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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2008 7:11:27 GMT
For ease of travel, I took the Jubilee line yesterday, from Kilburn (easy to reach by bus from here) to Bond Street.
At Finchley Road, the driver announced that customers could change there for the Metropolitan Line, and that a train just coming in was to "Aldgate" - which I put in quotes as it was said as in "Al" (like Alan), rather than "All" like the way it is normally said.
Then another funny came at Baker Street. It was of course very prudent to announce at a station with so many connections that there was no service between Green Park and North "Green-witch" (how he said it).
All in all it was a fine journey, though.
On a related (as it was coming back from what we were doing) but otherwise different note, we were coming back starting at Charing Cross. There were notices on the gates at the Trafalgar Square side of the station indicating that there was no down escalator and to enter via Strand instead. David said "It might be easier to get the Jubilee Line" - he had forgotten that there had been no Jubilee from CX since November 1999, and also that the trains were terminating at Green Park anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2008 15:30:08 GMT
In the early days of the Hampstead tube, the company received many complaints about the staff shouting that trains were going to "Ampstead" or "Ighgate".....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 21:14:22 GMT
Ampsitd's and Igits... Plar-stow, not Play-stow, Row-ding Valley, not Rodding...
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Post by Chris M on Jul 7, 2008 21:53:26 GMT
Lau(rhymes with how)-ton not Lore-ton as on the iBus thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 22:55:55 GMT
Just out of interest - how does the DVA pronounce Theydon Bois?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2008 9:46:02 GMT
To the person who started this thread...............
I have no idea if you are a driver or not. Nevertheless, you should be pleased that Train Op's are actually making an effort and are trying their best. If all you can do is take the pi$$ then I suggest you don't bother using the Jubilee Line anymore.
Yes, I am a train op and yes, I do make announcements. Luckily for me my diction is normally clear and precise. Fortunately for me, I am not the person you are having a dig at. I suggest you plug yourself into your Ipod and ignore all driver messages as they appear not to reach your high standards or as I wrote earlier, use another line.
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Post by Tubeboy on Jul 10, 2008 10:25:58 GMT
Maybe the driver's first language is not English?
As to Theydon Bois, its Boys!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2008 10:26:20 GMT
I don't think anything bad was meant by that post........to me it seems like a mere observation. As for not using the Jubilee Line anymore.....I bet thousands of people would jump at the chance! I certainly don't miss working on the line.............as for T/Ops making an effort that is a good thing, I remember the amount that never made announcements at all, especially when I was at Waterloo and we had no interchange at the next station, Westminster during engineering works. Used to cause the station staff on the group no end of grief, so I agree it is good that said driver was usings his PA's  That said, if I had a pound for every time some one said 'Westminister' or 'Kings Cross St Pancreas'............... Note how the first post stated, "It was a fine journey though" |
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Post by glasgowdriver on Jul 10, 2008 13:16:26 GMT
totally agree with alex having worked with alex at waterloo before i got rostered at westminster the amount of drivers that gave us grieff was unbelievable i am not having a dig at drivers as there are alot of good ones out there but how hard is it to pick up a phone/handset and do a simple PA.
like i say i dont want to offend any drivers/t/ops but there are alot of drivers out there that seem to forget we all work for the same company and sometimes a bit of help to us station staff can make our day alot easier
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2008 8:58:00 GMT
Mitcham, you must remember that unless there is a whiteboard up for the driver to read from they will not say a single word. We do not memorise what is going on with every line on the underground (and don't forget, the Jubilee Line goes through every line - in fact when the East London line was open, the Jubilee Line was the ONLY line to go through cross every line).
From personal experience I can tell you that it is nearly impossible to see the whiteboard at Westminster on the southbound.
There are many other stations like that. You should try and sit on the front of a train and see what I see (or don't see as the case is).
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Post by glasgowdriver on Jul 11, 2008 9:14:16 GMT
i totally agree with you peddoors and like i say i was not having a go at drivers but from experiance i personally have put up whiteboards in the past and angled them in a way on the southbound so that the t/op can see it and majority them dont even bother doing the pa's. but like i have said there are alot of drivers out there that do make an effort its the ones that doing that make it a nightmare for the rest of us. however i am sure your one of the good guys  |
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Post by happybunny on Jul 11, 2008 13:30:03 GMT
I think it doesn't necessarially depend on the station concerned putting up the whiteboards.. for example if there is no Jubilee between Green Park and Stratford, you don't really need a sign up at Westminster, you need them up at SJP EB and Embankment WB. If you arrive at Westminster and then see the sign by the time you read it and announce the info to the passengers, most of them who want to get off and change will have already done so!
Also it is quite annoying when notices are left up after the disruption... recently I recall a notice at West Ham EB headwall, on a Wednesday morning. It was informing about engineering work on the Jubilee, which took place the previous weekend ! It did make me wonder that in all the station checks that must have taken place between Sunday COT and that day, why nobody had noticed the out of date notice and removed it !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 11:13:58 GMT
It certainly happens to me at different stations along the Jubilee line. Many a time have I seen whiteboards (or A4 sheets of paper) which are at least 3 or 4 days old. Nobodys perfect but it seems to me that there is a lot more 'slaging off' that comes from the station side aimed at the t/ops than the other way around.
Thats just IMO.
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Post by Alight on Jul 14, 2008 19:16:23 GMT
peddoors, Hi, I admire your diction actually because it can be annoying when it is very difficult to understand the driver (usually the reason being it is muffled/abrupt). Luckily we have DVAs these days, but London Overground is a classic example in which passengers must listen to drivers announcing live. Obviously it is of no fault of the driver what their diction or pronunciation is like, and it is really difficult to work in tandem with the speaker system hence it can at times be quite tedious listening to the announcer! (in this case it is not as if they are making a special effort as I believe LO trains must be manually announced). So yeah I am going to stay balanced and see yes it is not nice to have ago at a driver's way of saying things, but at the same time I feel it was really unfair the way you spoke to the thread creator and I agree with Alex, no offence was intentional (I wouldn't of thought) so lets put the argument and bad language behind us all! |
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Post by superteacher on Jul 14, 2008 21:38:30 GMT
Maybe the driver's first language is not English? As to Theydon Bois, its Boys! Yes, but the 92 stock DVA pronounces it as "Boyce." |
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