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Post by metman on Oct 15, 2008 21:50:23 GMT
On the way back from the pub after watching England win, I saw a site I've never seen before. A single ended unit (5136-7) working middle (ie white end) cab leading. The train of course was not in service. It went through Harrow platform 3. Where was it going-Ricky? How rare is this sort of move, I thought non active cabs would only work short distances.
The rare of the train said 'WEMBLEY PARK' and was set '451'.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 15, 2008 21:53:05 GMT
My pure guess is that it would be heading for the Watford triangle for turning.
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 15, 2008 21:54:28 GMT
451 is one of the Watford - Baker Street block. EDIT: I agree with Chris M, too.  |
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Post by upfast on Oct 15, 2008 22:04:57 GMT
451 is one of the Watford - Baker Street block. EDIT: I agree with Chris M, too. Might not be that time of night though. (not that I have a WTT on me MRFS!) |
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Post by ruislip on Oct 15, 2008 23:03:57 GMT
Couldn't it have been heading to Chesham?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 15, 2008 23:14:22 GMT
What would be the purpose of sending a single-ended unit to Chesham? afaik, they aren't allowed to run alone in passenger service?
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Post by towerman on Oct 15, 2008 23:19:31 GMT
Probably a turn round move eg:Neasden-Ricky-Watford-Neasden,they should be 7xx numbers I think.
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 15, 2008 23:46:40 GMT
Couldn't it have been heading to Chesham? and What would be the purpose of sending a single-ended unit to Chesham? afaik, they aren't allowed to run alone in passenger service? If it were, it would be 407........ ;D ;D |
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Post by tubeprune on Oct 16, 2008 6:12:31 GMT
You can ignore the train number. I expect the move was either to turn the unit or swap it with a unit at Uxbridge or Ricky. I suspect the former. You just get asked to take a unit to Watford to turn it. You go down the yard, call the tower when you're ready and then go when the stick clears. There's no train number, no particular path and no-one knows about it except the depot, the DMT who supplied the T/O and the control people.
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Post by metman on Oct 16, 2008 7:13:22 GMT
My feeling is that they were sending it to Ricky to join another four car set there. This unit was certainly not going to Uxbridge-there was no route indicator on platform 3. This train train then ran non-stop on the local line towards Moor Park-I was on the Watford train behind and as we passed Harrow North Junction I could just see the inner home at North Harrow was Green and Amber.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2008 8:31:35 GMT
Sounds like 714 2122 ex Neasden and booked LL to Watford (24 Rd) before running NC to Ricky and LL back to Neasden. Should have been right behind 426 2133 ex Harrow to Watford so likely to have been running late!
Most likely a turn move, unlikely to have been a balance at Ricky as usual practice would be to do an 8 car swap to avoid the shunting.
451 was due to stable at Neasden at 0027 and should have been on 2130 ex Uxbridge at the time, so unlikely to have been this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2008 10:13:25 GMT
was it a liquid lunch?! the only times i've handled units like this have been at lunchtime/early afternoon.
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Post by neasdena60 on Oct 16, 2008 17:41:33 GMT
i seem to recall it was a test run??
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Post by metman on Oct 16, 2008 17:42:54 GMT
Sounds like 714 2122 ex Neasden and booked LL to Watford (24 Rd) before running NC to Ricky and LL back to Neasden. Should have been right behind 426 2133 ex Harrow to Watford so likely to have been running late! Most likely a turn move, unlikely to have been a balance at Ricky as usual practice would be to do an 8 car swap to avoid the shunting. 451 was due to stable at Neasden at 0027 and should have been on 2130 ex Uxbridge at the time, so unlikely to have been this. Sounds like thats it then! There was also a rusty rail move in platform 2 waiting to run empty to Ricky. This was set 472. I imagine 421 on the back on the short train was an old number not yet changed! |
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Post by astock5000 on Oct 16, 2008 18:52:31 GMT
How rare is this sort of move, I thought non active cabs would only work short distances. I thought that middle cabs could run on the main line, but not in passenger service. Middle cabs on the Bakerloo 72TS can run on Network Rail tracks (if they have got a red front). |
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Post by DWS on Oct 16, 2008 20:21:50 GMT
You can ignore the train number. You go down the yard, call the tower when you're ready and then go when the stick clears. There's no train number, no particular path and no-one knows about it except the depot, the DMT who supplied the T/O and the control people. Well on the Jubilee Line all stock moves have a train number. |
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Post by neasdena60 on Oct 17, 2008 16:44:55 GMT
i saw another single ender going southbound at moor park, on the slow lines around 4 pm today.
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Post by metman on Oct 17, 2008 23:43:35 GMT
5136 formed the (Northern) leading end of train 421 this evening! It has been turned!
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