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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2008 22:00:01 GMT
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Post by towerman on Aug 15, 2008 23:31:54 GMT
The full Sunday service is the same as Saturday except that it's from 12pm-8pm instead of 9am-9pm.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 12:20:02 GMT
Slight aside, but in my view the Jubilee needs the same service-frequency as the Victoria line.
Since the extension opened, this line seems to be crowded to rush-hour levels all the time. I've stood on the platforms and seen them fill up within seconds of a train leaving - and for theDMIs to show the next train at 4 mins away or longer even in the peak. Woefully inadequate for a high-use line of it's type, imo.
Even the addition of the extra coach (and this line should have been 7-coach from the opening of the extension, in my view) didn't seem to do much to alleviate the crowding on this line.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 22:58:16 GMT
The problem with the 7th coach that I believe it spurred additional growth owing to its huge advertising... had it not been advertised to such a degree (other than a passing mention as the line had to close - could have said it was for "line upgrades") - I reckon crowding would have been alleviated for longer than it did.
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Post by 21146 on Aug 16, 2008 23:31:54 GMT
I've noticed for years that the JLE service interval is far inferior to other lines. Why is this? Is it the signal spacing that was never designed for manually-driven trains?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 23:33:12 GMT
Swlines, I really doubt that - come on, I doubt that anybody's line of thought went like "oh, they added one more coach to train on the Jubilee line, let's use it!". I don't think that most people even heard about extra coach addition.
As for the frequency, it really is ridiculous - as a constant user of the line (during both peaks) I see 5+ minute times between trains all the time. I recently spend an hour at my local station waiting for a date, and it went like 4 - 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 5 - 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 all the time...
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 17, 2008 19:15:00 GMT
That link isn't working. The problem with the 7th coach that I believe it spurred additional growth owing to its huge advertising... had it not been advertised to such a degree (other than a passing mention as the line had to close - could have said it was for "line upgrades") - I reckon crowding would have been alleviated for longer than it did. They should have realised that would happen if they advertised it all over a train.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 3:02:50 GMT
Swlines, I really doubt that - come on, I doubt that anybody's line of thought went like "oh, they added one more coach to train on the Jubilee line, let's use it!". I don't think that most people even heard about extra coach addition. Apart from that train that got a big colourful SEVEN CAR branding....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 11:42:04 GMT
In my view, LULs whole handling of the JLE phenomenin has been rather odd. Almost as if they've been continually taken by surprise by it's heavy usage from word go. I once heard they hadn't expected so many people to use it to travel from the north end of it through to London Bridge - as they thought people would continue to use the Thamellink from West Hampstead rather than just stay on the Jubilee!
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Post by Chris M on Aug 18, 2008 12:19:30 GMT
I also remember reading somewhere that they were surprised at the volume of passengers travelling all the way to Stratford. I got the impression they were expecting far more trains to reverse at North Greenwich than actually do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2008 12:24:23 GMT
I also remember reading somewhere that they were surprised at the volume of passengers travelling all the way to Stratford. It's bizarre, isn't it? I really don't understand how they've continually wrong-footed themselves over this line.
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