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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 19, 2008 0:59:16 GMT

Post by jimini on Jun 19, 2008 0:59:16 GMT

Latest circular e-mail from TfL about the DLR works:

An intensive programme of works is underway on DLR to enable three-carriage
trains to operate from 2010, increasing on-board capacity by 50 per cent.

These works mean some short term changes to DLR services including reduced
services between Lewisham and Crossharbour and the temporary closure of
Tower Gateway station.

For further information see below or download a leaflet.
Tower Gateway improvements.dlr.co.uk/pdf/Leaflet%20-%20Wave%202.pdf
Lewisham to Crossharbour
improvements.dlr.co.uk/pdf/Lewisham%20to%20Crossharbour%20pocket%20guide.pdf

Lewisham - Crossharbour reduced services

From 30 June until 25 August 2008 services between Lewisham and
Crossharbour will significantly reduce to every 10 minutes. This will mean
many passengers will be unable to board trains during peak times.

Services on this route will operate between Lewisham - Island Gardens and
between Island Gardens - Bank in each direction. At Island Gardens
passengers will have a step-free, cross-platform interchange to continue
their journey.

These service changes are required as trains operate on a single track
between Lewisham - Island Gardens and Mudchute - Island Gardens during
construction to extend platforms. Trains will continue to serve all
stations, however it may become necessary to temporary close some stations
if they become overcrowded.

Passengers who board at Cutty Sark and Mudchute are advised to use an
alternative station.
Cutty Sark passengers can use the foot tunnel to Island Gardens where a
10 minute service to Bank via Canary Wharf will be available.
Mudchute passengers are advised to use Crossharbour station where a 3½
minute service to Bank via Canary Wharf will operate.

Four supplementary bus services will operate Monday to Friday at peak times
to support train services.

06:30 to 10:30* - northbound only, 15:30 to 21:00 - southbound only
Routes operate in one direction only.:

DLR1:
Island Gardens-Canary Wharf - via Mudchute, Crossharbour and South Quay (on
Limeharbour), up to every 5 minutes.

DLR2:
Lewisham-Cutty Sark - via all stations, up to every 3 minutes.

DLR3:
Greenwich-North Greenwich express - via Cutty Sark, up to every 3 minutes.

DLR4:
Lewisham-North Greenwich express - via Cutty Sark, every 10 minutes (*07:00
to 09:30 in the morning peak)

Please use the supplementary bus service or alternative travel routes
wherever possible, ensuring that your ticket or Oyster card is valid for
any journey you make.

A valid ticket or Oyster card is required for the bus services. Please
allow extra time for your journey.

Tower Gateway temporary closure

Tower Gateway station will close from the end of service on 27 June 2008
until Spring 2009 for platform extension and escalator upgrade works.

Once completed, passengers will experience:
More space on platforms
Longer canopies with increased weather protection
Easier boarding and alighting from trains
New energy-saving escalators

During this closure, passengers will need to use alternative routes. For
travel planning and advice use Journey Planner at
journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk.

Please bear with us while we build you a better railway.

If you would like further information visit www.dlr.co.uk/improvements. If
you would like copies of the leaflets please call DLR Customer Services on
020 7363 9700.

Customer Services T +44 (0) 207 363
Serco Docklands 9700
Castor Lane F +44 (0) 207 363
Poplar 9532
London
E14 0DS cservice
@dlr.co.uk

www.serco.com

Colin Advisor My preserved fire engine! Posts: 11,310	Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 19, 2008 14:45:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Colin on Jun 19, 2008 14:45:16 GMT LU's ELC (East London line replacement bus service) will be diverting to serve Deptford Bridge station also, during the affected period.
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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 20, 2008 18:21:16 GMT

Post by astock5000 on Jun 20, 2008 18:21:16 GMT

This is so that Mudchute, Greenwich, Deptford Bridge and Elverson Road will be extended for the 3 car trains, extending one platform at a time, with the trains using the other platform. But how are they going to extend the platforms at Lewisham?
The other stations on the Bank - Lewisham route that haven't been extended yet are Limehouse, Westferry and Crossharbour. Shadwell and West India Quay are being lengthened at the moment, South Quay will be replaced, Cutty Sark can't be extended, and all others are already long enough.

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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 20, 2008 19:17:34 GMT

Post by Chris M on Jun 20, 2008 19:17:34 GMT

Jun 20, 2008 18:21:16 GMT astock5000 said:

But how are they going to extend the platforms at Lewisham?

