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Post by rikio on Jan 29, 2006 21:05:12 GMT
I was just wondering... Due to a few (im)famous events, Daves sites talk about the procdeures when a train is taken the wrong way onto another line. But what is the situation if a train takes the wrong branch? I.E. Going to Richmond if the trains intended destination was Ealing Broadway. I would think that this would not be as serious, as obviously the driver will be trained on the route. Are all the same steps taken as when drivers go on a mini adventure to south harrow?  Rikio |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2006 21:22:03 GMT
In theory the driver would still be taken off the train and interviewed. In practice when the service is disrupted the matter is usually forgotten. An example was about a month ago when the driver of train 152 (Olympia train, with an Upminster driver) took the signal to Gloucester Road instead on High Street Ken, he was told to just run straight to Upminster and stable early, and he didn't hear anything more about it. Controller and DMT's had more to contend with.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2006 22:49:12 GMT
Well, it happened to me once (accepted signal into platform 1 at ECT when I was supposed to be reversing in the yard) and I was taken off and interviewed. But as there were so few spares, the whole interview/memo writing process had to place in 15 minutes, so was less than thorough! I was basically told not to do it again.
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Post by Colin on Jan 30, 2006 3:23:47 GMT
Of course the biggest problem is the passengers, cos they aint where they thought they was gonna be ;D ;D ;D
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Post by citysig on Jan 30, 2006 9:05:20 GMT
Of course the biggest problem is the passengers, cos they aint where they thought they was gonna be ;D ;D ;D Ungrateful bunch aren't they. I mean, it's not as if we charge them the extra ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2006 9:55:30 GMT
Of course the biggest problem is the passengers, cos they aint where they thought they was gonna be ;D ;D ;D Well, in my case they were fine, because I just told them the service was being "extended" to High St Ken! |
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Post by rikio on Jan 30, 2006 21:47:12 GMT
Jim and Adw, thanks for explaining that...
It all seemed to go a bit off topic after that.... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2006 22:48:36 GMT
Jim and Adw, thanks for explaining that... It all seemed to go a bit off topic after that.... ;D Really?? I didn't notice......   |
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Post by meteorological on Jan 31, 2006 13:35:42 GMT
OK meteorological: what about sheep and penguins?? ME AND PINGU ARE JUST GOOD FRIENDS, as for sheep I'm not from Wales. ;D |
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Post by meteorological on Jan 31, 2006 13:43:46 GMT
Meteorological is also a former colleague of mine on the Big Green Railway though has now deserted to the Rattly Old Maroon Railway Metrerological , there is nothing STUPID about taking a wrong stick whatsoever, merely a lapse of concentration which as some point all us drivers are guilty of when i was on the northern line i took the wrong stick at camden and ended up in plat 1 instead of plat 3 being a driver yourself, i find your choice of words rather baffling to say the least one day in the future you may well make a similar mistake yourself , take a wrong un at rayners and end up at south harrow yourself to err is human , I think I was aiming at a specific target and I think he got the joke, I have never accepted a wrongun despite being presented with several, the best one would be to tempt me onto the big boys line (where I now reside) while I was on the little green line, and invitation I didn't accept. I am waiting to get a wrongun at Aldgate back onto the green one, as the temptation will be immense to take it and try to get the train diverted to Barking for a reverse ;D  |
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Post by Harsig on Jan 31, 2006 15:51:55 GMT
I am waiting to get a wrongun at Aldgate back onto the green one, as the temptation will be immense to take it and try to get the train diverted to Barking for a reverse ;D Don't hold your breath. The way the system works it is far less likely for a train approaching the Aldgate area from Liverpool Street to be given a wrong signal than it is for trains approaching from Tower Hill or Whitechapel. That doesn't mean it can't happen but... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 16:05:27 GMT
If I was a passenger it would brighten my day to be on a District line service and end up at South Harrow, esp if I were going there - no need to change. ;D I have a feeling you wouldn't get the whole experience - I think you'd be detrained at the earliest oppourtunity. Shame really, as I wouldn't mind a change myself. Something like this nearly happened to me a little while ago - I was at Notting H G on Sun the 8th this month, it was around 15:15 (I think). As I came onto the Inner Rail platform the describers read 'Ealing Broadway'. Cool - I thought. Never been to EAL on a C Stock before. In came Train 76, complete with destination on blind (never seen that with my own eyes before either), and settled down for an interesting ride (living in Basingstoke I thought I'd make the most of this). All fell apart however, as soon as we hit EC it was announced it would be going to Wimbo after all - never mind. At least I can see a western C Stock journey on a certain DVD |
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Post by meteorological on Jan 31, 2006 16:07:33 GMT
