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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2008 15:52:03 GMT
For anyone interested, here are the results of the Norwegian Jury, observed over the last week. To keep it simple, it does not include the presentation or sizes of signs.
TEMPORARY BLACK ON ORANGE
Watford High Street to Headstone Lane, Willesden Junction, Kilburn High Road, South Hampstead.
South Acton, Acton Central, Kensal Rise - Hackney Wick all stations except Highbury.
Gospel Oak - Woodgrange Park all stations excelt Blackhorse Road.
Interesting that it is the second lot of temporary signs at Willesden Junction - the first lot were black on white.
STICK-ON WHITE ON ORANGE
Highbury & Islington, Blackhorse Road, West Brompton.
(What seems to be ) PERMANENT - BLUE ON WHITE WITH ORANGE LINE AT TOP
Clapham Junction (pfm 2), Barking (pfm 1), Watford Junction (LO platforms), Stratford (LO platforms).
If these are permanent signs, I find Stratford a little strange, as the platforms will be closing soon for DLR conversion and new LO platforms provided.
SILVERLINK SIGNS
Shepherd's Bush (not yet open).
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Post by cetacean on Aug 30, 2008 16:26:54 GMT
Interesting. I think it corresponds to: Watford High Street to Headstone Lane, Willesden Junction, Kilburn High Road, South Hampstead. South Acton, Acton Central, Kensal Rise - Hackney Wick all stations except Highbury. Gospel Oak - Woodgrange Park all stations excelt Blackhorse Road. All stations managed solely by London Overground, and due for full refurbishment. Stations managed by London Underground, but likely to have their LO platforms refurbished like the LO-managed stations. Stations not managed by London Overground, and presumably not due to be refurbished (with the exception of Stratford). What's the verdict on the shared tube ones? (Gunnersbury-Richmond, Queen's Park-H&W except Willesden) |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Aug 30, 2008 19:37:31 GMT
Ooh thanks  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2008 14:37:50 GMT
What needs refurbishing at West Brompton?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2008 14:46:06 GMT
What needs refurbishing at West Brompton? The platform signs ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2008 12:13:59 GMT
also silverlink signs remain at watford junction, one is still in place on the euston bound platform at soth hampstead at the kilburn end
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Post by dazz285 on Sept 2, 2008 15:34:17 GMT
Where abouts at Watford Junction?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2008 18:26:58 GMT
Watford Junction - LO platforms (1-4).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2008 19:10:29 GMT
I guess that it is a LM station
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Post by dazz285 on Sept 3, 2008 7:22:22 GMT
Platforms 1-4 have had new temp signs and there are a few new LO signs around the station. So I guess that there should be no old Silverlink signs linking the dc etc as somersetchris rightly states that Watford is a LM station. I'll keep my eyes open the ext time I'm up there.
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Post by dazz285 on Sept 5, 2008 15:08:20 GMT
also silverlink signs remain at watford junction, one is still in place on the euston bound platform at soth hampstead at the kilburn end Just been about at Kilburn High Road and South Hampstead and both stations have all new temp signs ... Black words on orange background. I have been told that this is going to the standard colours.... Dazz285 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 15:20:25 GMT
the one at south hampstead that I saw (after the new signage had been put up) was behind some wood boarding but maybe its been removed now.
I was in stratford a few weeks ago and that had a silverlink notice board with a map noting north woolwich
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Post by 21146 on Sept 5, 2008 19:36:51 GMT
South Hampstead and Kilburn High Road on Weds had quite a lot of new LO signage. New "stand behind yellow line - passing trains create turbulence" signs on walls (as if HSTs were operating!), new car-stopping marks, end of platform "do not pass this point, staff must obey safety regulations" (these are almost LU style); all in New Johnston in quality enamel and are quite clearly permanent. Despite the on-line LO sign manual no stations have yet gained any LU-style platform roundels (i.e. with blue bar and orange ring), I wonder if this is ever going to happen?
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Post by dazz285 on Sept 5, 2008 19:42:10 GMT
All the new black on orange signs state that they are temp signs
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Post by suncloud on Sept 6, 2008 10:04:47 GMT
... . New "stand behind yellow line - passing trains create turbulence" signs on walls (as if HSTs were operating!), ... The 0200 FSo departure from Euston is sometimes run by LO to Watford (with buses for destinations beyond), non-stopping most stations... so it does build up a bit of speed (but obviously not HST sort of speeds  ). Does that mean North of QPK that station starters have full speed overlaps? |
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Post by metman on Sept 6, 2008 10:38:18 GMT
Also, Bakerloo trains can get up some pace running empty from Harrow & Wealdstone to Queens Park!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 20:01:58 GMT
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Post by ribaric on Oct 22, 2008 21:29:34 GMT
I'm tempted to ask how much all this cost.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2008 9:37:22 GMT
I find interesting the need to give platform numbers on signs. This information is totally irrelevant to the punters, who want to know only which way to go to get to their destination. On a suburban system, the inclusion of platform numbers is unnecessary clutter.
But I accept that platform numbers can be useful at main line terminals and other major stations where trains for one destination can leave from a number of platforms.
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Post by 21146 on Oct 23, 2008 10:21:04 GMT
I find interesting the need to give platform numbers on signs. This information is totally irrelevant to the punters, who want to know only which way to go to get to their destination. On a suburban system, the inclusion of platform numbers is unnecessary clutter. But I accept that platform numbers can be useful at main line terminals and other major stations where trains for one destination can leave from a number of platforms. To be fair platforms can be useful to the emergency services. Apart from that matter, what's changed from Issue 1 esp as the rather permanent enemal name signs at Barking, Clapham Junction and Stratford don't seem to be covered in this manual? |
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Post by suncloud on Oct 23, 2008 10:31:12 GMT
I think there might be a compromise? These are NR stations... and it seems to be an amalgam of the standards...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 12:06:03 GMT
Had another trip round the LO network yesterday. Very little has changed sign-wise since my original post at the top of page 1.
Shepherd's Bush, of course, is now open, and the only station with LO signage to have (proper) permanent white enamel sheet roundels.
Saw 508.302 alive and well in service between Euston and Watford. Didn't see 303 though.
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