped lens. If SE099 is the spec I think it is, then those signs were used for all sorts of things, including Route Secure and Rear Cab Clear Visuals, as well as internally illuminated PSR signs. If so, they were the purple ones, Baker Street (B'loo) being one example of them.
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Post by tubeprune on Dec 21, 2008 21:11:39 GMT
From what I have been able to find out, there are two types. The older one has a glass cover plate (to SE099 spec) with a lamp behind it. I think these were the ones coloured purple. The newer ones have the white or blue stepped lens. If SE099 is the spec I think it is, then those signs were used for all sorts of things, including Route Secure and Rear Cab Clear Visuals, as well as internally illuminated PSR signs. If so, they were the purple ones, Baker Street (B'loo) being one example of them. That's it.
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Post by smasher on Jan 12, 2009 12:24:15 GMT
If my memory serves me right the tripcock tester approaching Waterloo on the Northbound Northern is purple.
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