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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2005 22:08:24 GMT
So now that there is a statistically valid number of refurbished D stocks running on the District Line now, has any sizeable amount of data accumulated with regards to the mean time between failures (MTBF)?
I'm curious to know if they are more/less/similarly reliable to the unrefurbished units, mainly in terms of how easily the fitters at UDPT and ECDPT can repair them when they do break...
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Post by Colin on Nov 17, 2005 3:08:00 GMT
AFAIK, and will be happily corrected if i'm wrong, these trains are not totally under Ealing/Upminster's care yet. A lot of the added stuff - especially the pi$$ oops, passenger information system - is still the responsibillity of the 'project liason' bods. Obviously most maintainence is carried out by the train technitions, but *I think* they're still classed as 'bedding in'.
My opinion as a driver is that they are the same - no better, no worse.
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Post by Admin Team on Nov 18, 2005 17:37:57 GMT
I think there are one or two minor issues which seem to be appearing, but AFAIK there doesn't seem to be any fleetwide pattern of faults so far. I've heard of a couple of things anecdotally, particularly relating to doors, but I wouldn't descibe them as a major item. Whist I was on 'light duties' today I attached myself to the D Stock refresher Course being held at Ealing Common today, and for much of this we did use the train formed with west end unit 7088. This is (I think) the first to be fitted with the new driver's seat and I can say that whilst not quite as comfy as the old, it's range of adjustments seem far better and i reckon any driver should be able to find a pretty much ideal position for it. The only difference from the specification for it I noticed though was that the main pillar does have a gas lift - not the wind up type that was originally stated would be fitted. I was more than a little disappointed to see that some of the windows have already been 'etched' and one inter car door quite badly scratch vandalised  and wonder if the depot have downloaded the recorded CCTV for the day it happened - I hope so! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2005 17:54:05 GMT
I think there are one or two minor issues which seem to be appearing, but AFAIK there doesn't seem to be any fleetwide pattern of faults so far. I've heard of a couple of things anecdotally, particularly relating to doors, but I wouldn't descibe them as a major item. Whist I was on 'light duties' today I attached myself to the D Stock refresher Course being held at Ealing Common today, and for much of this we did use the train formed with west end unit 7088. This is (I think) the first to be fitted with the new driver's seat and I can say that whilst not quite as comfy as the old, it's range of adjustments seem far better and i reckon any driver should be able to find a pretty much ideal position for it. The only difference from the specification for it I noticed though was that the main pillar does have a gas lift - not the wind up type that was originally stated would be fitted. Is a gas lift better or worse than a wind up? I was more than a little disappointed to see that some of the windows have already been 'etched' and one inter car door quite badly scratch vandalised and wonder if the depot have downloaded the recorded CCTV for the day it happened - I hope so! I certainly hope so - I wonder if UDPT will throw a party every time they download a refurb's CCTV footage  |
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Post by setttt on Nov 18, 2005 20:06:08 GMT
Is a gas lift better or worse than a wind up? The 73s use a wind up and it's a complete PITA. I imagine gas lift is better. |
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Post by Admin Team on Nov 18, 2005 21:05:37 GMT
On the D of course the dirvers seat isn't bolted to the bulkhead - I think this probably has something to do with it! Personally I like the gas lift - quicker to adjust and find the right level! (Damn this finger  |
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Post by trainopd78 on Nov 18, 2005 22:27:26 GMT
The refirbs are coming back from Derby complete with original windows. It seems that the depot has a new way of buffing the etching off the windows. Some windows although almost free, the original etching can just be made out. Once free from Graf, the panes are fitted with the film layer.
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Post by orienteer on Nov 19, 2005 20:37:31 GMT
Entering ECT today to catch a wb Piccadilly, I saw a refurb headed for Richmond come in, so took it to Hammersmith. Good impression overall, but strange that the internal window glazing (some kind of mastic) on the doors looked so tatty. Is it the original, or have they just made a mess of redoing it? Literally seems to spoil the ship for the proverbial ha'pworth of tar (or mastic).
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Post by trainopd78 on Nov 19, 2005 22:56:08 GMT
I would hazzard a guess and say its a refit as the originals were and are very neat, especially on the doors.
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and wonder if the depot have downloaded the recorded CCTV for the day it happened - I hope so!
