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Post by uzairjubilee on Jun 12, 2008 17:56:35 GMT
Hey guys. I have a list of where the Jubilee Line can terminate short as some people like to find out about this:
Canary Wharf
Canons Park
Green Park
Finchley Road
London Bridge
Neasden
North Greenwich
Waterloo
Wembley Park
West Ham
West Hampstead
Willesden Green
Trains can reverse in either direction at North Greenwich
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Post by setttt on Jun 12, 2008 18:04:15 GMT
So can someone please tell me how a train can terminate at Green Park? Detrain at Green Park then empty to Charing Cross to reverse. |
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 12, 2008 18:06:02 GMT
Green Park terminators (southbound only) tip out all passengers then run empty to Charing Cross; reverse and head back out north, picking passengers back up at Green Park.
Err. (after posting) wot Seth said.
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Post by Tubeboy on Jun 12, 2008 18:20:20 GMT
Canary reversers are rare compared to NOG or Stratford, but they are not extremely rare, they tend to run late evening if there are severe gaps on the Westbound.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 12, 2008 23:07:34 GMT
Trains can also be terminated at West Ham, then run direct to the depot via a shunt back.
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Post by towerman on Jun 12, 2008 23:26:12 GMT
Or do a main line shunt outside SMD.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2008 5:44:40 GMT
So can someone please tell me how a train can terminate at Green Park? Thanks Uzair, 12  Have a look in the track maps, linked to in my signature! Green Park reversers are far from being extremely rare movements. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jun 13, 2008 8:26:47 GMT
Thank you for you replies. I dont know why I keep putting extremely rare for everything.
So if a train was to terminate at Finchley Road, does that mean it can only go from Stanmore into the SB platform and head back to Stanmore using the SB-NB crossover?
Thanks
Uzair
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Post by superteacher on Jun 13, 2008 9:12:59 GMT
Thank you for you replies. I dont know why I keep putting extremely rare for everything. So if a train was to terminate at Finchley Road, does that mean it can only go from Stanmore into the SB platform and head back to Stanmore using the SB-NB crossover? Thanks Uzair That's pretty much the case. |
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Post by superteacher on Jun 13, 2008 9:15:28 GMT
Interesting this discussion about how rare certain reversing points are. Green Park (Charing Cross) reversers are indeed not that rare. Something like Queensway on the Central is rare!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2008 9:35:50 GMT
Thank you for you replies. I dont know why I keep putting extremely rare for everything. So if a train was to terminate at Finchley Road, does that mean it can only go from Stanmore into the SB platform and head back to Stanmore using the SB-NB crossover? Thanks Uzair S/B Jub can either: 1. Reverse in S/B Jub pfm 3 to N/B Jub 2. Reverse in S/B Met pfm 4 to N/B Jub If they ever replace the N/B Met to N/B Jub crossover: 3. Detrain in S/B Met pfm 4 and reverse via Swiss Cottage crossover to N/B Met pfm 1, entrain and then cross to N/B Jub. 4. Detrain in either pfm 3 or 4 and shunt to N/B Met pfm 1, entrain and then cross to N/B Jub. N/B Jub can only detrain on pfm 2 and shunt to the N/B Met pfm 1 (Subject to the crossover mentioned above), S/B Jub pfm 3 or S/B Met pfm 4. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jun 13, 2008 10:03:40 GMT
Yeh good discussion here A reply to the comment above. There is no crossover at Swiss Cottage |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2008 10:57:33 GMT
Yeh good discussion here A reply to the comment above. There is no crossover at Swiss Cottage Yes there is - if you read the post carefully you will work out on which line the crossover is on  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2008 12:28:26 GMT
Yeh good discussion here A reply to the comment above. There is no crossover at Swiss Cottage Yes there is - if you read the post carefully you will work out on which line the crossover is on Well spotted stephenk, the Swiss Cottage referred to, is the disused Met station, accessible through a nondescript door in the Jub station. Indeed during the 1970's the then Bloo service was run through to Baker Street Met station to enable forward connections. This was while the step plate junction was connected to the newly constructed Jub line south to Charing Cross. |
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 13, 2008 18:24:41 GMT
Indeed during the 1970's the then Bloo service was run through to Baker Street Met station to enable forward connections. This was while the step plate junction was connected to the newly constructed Jub line south to Charing Cross. Oh, if I could only find that Timetable Notice for the three Sundays in 1977 when it happened! <shrug> Oh well, thrill of the chase and all that. |
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Post by superteacher on Jun 14, 2008 8:49:16 GMT
Thank you for you replies. I dont know why I keep putting extremely rare for everything. So if a train was to terminate at Finchley Road, does that mean it can only go from Stanmore into the SB platform and head back to Stanmore using the SB-NB crossover? Thanks Uzair S/B Jub can either: 1. Reverse in S/B Jub pfm 3 to N/B Jub 2. Reverse in S/B Met pfm 4 to N/B Jub If they ever replace the N/B Met to N/B Jub crossover: 3. Detrain in S/B Met pfm 4 and reverse via Swiss Cottage crossover to N/B Met pfm 1, entrain and then cross to N/B Jub. 4. Detrain in either pfm 3 or 4 and shunt to N/B Met pfm 1, entrain and then cross to N/B Jub. N/B Jub can only detrain on pfm 2 and shunt to the N/B Met pfm 1 (Subject to the crossover mentioned above), S/B Jub pfm 3 or S/B Met pfm 4. Are Jubilee drivers road trained to reverse at Swiss Cottage disused Met station? |
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Post by c5 on Jun 14, 2008 14:23:52 GMT
Nope!
It would be extremely rare to reverse a Met S-N at Fin Rd either, as would any inter-running/reversing Jub-Met-Jub using the other lines platforms!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2008 14:44:59 GMT
Nope! It would be extremely rare to reverse a Met S-N at Fin Rd either, as would any inter-running/reversing Jub-Met-Jub using the other lines platforms! It would be unlikely in this modern world but the original question was where would it be possible at Finchley Road to reverse a Jubilee. |
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Post by c5 on Jun 14, 2008 14:54:26 GMT
Nope! It would be extremely rare to reverse a Met S-N at Fin Rd either, as would any inter-running/reversing Jub-Met-Jub using the other lines platforms! It would be unlikely in this modern world but the original question was where would it be possible at Finchley Road to reverse a Jubilee. What I was also referring to was the Jubilee trains using the Met platforms to reverse. Which the Met would probably refuse. I mentioned the Met crossing the Jubilee as that involves all four roads. |
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Post by ruislip on Jun 14, 2008 21:27:17 GMT
When the Jubilee opened in 1979, I read in Captial Transport's history of the line that there were only West Hampstead reversers in the am peak. Why not the pm peak as well?
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