I am waiting to get a wrongun at Aldgate back onto the green one, as the temptation will be immense to take it and try to get the train diverted to Barking for a reverse ;D Don't hold your breath. The way the system works it is far less likely for a train approaching the Aldgate area from Liverpool Street to be given a wrong signal than it is for trains approaching from Tower Hill or Whitechapel. That doesn't mean it can't happen but... I can dream |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 17:43:57 GMT
If I was a passenger it would brighten my day to be on a District line service and end up at South Harrow, esp if I were going there - no need to change. ;D I have a feeling you wouldn't get the whole experience - I think you'd be detrained at the earliest oppourtunity. Shame really, as I wouldn't mind a change myself. Something like this nearly happened to me a little while ago - I was at Notting H G on Sun the 8th this month, it was around 15:15 (I think). As I came onto the Inner Rail platform the describers read 'Ealing Broadway'. Cool - I thought. Never been to EAL on a C Stock before. In came Train 76, complete with destination on blind (never seen that with my own eyes before either), and settled down for an interesting ride (living in Basingstoke I thought I'd make the most of this). All fell apart however, as soon as we hit EC it was announced it would be going to Wimbo after all - never mind. At least I can see a western C Stock journey on a certain DVD That train was probably just diverted anyway, rather than taking a wrong stick. Giving train numbers, dates, and times may not always be a good idea, as you never know who is reading this forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 17:53:06 GMT
I have a feeling you wouldn't get the whole experience - I think you'd be detrained at the earliest oppourtunity. Shame really, as I wouldn't mind a change myself. Something like this nearly happened to me a little while ago - I was at Notting H G on Sun the 8th this month, it was around 15:15 (I think). As I came onto the Inner Rail platform the describers read 'Ealing Broadway'. Cool - I thought. Never been to EAL on a C Stock before. In came Train 76, complete with destination on blind (never seen that with my own eyes before either), and settled down for an interesting ride (living in Basingstoke I thought I'd make the most of this). All fell apart however, as soon as we hit EC it was announced it would be going to Wimbo after all - never mind. At least I can see a western C Stock journey on a certain DVD That train was probably just diverted anyway, rather than taking a wrong stick. Giving train numbers, dates, and times may not always be a good idea, as you never know who is reading this forum. No it was diverted - no operator had done anything wrong - I just thought I'd put a bit of background in (not the first time on the forum). I know it wasn't a 'wrong stick' just wanted to echo the thoughts 'Capital to Coast' had - that I wouldn't have minded going somewhere different on a different type of train myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 18:01:18 GMT
No it was diverted - no operator had done anything wrong - I just thought I'd put a bit of background in (not the first time on the forum). I know it wasn't a 'wrong stick' just wanted to echo the thoughts 'Capital to Coast' had - that I wouldn't have minded going somewhere different on a different type of train myself. The C stock Wimbledon to Edgware Road service is often diverted, if there are problems on the Wimbledon branch they are normally diverted to Ealing, if there are problems at Edgware Road they are normally diverted to Mansion House. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 18:06:27 GMT
No it was diverted - no operator had done anything wrong - I just thought I'd put a bit of background in (not the first time on the forum). I know it wasn't a 'wrong stick' just wanted to echo the thoughts 'Capital to Coast' had - that I wouldn't have minded going somewhere different on a different type of train myself. The C stock Wimbledon to Edgware Road service is often diverted, if there are problems on the Wimbledon branch they are normally diverted to Ealing, if there are problems at Edgware Road they are normally diverted to Mansion House. I'll have to look out for this next time I'm up, I don't get to see many diversions from Basingstoke. I'd never thought of the Mansion House bit but it makes sense |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2006 22:04:57 GMT
I've been offered three wrong signals in recent weeks... One was a less exceptional route into barking bay road, when I was an Upminster service. The other two were most unusual indeed :- The first was at Hammersmith eastbound, where I was given the route onto the Piccadilly Line , ooo, how tempting to test the function of the surface stock detector ... but unfortunately i knew a dim view would be taken on high  the other was from Dagenham East bay road where i was given the shunt signal into the rusty siding (even though i was a through Wimbledon service) also tempting as I've not been up that bit of track before, but having just caused a delay by a late pick up, this was not the time or place  |
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Post by Phil on Jan 31, 2006 22:08:56 GMT
I've been offered three wrong signals in recent weeks... Is this just bad luck, or are certain t/ops picked out for this sort of treatment?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Sounds like I should get you to pick my lottery numbers  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2006 0:05:48 GMT
I love taking C stocks to anywhere other than Wimbledon/Edgware Rd - makes a nice change, and confuses the passengers! Last time I took one to EBY someone came up to me at ECT; "You're not really going to Ealing r u ?" No, I just put it on the front (and the DVA, and the platfrom TD) for my own amusement! |
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Post by Colin on Feb 1, 2006 2:27:09 GMT
Giving train numbers, dates, and times may not always be a good idea, as you never know who is reading this forum. |
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