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Post by jubileedaf on Feb 25, 2008 23:16:11 GMT
As we lowly T/ops and other similarly paid grades are set to hit the high earners 40% tax bracket this year. Will we now aspire to the world of the "White Collar worker"? Will we be able to claim expenses like fuel and business lunches. And for our bi-anual holidays (business trips to look at how they operate railways in nice hot countries hmmm?)?? lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 2:07:25 GMT
I want a company car ;D
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Post by tubeprune on Feb 26, 2008 7:13:44 GMT
I thought they gave you 6 of them!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 7:41:19 GMT
We'll have to wait for the Budget to be sure, but I don't think T/Ops are going to pay 40% tax.
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Post by Tubeboy on Feb 26, 2008 9:04:55 GMT
Anyone know what the increase will be this year? I heard 4.6%?
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Post by jubileedaf on Feb 26, 2008 11:23:59 GMT
Yeah aparently the rise will be 4.7% but we'll only just scrap the threshhold!! Because the RPI was quite high.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 13:18:43 GMT
It's actually Feb RPI plus 0.6%.
We won't know the RPI for Feb until about the middle of March. The figure for January was 4.1% and it's unlikely to be much different for Feb.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 16:13:49 GMT
i looked a while back at hmrc's site and i swear the 40% band starts at about 33500 Edit: its actually 34600
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 22:03:15 GMT
i looked a while back at hmrc's site and i swear the 40% band starts at about 33500 Edit: its actually 34600 But you need to add the personal tax-free allowance, which is over 5000.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2008 1:24:07 GMT
I thought they gave you 6 of them! I get seven. Does that mean I have to pay more tax?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2008 1:39:19 GMT
i looked a while back at hmrc's site and i swear the 40% band starts at about 33500 Edit: its actually 34600 But you need to add the personal tax-free allowance, which is over 5000. i'm sure that means the first 5k or so they don't touch but after they hit you, i cant imagine it'd be your salary for the year less 5k?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2008 7:59:19 GMT
www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htmFor 2007/08: Personal allowance (for most people) £5,225 Higher rate band over £34,600 Add the two together = £39,825 is what you have to earn before paying 40% tax on the remainder. If you're in the company pension (and you're mad if you're not!) then your contributions are also exempt from income tax, so in effect you can add your total pension contributions for the year to the £39,825 to reach the figure which you have to earn to be hit for 40%. Bear in mind that overtime and any 75% season ticket refund (not loan) will count as taxable pay! The figure for 2008/09 should be higher, but we won't know what it is until after the Budget next month.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2008 8:34:47 GMT
Sadly the 2008/9 details are already known - the budget is announced in November but largely implemented in April. (something to do with elections being in Spring and we'd forget by then how much HM Govt are screwing out of us)
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Personal Allowance : £5,435 Then £0 - £2,230 taxed at 10% Then £2,231 - £34,600 taxed at 22% Higher tax 40% starts at £34,601
So if you add your allowances thats:
First £5,435 is tax free Then £5,435 - £7,665 taxed at 10% Then £7,666 - £40,035 taxed at 22% £40,035 + is taxed at 40%
The biggest tax deductible allowance is pension payments, but there are more if you decide to investigate further.
The staff pass and PRIV were recently (from what I read) decided not to be classed as a perk, so are thus not taxable benefits.
If you have a lot of savings and nudging the 40% tax band would cost you dear, get financial advice and probably top up your pension with AVC's (or give a chunk to charity)
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Post by railtechnician on Mar 2, 2008 6:27:06 GMT
Don't I love it! As a LU pensioner my pension is less than £10K gross and I already know that my increase will only be 3.8% which doesn't go anywhere near covering the cost of living increase in 2007 let alone the coming year. Council tax is set to rise by 8%, not too bad if you are working but bad news on a fixed income. I actually believe we should have a wages and prices freeze!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 14:43:05 GMT
After today's Budget we know the tax bands for the coming tax year: www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/budget/budget_08/press_notices/bud_bud08_press02.cfm2008/9 tax year: Personal allowance £5,435 20% band £0-£36,000 40% band Over £36,000 So, to pay 40% tax your taxable pay needs to be over £5,435 + £36,000 = £41,435. So, unless inflation is absolutely massive in Feb 08, train ops will escape higher rate tax. Pension contributions are deducted from your gross salary, so reduce your taxable pay. The RPI figure for year ending 29 Feb 08 will be announced on 18th March and this will fix the pay rise.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2008 23:48:59 GMT
The staff pass and PRIV were recently (from what I read) decided not to be classed as a perk, so are thus not taxable benefits.
If you have a lot of savings and nudging the 40% tax band would cost you dear, get financial advice and probably top up your pension with AVC's (or give a chunk to charity) [/quote]
I wonder if they will try and tax me for the 2 free drinks I get courtesy of tubelines?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 9:49:02 GMT
Feb RPI is 4.1%, so pay rise is 4.7%.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 10:39:54 GMT
thanks adw, just got my council tax demand as well and its gone up by 5%!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 10:58:36 GMT
Got mine today, it's only gone up 3.9%, so I'm up on the deal!
Living in Kent, I don't have to pay for the Olympics or any of Ken's other schemes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 11:32:14 GMT
i got a pay increase of about 20p i think..... Joys of working in retail
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 14:31:55 GMT
Got mine today, it's only gone up 3.9%, so I'm up on the deal! Living in Kent, I don't have to pay for the Olympics or any of Ken's other schemes. i live in berkshire (slough borough) oh well i guess a 4.7% rise on a 5 digit salary still out weighs some rises on bills and taxes adding up to 4 digits
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 16:03:38 GMT
Anybody seen the thisislondon.co.uk site, apparently track operatives attract a minumin rate of
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 16:04:46 GMT
Feb RPI is 4.1%, so pay rise is 4.7%. Brilliant
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 16:05:18 GMT
Sorry left out the last bit as I fell off my chair---£48.10 per hour or £87,000 per year. Surely that cannot be true.
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Post by c5 on Mar 18, 2008 16:44:00 GMT
Sorry left out the last bit as I fell off my chair---£48.10 per hour or £87,000 per year. Surely that cannot be true. They are the charge out rates Metrodebt charged LUL for their staff. I doubt Tubelines are too different! I have been unable to decipher if it is the hourly rate that Metronet chage when their staff are required for non contractuall work that requires their presence (such as a Signalling Technical Officer to be present when work is taking place near their equipment) and then worked up into an annual amount??? There is something in that Evening Standard piece about £25k for 2 parking spaces. Thats nothing compared to costs of other work!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 16:52:56 GMT
so T/op pay is now £40111 ish and just under the 40% tax so it works out ok BUT the higher NI so are we better off if so how much more take home on paydays ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 18:52:34 GMT
I used that BBC Budget Calculator, and I'll be better off by around £256 by this time next year... Your own circumstances will dictate if you are +/-
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 19:01:01 GMT
so T/op pay is now £40111 ish and just under the 40% tax so it works out ok BUT the higher NI so are we better off if so how much more take home on paydays ? news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/7290230.stm£26 a year better off apparantly (as a rough guide), that's if you don't drink, smoke, drive a car, fly abroad etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 19:26:57 GMT
Yet but thats if i was on £40111 07/08 but i was not i was on £38311
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2008 21:37:58 GMT
Well, its official.
Febs RPI was 4.1%
So this means we get a 4.7% pay increase.
I/O's are now on £41854
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