New Central line trains . . .

Not sure when the first delivery was, but they did not enter passenger service until April 1993, not March 1992 as someone mentioned earlier.

I remember them all in Ruislip Depot during the May 1993 open day. The first one I remember travelling on in passenger service was in the December of that year.

My first ride was on the second day of service - the first train was running off peak between Liverpool Street and White City as train 165. In effect, this was a special set number, and effectively took the place of train 52 (off peak). It was a few weeks before the trains started taking over normal running duties.

BL was my SCM.

Going back to the Electronic Destination Display on the front.
I was with my friends today at Notting Hill Gate and a Central Line train was going to Epping but on the destination diplay it looked like 'FPPING'
Uzair

I really think the 92TS either needs a very thoroughgoing refurb (not like their W&C counterparts) or replacing altogether. To my mind, these are the most horrible and uncomfortable stock on the system at the moment (with the refurbed C stock coming a close 2nd).

I'd guess because they are less used and not exposed to the elements. Also I doubt that the S stock will be worse than the C stock, what would be the point in replacing it?

I wouldn't be sad to see TS92 go. I rarely use the Central Line now and, for me, that line always meant a confortable ride on the old stock.

Strangely it always seemed to me that the 1962 stock was always in better condition than the 1959's on the Northern.

Anyway in my opinion, none of the post-1973 designs of tube stock have been particuarly inspiring. They feel plastic inside and the exterior paint jobs are awful and travelling in a 1962 stock through the winter snow was downright cosy.

I think the problems with the 1992 stock stem primarily from a poor build quality rather than from design issues. With exception of the state of the seats, the passenger saloon is actually well designed. Although it's less aesthetically pleasing, it works better in crowded conditions than the 1967 stock layout for example.

Sorry, I meant the W&C ones were as bad and the opportunity of a thoroughgoing refurb was missed - they're still as uncomfortable as before, although it could be argued that their short journey-times mean this is less of an issue than on their Central Line counterparts. I can only hope that - if LU decide to keep them 92 stocks rather than replace the lot - they should give them a total interior refit with new seats and everything. These units are uncomfortable to travel on and look grubby and dingy most of the time.

The refurbed C stock feel less comfortable to me than before the refurb. The seats seem similar to the 92 stock's except with a back that leans backwards a little. The cushion is still just flat - making them little more than benches, imo.