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Post by upfast on Oct 5, 2008 15:49:40 GMT
Shepherd's Bush station on the Central line has now re-opened following the modernisation work.
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Post by Tom on Oct 5, 2008 16:23:45 GMT
And this was the date we were working to.
I was on call for the signalling works last night and spent the night with a design issue on my bedside table - thankfully it wasn't needed!
There's one more bit of work that needs doing for the ATO - this is going to take place tomorrow night.
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Post by 21146 on Oct 5, 2008 16:32:47 GMT
Shepherd's Bush station on the Central line has now re-opened following the modernisation work. Pity the TFL website and Ceefax both listed it as closed today (Sunday)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 16:41:01 GMT
the station building looks really nice
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 19:25:15 GMT
I'd like to know what happened to that old tiled mural that was at the top of the escy's.
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Post by 21146 on Oct 5, 2008 19:45:58 GMT
I thought that was just a large print of an old LT poster and put up in the 1980s?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 0:14:10 GMT
Used the station yesterday afternoon, busy considering journey planner didn't have it up as working and I saw no local publicity about the date. Upstairs is very metal and modern, platform level is the standard faux-classic style. I like it, very functional yet impressive ticket hall and platforms are a lot brighter than before. Still parts that need finishing like the tunnel walls/ads and a couple of signs.
Very obvious that Westfield had a hand in the main station entrance opening on 'their' side! Get down there before the crowds do for the shopping centre.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 10:09:41 GMT
Good stuff!
The comments I've had so far from people have been very positive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 15:17:11 GMT
I'd like to know what happened to that old tiled mural that was at the top of the escy's. probably acton mind you they are very pushed for space so probably a skip
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Post by 21146 on Oct 6, 2008 19:54:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 19:59:31 GMT
... Very obvious that Westfield had a hand in the main station entrance opening on 'their' side! Get down there before the crowds do for the shopping centre. What do you mean their side? Went through there today and there were two entrances. One was onto the main road and the 2nd was outside towards the bus station and overground station. Quite sensible I would have thought.
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 6, 2008 21:35:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 22:32:40 GMT
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Post by 21146 on Oct 6, 2008 23:37:39 GMT
A woman in a hi-vi was peeling these off during my visit!
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 7, 2008 9:55:55 GMT
It's definitely got a slightly unfinished look about it - nothing serious or major, but a few bits to iron out for sure. You can see a through the eastbound tunnel wall at one point to see a recess where they've stashed a load of equipment.
One thing that I've thought about since going there yesterday is how much they've got done in such a comparatively short time - impressive from that point of view.
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Post by Tom on Oct 7, 2008 16:40:26 GMT
A woman in a hi-vi was peeling these off during my visit! Sounds like the Project Manager - she caught me and asked about my temporary signage when I was having a nose around!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2008 19:36:04 GMT
its funny, i didn't know it was opening sunday till i booked on thursday or friday. being a good train operator i of course made PA's announcing this fact :-)
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Post by edwin on Oct 7, 2008 21:10:45 GMT
It's great to see it open again, and i'll definately have a look at this and the Overground station some time soon... But from the photos it doesn't seem there is any signage at platform level indicating an interchange with London Overground, why not?
edit: Found a vid of the refurbished station..
Things i've noticed...
-Escalators don't sound very new! -Annoying 'mind the gap' announcements at platform level -Ticket gates appear to be of the older (better) type -Route to Overground station not very clear...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2008 0:14:11 GMT
What do you mean their side? Went through there today and there were two entrances. One was onto the main road and the 2nd was outside towards the bus station and overground station. Quite sensible I would have thought. The main entrance goes towards the bus and overground station built to get people easily to Westfield and leads through to the centre. Obviously it has benefits being like that, but its almost like turning your back on the local area really. Agree with an above post about the lack of overground signage, however reckon that the surface interchange will become clearer once the building works are all finished.
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 8, 2008 8:01:39 GMT
The escalators don't look very new either - don't know whether it was just workmen using them before it opened, but the runners seemed very dirty for 1 day's use!
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Post by cetacean on Oct 8, 2008 9:35:09 GMT
They definitely are new, unless they gave up and left the old ones there.
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Post by ruislip on Oct 8, 2008 17:41:43 GMT
With all the renovation, why couldn't they have built an extra-passageway between escalators and platforms--so one could be to the trains and the other from the trains
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Post by Tom on Oct 8, 2008 21:07:30 GMT
I wonder if they've actually closed one cross passage off?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2008 21:33:28 GMT
The escalators are definitely new - type Otis HD.B
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Post by version3point1 on Oct 10, 2008 18:35:10 GMT
Not that I'm a cynic or anything or that I have a totally biased opinion against refurbs or all things new, shiny and metallic... www.flickr.com/photos/teflon/2928807821/www.flickr.com/photos/teflon/2929673306/www.flickr.com/photos/teflon/2928812651/The ticket hall looks almost like Stratford – well – it has the same thinking behind it, and that's from going along the unwritten rules of modern design of buildings and structures these days: light, airy, spacious (architects often go along with the concept that stations and their ticket halls should be unashamedly huge to make passengers unconsciously think more positively about their journey – something about 'the impact' the movement from a small space into a larger space has on a person)... Give it until the summer when the sun's blazing in and SA's on the gateline are going blind with the afternoon sun or suffering from the greenhouse effect. Then they'll be enlisting the help of Platform for Art to get some project-related vinyl decals that span the length and breadth of the glass to diffuse the light and heat (this is partly the reasoning behind why Stratford have decals on the mezzanine level – it's not just to look pretty). I also predict the ticket hall (and this goes for Wood Lane too) wins some prestigious design award in the following year. It's always the case. Well – at least it's open again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2008 18:53:37 GMT
I thought the decals at Stratford was to hide the building work going on behind them?
