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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 18:34:08 GMT
Hi all, I saw a picture in the paper yesterday showing the new Westfield shopping centre and compared this to a GoogleEarth image (maybe last year) which showed the sheds. I am curious as to whether the sheds are now covered over in this new centre or if they got rid of the depot completely. Anybody know?
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Post by DWS on Sept 3, 2008 19:00:21 GMT
Hi all, I saw a picture in the paper yesterday showing the new Westfield shopping centre and compared this to a GoogleEarth image (maybe last year) which showed the sheds. I am curious as to whether the sheds are now covered over in this new centre or if they got rid of the depot completely. Anybody know? Thanks. DOC The Sheds were kocked down, when the new underground sidings were built.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 19:02:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 20:13:46 GMT
Excellent. Thanks. Also wondered if anybody has any pictures of the RTC at White City they could send me a copy of or know of anywhere I can download some. I've looked at a few sites but can't find any. Late 80s-early 90s would be preferable but I don't suppose it changed much since it was built anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 20:50:27 GMT
Ahh, the Training Centre... before my time, 'fraid... Also known as The Crumps Towers, apparently!!!
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Post by DWS on Sept 3, 2008 21:26:44 GMT
I think Crump Towers was at Leytonstone
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 21:39:52 GMT
Did the model railway layout go to the museum, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Post by solidbond on Sept 3, 2008 21:46:54 GMT
Crump Towers is indeed nickname of the Train Crew Accommodation at Leytonstone, named after the former TCM, Len Crump. Which of course is where I now work as a DMT ;D ;D The model railway layout has been recreated, albeit in a reduced form, at Arsefilled House, but not sure if it is created from the old WCTC (White City Training Centre) one. And does anyone here remember the reaction of anyone who worked at WCTC, if you refered to it as 'the school' ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 22:01:20 GMT
Theres some pics in Robert Griffiths's book, Mind the Doors!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 6:08:14 GMT
Len Crump? That's a name that brings back memories. When I got through to the Interview for Train-Op back in '97 he was the bloke sitting in on the interview at Baker Street. They ripped me to shreds that day! One question that always sticks in my mind was: One of your colleagues turns up for work drunk. What do you do? Me being me replied:"Tell him to b*gger off home quick!" Now I'm sure we all know what they wanted to hear and sure enough I didn't pass. Didn't fancy the Central anyway! Only had to wait 3 months then applied again and got the Picc that I wanted anyway. ;D
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Post by tubeprune on Sept 4, 2008 10:01:39 GMT
Crump Towers is indeed nickname of the Train Crew Accommodation at Leytonstone, named after the former TCM, Len Crump. Which of course is where I now work as a DMT ;D ;D The model railway layout has been recreated, albeit in a reduced form, at Arsefilled House, but not sure if it is created from the old WCTC (White City Training Centre) one. If I saw it I could soon tell you. I spent many weeks teaching Rules & Regs in Room 102 upstairs where the model railway was located. It had facilities for coupling and automatic reversing as well as all the usual lever frame and push button operations. Teaching R&R was hard work since you usually had a mixed class of station supervisors, train crews and other odd and sods (like trainee Area Managers) so you had to cover everything. Single line working with a pilotman and a junction pilotman was the most complicated, I think. We used chalk and talk. We had a set routine where the obstruction was always on the top line of the diagram. One instructor (for a bet) tried to do it with the obstruction on the other line and got into such a mess he had to rub it out and start all over again. Where are you now Peter? I don't remember any reaction like that. It was variously referred to as "The School" or the "RTC". I worked there in 1970 as an Operating Instructor and some years later as a rolling stock instructor for car examiners. I came across one of my former students a few months ago who is now a senior person at Neasden.
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Post by ruislip on Sept 5, 2008 19:12:57 GMT
As a child who passed through White Cioty many times, I always thought there was some secret city where the trains enter the deopt
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2008 9:22:50 GMT
Does anyone have any pics of the coach that resided there. '999' was made out two accident-damaged trailers one of which was a rebuilt 1935 ex streamlined DM. Is it still in existance or was it torched?
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Post by Oracle on Sept 10, 2008 10:39:12 GMT
UndergrounD 10, page 23 has a photo of the Guard's compartment and the unusual ventilation grille. The cars used were 012488/11103. There was apparently an overrun accident in Tooting Siding in 1960 and the 'car' was created out of the salvage. The caption says it was used as a Guard's demonstarion unit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2008 15:14:46 GMT
It was an external shot I was after as it would seem that pics of rebuilt 'streamliners' are as rare as rocking horse droppings! Thanks anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2008 20:43:10 GMT
At least one of the Training Cars was salvaged from a shunting accident at Morden... The 1938 Tube Stock makes an excellent read on the Stremlined cars, and there is one pic of a rebuilt streamlined car!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2008 21:23:19 GMT
If you mean the Piers Connor book on 1938 tube stock it is a truly superb book but the only pic of a rebuilt streamliner is one taken during the rebuilding process and is no good for a sad anorak like me who would like to model one in '00' scale one day. I have never seen a pic of any of the coaches AFTER rebuilding. There is a better picture in the London Transport Rolling Stock and Locomotives book published by Ian Allen in 1978 but it is still a shot taken while the conversion was in progress. Of course, the lack of info is probably a good thing as, not only do I have enough in the way of modelling projects on the go but also razor saws make me nervous at the best of times. I have a left 1st finger whose scars bear testimony to that!
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Post by Oracle on Sept 11, 2008 21:37:08 GMT
Messrs Hardy & Connor's 1935 article in UD has two shots as I mentioned, both credited to LTE. They show work being done, with one car with the front removed and a lot of the interior. There is also an interior shot of one of the regenerative braking experimental cars.
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Post by towerman on Sept 12, 2008 0:13:26 GMT
The Underground rolling stock book from 64/65/66,not sure which year, had them in I'm sure but I don't suppose it's available now,the cover picture was of DR trains emerging from under Earl's Ct exhibition centre.
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