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Post by uzairjubilee on Jun 18, 2008 19:00:28 GMT
Does anyone have a list of what can be displayed on the roller blinds?
Uzair
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Post by ruislip on Jun 18, 2008 20:19:55 GMT
Here is a list, some of which may be incorrect/incomplete:
Aldgate
Moorgate
Baker St
Neasden
Wembley Pk
Harrow
Uxbridge
Ruislip
Rayners Lane
Watford
Rickmansworth
Chalfont
Chesham
Amersham
Fast Amersham
Fast Baker St
Fast Aldgate
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 20:23:25 GMT
Add Hillingdon and Liverpool Street to the list.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jun 18, 2008 20:59:00 GMT
Awesome thanks you two.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 21:35:51 GMT
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Post by metman on Jun 18, 2008 21:57:37 GMT
As far as I know they have:
ALDGATE
FAST ALDGATE
LIVERPOOL ST.
MOORGATE
BAKER ST.
FAST BAKER ST.
NEASDEN
WEMBLEY PARK
HARROW
RAYNERS LANE
RUISLIP
HILLINGDON
UXBRIDGE
NORTHWOOD
WATFORD
RICKMANSWORTH
CHALFONT
CHESHAM
AMERSHAM
FAST AMERSHAM
Sorry not in service
SPECIAL
SHOREDITCH
WHITECHAPEL
SHADWELL
SURREY QUAYS
NEW CROSS
NEW CROSS GATE
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Post by superteacher on Jun 18, 2008 23:15:13 GMT
Am surprised that LIVERPOOL ST is on the blinds - the bay was closed off years ago, and although it is technically possible to reverse an A stock in the outer rail platform, it requires tripping past the starting signal, so a lot of faffing around. It would only be used in very exceptional circumstances.
Unless the blinds haven't been updated for many years, I can't see why they would keep it on the list.
The only place missing from the blinds I can think of where Met trains could be turned is KINGS CROSS.
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Post by suncloud on Jun 19, 2008 8:45:20 GMT
Liverpool street would be helpful for when Aldgate is closed to pax, but trains may still be reversed there.
When A stock ran from the Met main to te ELL, would it ever do so in service as far as Liverpool Street?
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Post by maxtube on Jun 19, 2008 11:34:36 GMT
The only place missing from the blinds I can think of where Met trains could be turned is KINGS CROSS. I don't think that trains can reverse at King's cross, the little-used bay platform was filled in after the fire in 1987. |
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Post by setttt on Jun 19, 2008 11:39:41 GMT
The only place missing from the blinds I can think of where Met trains could be turned is KINGS CROSS. I don't think that trains can reverse at King's cross, the little-used bay platform was filled in after the fire in 1987. Reversal at Kings Cross is via the trailing crossover east of the station. |
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Post by Colin on Jun 19, 2008 14:34:20 GMT
When A stock ran from the Met main to te ELL, would it ever do so in service as far as Liverpool Street Nope - A stock transfers were always out of service. |
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 19, 2008 17:28:50 GMT
Nope - A stock transfers were always out of service. Was this because they ran as 4-car? |
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Post by 21146 on Jun 19, 2008 18:20:51 GMT
I believe the original blinds as delivered (with narrow lettering) included both CIRCLE LINE and HAMMERSMITH. Be nice to have this confirmed.
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Post by Colin on Jun 19, 2008 18:48:31 GMT
Was this because they ran as 4-car? I would suspect it had more to do with the fact that all stock transfer trains: - were RR in the working timetable (runs if required)
- could be 4 or 8 car (depending on requirements)
- could involve moving defective trains
- liable to cause a hold up whilst being detrained [if in service]
- were only driven by ELL drivers, so they wouldn't have been that familiar with the stopping marks at platforms
So rather than say sometimes we'll run 'em passenger and sometimes we won't, it's just easier to run them all empty. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 19:04:16 GMT
When A stock ran from the Met main to te ELL, would it ever do so in service as far as Liverpool Street Nope - A stock transfers were always out of service. I know of one pressed into service between Aldgate East and Baker Street during severe disruption some time back. |
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Post by metman on Jun 19, 2008 21:46:02 GMT
Trains would reverse in Aldgate platforms out of service if they had LIVERPOOL STREET on the blind-they did during a strike a few years back!