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Post by cetacean on Oct 10, 2008 18:56:55 GMT
(this is partly the reasoning behind why Stratford have decals on the mezzanine level – it's not just to look pretty). Aren't they on the north side of the building? I thought they were there to hide the construction work going on behind. I'm fairly sure they appeared around the same time. The windows on the south side are surely designed to reflect sunlight. I'm guessing the tower block opposite Shepherd's Bush will protect it form the worst of the sunlight.
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Post by version3point1 on Oct 10, 2008 20:17:32 GMT
I thought the decals at Stratford was to hide the building work going on behind them? Aren't they on the north side of the building? I thought they were there to hide the construction work going on behind. I'm fairly sure they appeared around the same time. That is also partly the reason, but decals have appeared long before building works took place in the Stratford area. An earlier project had taken place shortly after the new station had opened. Rostered and reserve staff on earlies and lates (when the sun was shining at the worst angle) commented that there was nowhere to stand where it wouldn't get in your eyes because there are so many panes of glass refracting and reflecting light in different angles. This is not the case. They actually make the sunlight worse because of the angle they are at (which is why we all breathed a sigh of relief when the station was covered in 'Back the Bid' decals!) Hopefully so. The worst case scenario is if the light shines through the glass in a particular way and then starts reflecting off other glass-like surfaces inside the station. A quirky and alternative lighting solution, but not nice for the eyes! Strong light shining on surfaces like the plastic screens on PODs on the gates also can create passenger flow problems; it is a common problem at Stratford during the evening and morning peak as customers can't see the arrows or crosses because they are too dimly lit and are practically impossible to see when the light reflects off the POD screens. A solution to this would be to change the matt-surface-like screens on existing PODs to that of the clear acetate used on WAGs, as well as using a similar LED system on the WAG PODs.
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Post by edwin on Oct 10, 2008 21:26:24 GMT
What do you suggest as an alternative? Dark stations?
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Post by version3point1 on Oct 10, 2008 22:50:08 GMT
Nay – just a common sense modification to current design 'standards'. At the moment it has been: whitewash, glass-sheet, metal and 'let's-put-that-there-because-it-looks-pretty'. Not, 'Let's think about the current problems we already have on the network with drainage/leaks/space/access issues/where everything is at the moment.' Just look at the SSL (or SSR, whatever) platforms at King's Cross St. Pancras. Don't get me wrong – I can see Shepherd's Bush is a great improvement from what it was, and especially in the time it has taken, but there was a day when designing a station actually required being original and incorporating functionality to the design, not just following the 'modernisation' blueprint and adding a few extra straight lines, pencil marks, 90º, 30º and 60º angles to the isometric drawings and tiling/plastering over what already exists/works well. Long term effects were thought out, which is why stations on the Underground have survived for as long as they have, though it is obvious that requirements of today request the changes that we're all experiencing. If people had actually concentrated on planning stations like Shepherd's Bush and other refurbs that were necessary, then all of these modernisation jobs would look less of a 'Changing Rooms' esque plan. All that time and money wasted on refurbing stations that in the grand scheme of things could have gone on for another 10-20 years (yes – the Uxbridge branch of the Met really needed to have all its station roundels replaced so that they matched current design standards) could have been used to ensure stations like Shepherd's Bush were turned around in the same time, but to a better standard. Because we all like duct tape on the walls and puddles on the floor of a 'newly refurbished/finished' station. The problem I'd previously stated regarding lighting is just one thing I'd like to highlight, and of course you can see other members have highlighted other issues with the station, which backs up what I said about design incorporating functionality (or 'actually putting some thought into something'). I'm not gunning down the refurbishment – definitely not – I'm just being critical because the fact the station has opened with an unfinished feeling is just so typical of many refurbs of late. Of course, you can't have everything, and like all new things they have their teething problems to begin with, but whatever happened to finishing a job off properly? The public and the staff deserve that. If you're not using Shepherd's Bush every day, think about the people who do, as well as the people who have to work there. To conclude with my original point about the gates and the effects of lighting at ticket hall level: Though the older UTS gates are more responsive, if somebody would just change the PODs to that on the new-style gates, we'd be sussed. It's just an opinion based on my experience of doing my time on the stations and having to work with members of the public who have to try every single gate there is on the gateline because they genuinely cannot see what direction the gates have been set. Freedom of speech, right? I mean, you've just asked me if I'd prefer a dark station. Of course I don't want a dark station, but if you don't understand where I'm coming from, then don't get all defensive. Rant over.
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