From the Google air photo it looks like the station box is approximately the same length as the 6-car Southern/Southeastern train that is helpfully in the mainline station, and it doesn't appear to taper at all.
I don't have any figures to hand about relative lengths, but I would be surprised if a 3-car DLR train was longer than a 6-car mainline train.

If the platforms will extend beyond the current box, it looks from the air photo that a small additional land take would be required. On the north-east side there is a car park entrance that could probably be realigned with little fuss.

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astock5000 Posts: 2,320	Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 23, 2008 20:24:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by astock5000 on Jun 23, 2008 20:24:59 GMT But the platforms don't go past the steps.
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franknapo Guest	Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 23, 2008 22:07:48 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by franknapo on Jun 23, 2008 22:07:48 GMT A single B92 Car is about 30meters including the coupler head if that helps

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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 23, 2008 23:12:07 GMT

Post by Chris M on Jun 23, 2008 23:12:07 GMT

Jun 23, 2008 20:24:59 GMT astock5000 said:

But the platforms don't go past the steps.

I don't understand what you mean?
The platforms aren't currently long enough, but it looks to me like there is room to extend them north without too much work.

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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 24, 2008 0:49:11 GMT

Post by cetacean on Jun 24, 2008 0:49:11 GMT

I think the station box is big enough. It's just there's a lot of infrastructure at the north end that'll need relocating, like the staircase astock5000 referred to, that connects to the north end of the island platform and may well be too wide to extend the platform past.

astock5000 Posts: 2,320	Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jun 30, 2008 16:00:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by astock5000 on Jun 30, 2008 16:00:16 GMT developments.dlr.co.uk/enhancements/capacity/overview.asp Lewisham Platform extension to north end of station.
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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jul 2, 2008 20:32:01 GMT

Post by jimini on Jul 2, 2008 20:32:01 GMT

Well, it's been an interesting few days since the changes took effect. I've been walking instead for the most part, so have therefore avoided most of the chaos. The Greenwich foot tunnel has been very well utilised in the absence of a normal DLR service! I have tales from colleagues about having to walk from the Wharf to Lewisham because of the severe congestion.

One thing that's always impressed me about the DLR though, is its flexibility in times of service disruption. Last night I was on the very busy northbound platform at South Quay about six-ish. There was an eight minute gap before the next Bank train was due in, and the platform was getting severely overcrowded, but there weren't any staff there to alleviate the situation. The solution to the problem? I was looking up as the next southbound train approached to see whether it was for Island Gdns or Crossharbour, when an empty unit came flying round the bend, ran bang-road into platform 2, picked everyone up in less than 30 seconds, and then proceeded back towards Heron Quays.

Also, I was wondering whether people still getting the DLR ~~replacement~~ enhancement bus service will be able to claim their fare back from the DLR for being delayed for more than 15 minutes, or does the nature of the work mean that this process is not applicable in this instance? I know on paper that it's not a delay of >15 minutes, but in reality it's taking most people at least an extra 20-30 minutes once all the queueing / bus journeys are taken into account.

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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jul 16, 2008 23:07:37 GMT

Post by rrbs on Jul 16, 2008 23:07:37 GMT

Jun 19, 2008 14:45:16 GMT Colin said:

LU's ELC (East London line replacement bus service) will be diverting to serve Deptford Bridge station also, during the affected period.

The ELC is not 'diverted' as such, it happens to pass those stops on its normal route. As the ELC is not that busy, I offered to DLR to stop it at Deptford High Street in case it could mop up any of their customers. I have no idea if it does or not.

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astock5000 Posts: 2,320	Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest. Jul 28, 2008 11:22:58 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by astock5000 on Jul 28, 2008 11:22:58 GMT Update on the work at Mudchute (that is causing the reduced service): londonconnections.blogspot.com/2008/07/mudchute-dlr-station-progressing-well.html
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Reduced service south of Crossharbour - latest.

Post by jimini on Jun 19, 2008 0:59:16 GMT

Post by Colin on Jun 19, 2008 14:45:16 GMT

Post by astock5000 on Jun 20, 2008 18:21:16 GMT

Post by Chris M on Jun 20, 2008 19:17:34 GMT

Post by astock5000 on Jun 23, 2008 20:24:59 GMT

Post by franknapo on Jun 23, 2008 22:07:48 GMT

Post by Chris M on Jun 23, 2008 23:12:07 GMT

Post by cetacean on Jun 24, 2008 0:49:11 GMT

Post by astock5000 on Jun 30, 2008 16:00:16 GMT

Post by jimini on Jul 2, 2008 20:32:01 GMT

Post by rrbs on Jul 16, 2008 23:07:37 GMT

Post by astock5000 on Jul 28, 2008 11:22:58 GMT