I'd love to know what else is on the blinds!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2008 22:53:11 GMT
As far as I know they have: ALDGATE FAST ALDGATE LIVERPOOL ST. MOORGATE BAKER ST. FAST BAKER ST. NEASDEN WEMBLEY PARK HARROW RAYNERS LANE RUISLIP HILLINGDON UXBRIDGE NORTHWOOD WATFORD RICKMANSWORTH CHALFONT CHESHAM AMERSHAM FAST AMERSHAM Sorry not in service SPECIAL SHOREDITCH WHITECHAPEL SHADWELL SURREY QUAYS NEW CROSS NEW CROSS GATE Only the double ended units had the East London line destinations on the blinds. There is also a blank red display on either end of the blinds which is supposed to be shown if a taillight is not working |
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Post by setttt on Jun 20, 2008 11:48:30 GMT
Farringdon is also on there too.
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Post by ruislip on Jun 20, 2008 14:33:50 GMT
I believe the original blinds as delivered (with narrow lettering) included both CIRCLE LINE and HAMMERSMITH. Be nice to have this confirmed. Same here. Makes me wonder if there was a plan to use the A stock on these lines. |
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Post by Ben on Jun 20, 2008 14:54:11 GMT
Quite possibly. Of course the C stock was designed in 2 car units to enable the upgrade to 8 cars on all subsurface lines...
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Post by metman on Jun 20, 2008 17:44:56 GMT
I believe the original blinds as delivered (with narrow lettering) included both CIRCLE LINE and HAMMERSMITH. Be nice to have this confirmed. Same here. Makes me wonder if there was a plan to use the A stock on these lines. Doubt it! The A stock could fit in the tunnels!! |
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Post by ruislip on Jun 20, 2008 18:04:44 GMT
If the original blinds had Circle Line and Hammersmith on them, why didn't they have destinations at the other end of the H&C like Whitechapel and Barking?
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Post by metman on Jun 20, 2008 18:09:30 GMT
That question, I cannot answer!
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 20, 2008 18:33:55 GMT
Could the plan have been to rebuild the Circle/H&C for A stock, and run Hammersmith to Aldgate? But even if A stock could fit on the Circle, the door/seating layout on A stock isn't designed for the Circle.
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Post by metman on Jun 20, 2008 18:46:56 GMT
I doubt they would rebuild the tunnels! The seating would work as you say! CP stock was quite happy on the Circle line in 1960, although the F stock would have been better!
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Post by Ben on Jun 24, 2008 5:27:21 GMT
Maybe the idea was one standardised blind for all future stocks that would travel on the northern half of the circle?
In much the same way the R stock had Circle Line and Hammersmith Met on them.
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Post by c5 on Jun 30, 2008 13:24:41 GMT
I don't think that trains can reverse at King's cross, the little-used bay platform was filled in after the fire in 1987. Reversal at Kings Cross is via the trailing crossover east of the station. Or off the platform W->E ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 23:25:10 GMT
The bay at Kings Cross was never used for regular services - from what I recall reading it wasn't electrified.
It was removed and filled in around the early- to mid-60s and simply became a long wide concourse between the platforms. It certainly had gone by the time the Victoria line opened, although it was easy to comprehend where it had been.
The 1988 post-fire work was actually to build the UTS ticket office on the northern side of the concourse, and more recently that office was replaced by the Western tickle hall. The steps to that have completely obliterated the site of the bay.
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Post by abe on Jul 1, 2008 7:58:24 GMT
Only the eastern half of the bay platform was filled in originally. For many years prior to the construction of the Western Ticket Hall there was still a single, unelectrified track connected to the inner rail; this ran for some way along the bay. Most of the rest was filled in as part of the recent works to extend the concourse and add the new steps.
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