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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2008 19:04:57 GMT
I dont know if anyone has seen the new copy of Rail with a booklet from TfL Rail. show a new Overground map with Shoreditch High Street to Dalston Junction being delayed until Feb 2011 (instead of June 2010). www.flickr.com/photos/mackenzieblu/2929312700/I have since spoke to Overground and they have said Dalston to Shoreditch is still due to open in June 2010. Whole story is on my blog. Mack ;D |
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Post by cetacean on Oct 10, 2008 21:18:59 GMT
I wonder if the builders busy constructing Imperial Wharf know that it's "not yet committed"?
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Post by miztert on Oct 11, 2008 11:04:23 GMT
It's just a mistake on the part of whoever produced that map, as the orange and black dashed line ("ELL to Highbury & Islington opens 2011") should only have been used between H&I and Dalston Junction - this section was always going to open later than the rest of the line. However on this map the orange and black dashed line has erroneously been used as far south as Shoreditch High Street.
The short section from Dalston Junction to H&I was originally part of phase 2 (i.e. the extension to Clapham Junction), was was bumped up late in the day to become part of phase 1 instead.
Whether we'll ever see phase 2 get built is another question...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 4:19:03 GMT
I thought that all stations of old East London Line were supposed to become accessible? For example, I remember some talk about new lift shafts at Wapping.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 0:23:57 GMT
No, it's off the agenda now. While new build stations must be fully-accessible, the ex-ELL stations count as existing property and don't have to be modified if it's not simple to do so. Given the sub-surface locations it wouldn't be easy, quick or cheap to add step-free access to the core East London line stations.
Whitechapel: would have been given full step-free access if Crossrail happened, but that's looking unlikely. I would expect however that in the medium to long-term there will be a scheme worked up for step-free access, as it's a key interchange and serves the London Hospital.
Shadwell: there was a plan for a major rebuild of the station while the line was closed for conversion, which would have seen the old ticket hall reopened and step-free access added.
Wapping: I don't see this ever getting step-free access to be honest - while it might look fairly simple to hollow out space for another pair of lifts to go from the lower landing to the platform, in reality it would probably be quite tricky. More importantly the width of the platforms is such that it would be a safety hazard to allow wheelchairs/pushchairs.
Rotherhithe: would be fairly simple, but the station doesn't have a huge catchment area, serves no key facilities, and is close to Canada Water which can be reasonably used as an alternative.
Surrey Docks: much the same argument as for Rotherhithe, albeit that the station sees a bit more use.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 13, 2008 16:29:58 GMT
Is it me, or has Shepherd's Bush London Overground station already opened?
Why does it say Shepherd's Bush - opens late 2008 on a 2010 map?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2008 9:54:52 GMT
Is it me, or has Shepherd's Bush London Overground station already opened? Why does it say Shepherd's Bush - opens late 2008 on a 2010 map? Because its not a 2010 map. Its a mid 2008 map with what they want the Overground network to look like. In fact is more a 2012 ideal map as Phase 2 is on the map and that (as yet) doesn't even have funding! |
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Post by miztert on Oct 14, 2008 11:03:11 GMT
I don't know what you're on about mackenzieblu, it's quite clearly a map from the future - Rail magazine evidently have access to a time machine. The reason why Shepherd's Bush WLL station isn't marked as open is the same reason why Imperial Wharf station is floating some way away from the line it serves - the space-time continuum in the mind of the map's author was clearly suffering a little temporal displacement, I dare say the result of a merry evening the night before some time in the year 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 8:14:06 GMT
I don't know what you're on about mackenzieblu, it's quite clearly a map from the future - Rail magazine evidently have access to a time machine. The reason why Shepherd's Bush WLL station isn't marked as open is the same reason why Imperial Wharf station is floating some way away from the line it serves - the space-time continuum in the mind of the map's author was clearly suffering a little temporal displacement, I dare say the result of a merry evening the night before some time in the year 2010. It is a map showing future expansion and plans, but it was done in 2008 before Shepherds Bush was open, so mackenzieblu is spot on with his comments. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 18, 2008 9:05:32 GMT
Ohh right okay then.
So it was just the plans there for 2010.
Cool
Thanks guys
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Post by miztert on Oct 18, 2008 14:09:28 GMT
I don't know what you're on about mackenzieblu, it's quite clearly a map from the future - Rail magazine evidently have access to a time machine. The reason why Shepherd's Bush WLL station isn't marked as open is the same reason why Imperial Wharf station is floating some way away from the line it serves - the space-time continuum in the mind of the map's author was clearly suffering a little temporal displacement, I dare say the result of a merry evening the night before some time in the year 2010. It is a map showing future expansion and plans, but it was done in 2008 before Shepherds Bush was open, so mackenzieblu is spot on with his comments. It is remotely possible that my comments about maps from the future and time machines were just a tad tongue in cheek... |
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