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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2008 4:57:01 GMT
Would I be right in thinking that pilot or ballast motors working one each end of a train would have to be 'A' one end of the train and 'D' the other as per normal tube stock? As such, would a train with one each end have an odd-numbered motor one end and an even-numbered one the other? Thanks.
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Post by towerman on Nov 26, 2008 19:58:53 GMT
Standard stock wasn't "handed" as such,as long as you got the inter-car jumpers right you were O.K.
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Post by Ben on Nov 26, 2008 23:15:18 GMT
Towerman, are you sure about that? Granted it was car stock, but ever picture Ive seen of a DM or CT has an 'A' or 'D...or B!' on it
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Post by towerman on Nov 26, 2008 23:25:35 GMT
They were given A & B ends(B later becoming D) but this was only after 38TS came in,as built they weren't handed.I've worked on Standard ballast/pilot cars and we've had to cross over jumpers as they were opposite sides as if the cars were both either A or D ends.
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Post by Ben on Nov 26, 2008 23:52:52 GMT
Ahhh, that makes sense. I was thinking something along those lines after reading your post. Were the jumpers long enough to do that, or was an extension used? Presumably walking between the cars would have been...interesting  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2008 4:40:41 GMT
Thanks for that guys. I knew you would put me right. If anyone does pick me up on my formation I'll quote you! All I have to do now is build the things.....
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Post by ribaric on Nov 27, 2008 8:59:55 GMT
I don't recall ever using inter-car jumpers on ballast trains which used standard stock motor cars. I never did work on the stone grinder unit but the rubbish collecting train didn't have through control circa 1970-75. Probably that's the reason I don't recall the A/D end thing either.
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Post by tubeprune on Nov 27, 2008 11:29:32 GMT
Hold it folks! All tube stock was "handed" from Day 1. Even the original Gate stock had to face round the right way so that the main line and train line hoses would connect either side of the end doorway. For the full story: www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/coupling.htmand www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/Train Formation Diagrams.htm For ballast motors, they never did couple them properly, especially since many of the wagons didn't have a through brake pipe connection but if you wanted a through brake between two motor cars of the wrong type, you could just get a long train line hose and couple the two locos, whichever way round they faced. Ballast crews ran their trains any old way. |
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Post by ribaric on Nov 27, 2008 15:50:29 GMT
Ballast crews ran their trains any old way. So true. We always had a through brake of some description... with the exception of the Sentinel hauled trains between Lillie Bridge and Cripple sidings on the BR. One morning I was the 2nd man on the diesel when, having left Olympia and crossed over to the main line, it broke away from a string of BR rail wagons and brake van. The driver saw what had happened and stopped the loco..... Mistake! The rest of the train then caught us up and "heavy coupled" such that I bit through my tongue before bouncing off the door and down onto the floor. Another lesson learned the hard way. |
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Post by towerman on Nov 27, 2008 20:02:50 GMT
Used to have the extra long jumpers,if the pilots were moving rolling stock,plug one end into pilot car then jumper into jumper as many times as you needed it till you reached the other pilot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 19:27:49 GMT
Thanks guys. As a former Editor of the 'Railway Modeller' once said, there is a prototype for everything! I presume the same applies to battery locos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 9:42:43 GMT
One further question for you all. Were the 1930s batch (L35-L43) the same length as the 1950s ones? I keep looking into whether it is possible to make a 1930s one from a Radley kit! I realise the bodysides and roof are different but it has to be possible. That or maybe Metman could knock up an alternative body for one for the Radley kit!  |
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 7, 2009 10:57:47 GMT
One further question for you all. Were the 1930s batch (L35-L43) the same length as the 1950s ones? The bodies were the same length but the bogies were different and some had different wheelbases, single or double block rigging, different motors etc. |
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