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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 17:34:40 GMT
You say they are past their sell by date, but there is little which goes wrong, or to go wrong with them. A complete overhaul and they would keep going for a lot longer. But that is not going to happen, unless FCC do theirs. By the way, as they are the oldest stock on the NR (aren't HSTs older?), does that make me a Heritage train driver? I stand corrected about the HSTs (and other heritage stock still in use)! Whilst little may go wrong with them, they remain a dreadful ride, imo, and do need a thoroughgoing overhaul. As you rightly point out, however, that's very unlikely given their imminent demise on LO. I can't see FCC continuing with these units for much longer either, tbh - although the condition of their 313s is far better than the old Silverlink/LO ones, in my view. My guess is that the remaining 313s here and there will eventually be replaced by variants on the new LO electrostars.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 17:37:59 GMT
The oldest stock is of course the 1938 Stock on the Isle of Widget. Then we have the two Lymington Flyers a few miles away from me, the 3-CIGs. The latter work well enough but they do have their problems occasionally! The Lymington branch is the nearest thing to running a heritage railway on NR I suggest. Pity I never did the Vale of Rheidol when under BR. True - although does the 1938 stock really count as they're ex-LUL stock rather than NR? There's also a very old diesel 1-car unit of some description that operates on one of Chiltern Rail's branch lines, iirc, but I forget what type of unit it is. Mind you - it could be argued all these semi-heritage stocks are something of an aside as they're not in widespread and common use in the way the 313s are.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 19, 2008 17:41:34 GMT
We had a thread quite recently about old stock NR still in revenue-earning service. I can't recall which thread it was now though :/
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 17:42:19 GMT
The 313's were OK when the NLL was less busy, but they are no longer up to the task. Let's face it, Silverlink let everything get run down for many years. Agreed. Although, so far, I've not exactly been overwhelmed by LO. Beside a lick of paint on the stations, oyster and the ramping up of revenue inspectoins, there's not realy been a great deal of difference, imo. Unless you count the fact that sections of it now often shut down at the weekend. What's the betting that this will just eventually become accepted as "the norm" (with no end in sight) as it has done with LUL?
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Post by happybunny on Aug 19, 2008 17:43:17 GMT
There's also a very old diesel 1-car unit of some description that operates on one of Chiltern Rail's branch lines, iirc, but I forget what type of unit it is. This one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_121 I believe it shuttles between Aylesbury and Princess Risbrough . Built in 1960
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 17:46:48 GMT
There's also a very old diesel 1-car unit of some description that operates on one of Chiltern Rail's branch lines, iirc, but I forget what type of unit it is. This one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_121 I believe it shuttles between Aylesbury and Princess Risbrough . Built in 1960 Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2008 18:45:16 GMT
Coincidentally the same year as the first A stocks!
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